You can limit who can message you by age...somewhere in here.

You do look a LITTLE older than 20 in the photo showing here but not nearly my age. That would stop me from asking you for a date but I have lots of good friends in thier 20s and 30s that I love talking to and hanging out with in the outside world. Young people generally have not grown skeptical and stodgy...yet, and I like that.

One of my best buddies is 24 (a friend of mines GRANDDaughter..lol) and she does things like invite me to go out with her and her girlfriends. I usually decline because sure as shootin', some young drunken idiotic 20ish kid wants to bow up when they don't like him and it usually goes to some "old fart" remark that just begs my response. I hate jail so we hang at the house usually.

Go easy on us old timers. No matter what a persons IQ, the older you get, the more you know. And you just may find an interesting conversation or perspective talking to one.

Actually, this thread is based on vapor and some nutcase conspiracy theory. Canadians, Scandinavians, Japanese and people in 10 other countries have gotten this. Because nobody has died except in Mexico and one 2 year old kid here who JUST left Mexico AFTER getting sick there isn't even noteworthy. That is, unless you decide that somehow, some evil madman has devised a way to INFECT everyone but only KILL Mexicans. It's just stupid.
This thing started in rural Mexico where there is virtually no health care and no disease control like we take for granted here.

I probably should check the news this morning to see if the proof (someone non-Mexican dying) is out there yet. According to the CDC, it won't be long.

Why not??? Because it offends liberals? Our country was FOUNDED on religious values. And theres the freedom of speech and expression thing that certainly does not preclude Christians from expressing thier beliefs.

Before you ACLU nuts even start:
The seperation of church & state was clearly intended to keep churches from running the government, like the Church of England did, not to prevent people from expressing thier religious values, going to church, praying in school, etc.

YOu guys need to move to Somalia or somewhere that religion has no part to see what happens when you let people do whatever they want to do with no laws founded on religious values. I predict you get your freakin head chopped off with a a machete in about 2.2 seconds.

I have not problems with atheists, agnostics, Christians or satanists as long as it doesn't directly affect me. A state putting Jesus on a Christians plate? Who cares? As long as they don't force me to put it on mine, wheres the problem?

I believe that liberals and people like the ACLU want to strip the entire country of not only their own morals and values but outlaw anyone else having them or expressing thier beliefs. If a person needs a role model in order to treat others well...so what? If it's Jesus or Gandhi.

And hey, if I wanna see some fat chicks tits I can just look right here. And I don't. Why not put naked little girls on there if we want freedom to do anything EXCEPT express a little faith for others to see?

Liberals want to be able to do anything THEY want but restrict others from doing what they want. Leave Christians alone. This country was founded on Christian values.

Ummm...the lack of adequate health care and sanitation in Mexico.

I don't tire of repeating myself but will stop. Thank you for your opinion. Have a nice day.

Nah..Dammit! That just doesn't feel right!

How about we meet halfway between Colorado and Louisiana and fight it out???

I am outta here. Have a great day everyone...that survives this deadly conspiracy.

(¡Los diablos americanos han matado a mi familia!)

Darn, you're nice. (But thats still a funny hat!)

I know this. My ex was Cajun and concocted all manner of crap that normal folk won't eat. I've already told this in a thread somewhere but I walked in my house one day and said "What the f**k is that smell? You boiling dirty socks or something!?". Yes, it was a mistake and I learned why most men fear cajun women. (I still love em).

Cajun tripe is cow stomach lining, not pig. That doesnt make it any more desirable or delectable to me though. I'll take a ribeye and some baked potatos.

Bleccchhh!! @ Menudo..the band or the food! I'll take the swine flu instead!! Betcha I live!! (I'm white as snow!!)

In the US, if you have an illness, you go to any hospital and you will get treated. Maybe not in 5 minutes, but you WILL get care.

Send them all to Mexico, Guatemala, ElSalvador, almost ANYWHERE in Africa or any other place where they can't get adequate care and the mortality rate will increase. Keep watching and you'll see that in countries where this spreads to, and it will, the poorest and people without doctors, anti-viral drugs, etc. will start dying in droves. Betcha!!!

Oh! Well THAT makes him a reliable source!!! Funny I havn't heard of him. One internet nutcase/conspiracy theorist is as good as the next to me.

I still didn't see where you saw the numbers on ALL/ONLY the Mexican deaths outside of the backward country of Mexico..the thing this whole thing is based on. I am still counting....ONE! And he obviously got sick IN Mexico and his folks jumped the fence to get him some free health care in Houston. Wheres the rest?

Heres some history from when most people had the same level of health care as they do in Mexico now.

The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as "Spanish Flu" or "La Grippe" the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster.

The influenza pandemic circled the globe. Most of humanity felt the effects of this strain of the influenza virus. It spread following the path of its human carriers, along trade routes and shipping lines. Outbreaks swept through North America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Brazil and the South Pacific (Taubenberger). In India the mortality rate was extremely high at around 50 deaths from influenza per 1,000 people (Brown). The Great War, with its mass movements of men in armies and aboard ships, probably aided in its rapid diffusion and attack.

AND HERES THE CONSPIRACY THEORY FROM THEN:

The origins of the deadly flu disease were unknown but widely speculated upon. Some of the allies thought of the epidemic as a biological warfare tool of the Germans. Many thought it was a result of the trench warfare, the use of mustard gases and the generated "smoke and fumes" of the war.

FLU CAN KILL PEOPLE WITHOUT ADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE..AND IT WILL.

As for the Anthrax, I do believe that some elements of our governmnt (intelligence agencies) were behind the "attacks" on a selected few, in order to increase the budget, thier power, etc. It was too clean and un-tracable for someone not privy to covert ops, police procedures and capabilities to pull off. I'm not saying that our government is incapable of doing REALLY bad things. They are, but I draw the line at believing anyone with any scientific background, especially in virology, would be so stupid as to not realize that viri readily mutate and could easily infect them too. Besides, most in government and indusry (the people that really make bad things happen, and COULD pull off such an operation) depend on Mexicans. I can't see the powerful shooting themselves in the foot.

As for "Mexicans" dying...the vast majority of people in Mexico, except in resort cities, are Mexicans. It is not the melting pot that the U.S. is. Do a google map of hospitals and clinics in the interior of Mexico and you will find that..THERE AREN'T MANY!! And the vast majority of Mexicans, especially farmers and people in rural areas have never had ANY health care, much less preventative.

If you get the flu here, are very young or very old, are weak, have a bad diet, have no health care, you can easily die. That is the rule, not the exception in Mexico. It boils down to poor people with minimal health care and poor diets dying. I'm done. Unless you talk again. lol

Thank you. I agree with the first sentence. Actually the guy is some Mexican convict writing for a prison newspaper. It's ridiculous.

Thats exactly the opposite of what the truth is in Mexico. We hear how many DIED but not how many were infected. Mexico is a backward country with nearly no health care or sanitation.

Im curious as to where you "see" all these Mexicans dying of this outside of Mexico, cause I have not seen it anywhere..and I've sure been looking for it. One Mexican kid who is frail and two years old who JUST left Mexico, where he was apparently infected. Where else???

Oh yeah...definately a white mans conspiracy to eliminate Mexicans, and our fruit pickers. Having lived in Phoenix and Houston, areas inundated by illegals and CRIMINALS, I think we should put up that fence and electrify it with fatal voltages. Much more effectve and efficient than some random pig virii.

What you posted is the fact that viral studies and genetic manipulation is done...NOT that our goverment or some group has purposly (or inadvertantly) released it on a population. I call BS.

Where exactly did you hear that ONLY Mexicans have died from this? Oh yeah, the convict!!!

Only ONE person in the US has died from it, a 2 year old boy. He was Mexican but he CAME from Mexico. "Health officials in Texas said the child had traveled with his family from Mexico, to Brownsville on April 4 and was brought to Houston >>>after becoming ill<<<. He died Monday night". Naturally, in Mexico, statistically speaking, it will likely be Mexicans affected. duh!

Germany became the latest country to report swine flu infections. It reported four cases on Wednesday. (Not many Mexicans in Germany)

New Zealand's total rose to 14. (Not many Mexicans in NZ)

Britain had earlier reported five cases, Spain four. There were 13 cases in Canada, two in Israel and one in Austria.

Hw many Mexican Jews do you know???

The deaths in Mexico were OBVIOUSLY due to the fact that this is where it originated and there is virtually no health care or sanitation in most of the country. And by the time Mexican authorities saw a problem, it was epidemic.

When only Mexicans that have NOT been to Mexico start kicking off in all these other countries, I will give your conspiracy theory some credit. Until then..its total BS. Some crap written by a Mexican prisoner in some US penitentiary.

While a race specific virus could be created, and probably already has, I find it improbable that one was deliberately introduced into a population. There are too many variables in DNA to ensure that it would only affect one race, or even one species.

That elitists think of the population that works as sheep is not a new, or wrong idea,in my opinion. But they also have to realize that they themselves would be reduced to the same level if we were not here.

I would not be surprised if the Chinese government or Muslim extremists tried something like that on a limited population...perhaps islanders, but cannot believe that OUR government, no matter how corrupt they are, would be so arrogant or stupid as to put forth a virus to infect a selected population. Especially when they won't even put up a wall to keep the illegals out and insist on giving them free health care, food stamps, etc.

We only hear how many people died in Mexico, not how many were exposed. Mexico is an agricultural country with a much larger rural layout than the US. But the food generated by these rural folk are sold in markets in cities for the most part, where people gather en-masse. There is minimal inspection. They also lag in sanitation, health care and disease control. I have not heard that Latinos were the ones affected here in the US anyway.

I tend to steer away from a conspiracy theory and more towards natural selection. If you're filthy, have open sewers, don't wash your hands from the point of butchering a pig to shaking hands with the mayor, don't have a doctor or medication, then you're probably going to get sick.

I read it. Bolton was and is an idiot. As are most politicians, whose primary interest is power, and secondarily, money, which for them is just a means to that end..power.

If we are in a declared war, combatants on the battlefield should be killed or captured. If captured, in war, they are detained in prisoner of war camps >>>for the duration<<<. Because the extremist muslims HAVE declared war on the US and defined the battlefields themselves and the duration as never-ending, they're in it for the long haul when they CHOOSE to fight. In a declared war, by international law, if a combatant is not in uniform, he is a spy and subject to execution in the field. Again, they made thier beds....

I'm not smart enough to define a solution to international laws concerning who has the right to try whom. It is a tough question. But if each country prosecuted thier own citizens accused of violating international laws..and actually DID it, that would solve the issue. But just like the piracy thing right now, Africans are not going to prosecute Africans on the behalf of the U.S. or any other government. Muslims certainly aren't going to prosecute Muslims, regardless of nationality, when they are percieved as fighting a Jihad. So it's up to us to get any justice that we feel is needed.

This, in my opinion, is just further confirmation that we need to be OUT OF THE UN and taking care of our own business.

I think **** Cheney and George Bush should face trials for manipulating the truth and putting Americans in a war for Halliburton, Mr. Cheneys company, who just so happens to have gotten the worlds largest no-bid contract for work in Iraq. I also believe that they should be brought to justice for the financial crisis that George Bush directly created by removing SEC regulations and enforcements so his Wall Street buddies could play fast and loose with our, our childrens and our grandchildrens futures. But IN OUR COUNTRY and BY OUR COURTS.

In my opinion, the root cause of the financial meltdown was Bill Clinton and the Community Reivestment act that basically (exactly) forced lending institutions to sell homes to people who HAD NO MONEY OR JOBS...and made it against the law to check thier incomes or the truth of thier statements!! When millions people "bought" homes under this act, the price of housing was artificfially inflated because of the "demand". Thats why my house, which I bought for 42 grand is now "worth" over 100.

If you think of it, our problem is simple. Corruption in government...plain and simple. 100 years ago, every single member of Congress would have been executed for treason for tearing this country down as it has.

Our "reputation" around the world is that we are softies. That we will negotiate, that we will not fight a decisive battle, that we will rebuild what we tear down..better than it ever was. To our enemies, we are carrying the biggest stick of all...but are afraid to use it. We cow down to this "World Court" and the UN whose primary objective now is to bring us down. To "put us in our place".
If you are fat and rich from our own work or not, and have had starving neighbors forever, it's not wise to let them decide what our fate should be. Kinda stupid actually.

You need some lessons on how Arabs operate and THINK. To negotiate is to admit defeat. Period. To talk when there is a fight to die for makes you a coward. The world does not think as we do. The world does not operate as we think it should...by diplomacy and mutual cooperation, especially the Arab world. They respect strength and the will to kill and die for a cause. We'll be in Iraq and Afghanistan forever at this rate...and watch...Pakistan when the Taliban gets thier hands on the tactical nukes there. Hopefully, we'll go in there and take them ut before that happens. And it will if we don't.

If you think any of those (credibility, reliability, trust, assurance) things actually won a war, you need to read un-revised history. Thats all great for us...here n the US as citizens. But it just doesn't work in the global context. What wars have we WON in your time...and how? The 1st Iraq war...by going in there and wasting everyone that stood in our way. Now, what wars can you say that we have lost..and why. Somalia, Vietnam, Afghanistan, the last Iraq war? We have not won them. The first two we gave up on because it would have required what won Iraq 1. And make no mistake..we ARE at war with Extremist Muslims..and we ARE losing with this Mr Nice Guy strategy. Tell me where Im factually wrong.