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Sat 01/03/15 12:05 PM

education is prime, education about how our resources (money)work and grow, about how to take care of ourselves (healthwise), about the importance of the family, the community, and the long term effects of our choices instead of the immediate gratification we have become addicted to,,,,

overpopulation is more subject to geography and resources

in the US we have more than enough of the resources(money) to be worried about overpopulation HERE, however the way our resources are doled out is another matter

birth rates are actually declining here over the last decades, but opportunities have declined and communities have become more individual oriented,,,,


I worry more about human detachment from each other than I do overpopulation,,,but ,, I'm just one person

there are many opinions on the topic of overpopulation, here is an interesting one out of millions

http://pop.org/content/debunking-myth-overpopulation


Education, what education? But more importantly, just how is money a resource or actually, what is money? Is it something live that can work? What does it do? And if it grows, how big does it get? Can I plant some in my garden or does it need a pen? What do you feed it? But I do like how you include the collective, wouldn't want any selfishness.

I would love to hear your version of how geography and/or resources have anything to do with overpopulation. Is this another little quaint statement with no thought into the actual meaning? What is the cause? Which is the effect? Are they related?

Ah, back to money, again just how is that a resource? Just how are the resources doled out?

Oh no, are there anti-collectivist at work here? Where are they? Are they surrounding the welfare offices?

But I am most impressed by your UN sourced citation. Agenda 21 anyone?

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Sat 01/03/15 11:27 AM


I don't want people to have children ...just know at some point their may not be anyone to help each other but your own... an will be worse then ever if some do not get this education on how our world is going to suffer way more then now ...if you can believe that ... and education should start more for growing minds ...


huh And this was written by someone's parent. noway


Too bad other parents didn't read it.

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Sat 01/03/15 11:26 AM

after I watched this program about world population ... how in countries it is dealt with ... some do have a limit of children you can have ... apposed to others where they feel have as many as possible and not think about what it does to the children ...
some starve and die or get deadly diseases ...
and mainly is the girls and women ...

because so many girls and women become and do the most work in the families and most do with out food and education to give their children to try help them survive ... some understand this over population but afraid to ask for birth control becouse of their husbend would beat and kill them in some cases ...not all ... and most that have abortions sometimes becouse of rape...die and loose their own lives becouse of unsanitary and unhealthy conditions ...

but this is just a part of the over population in the world ...
and what this means is more places should have education for women and girls ... and some being able to choose when to have a child ... an given birth control ... their is no blame all of the world contributes to this ... with as many children they have ... but what some do not understand is how poor the country can become

becouse of...and more then less suffer becouse of ...
and this is not getting any better some are trying to help try and educate those but as they say 1 at a time ... watch ... while others die ... we need more then 1 to survive to educate others of this suffering ...

this is the same why the USA has less becouse to many go with out education and do not understand the larger picture is the world ... which this is happening to also ... The USA is and has been helping other countries for a long time ...

but how do others expect if our country needs help... how are we able to give to other countries when their population have gotten out of control like the USA ... means the future need to have education grow not the population ... all around the world for everyone who are able ... do not take this wrong it is not that


I don't want people to have children ...just know at some point their may not be anyone to help each other but your own... an will be worse then ever if some do not get this education on how our world is going to suffer way more then now ...if you can believe that ... and education should start more while growing in younger minds ...


Don't know what the problem is, this matter is self educating and self solving. What you seem to have a problem with is the solution in action, the problem resolving itself. Nature always rules in the end.

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Fri 01/02/15 04:00 PM





That particular newspaper is my local daily paper. I'm going to have to send a letter to the editor and mention this error. laugh


What error, a comprehension problem. I believe they would laugh and hang up.

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Fri 01/02/15 03:58 PM



Wedding guest: Move due to Obama golf game 'not a negative thing'

Heimel, her groom, Ed Mallue Jr., and the wedding party found an "equally beautiful" spot at the Kaneohe Klipper Golf Course at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, according to Dryer. Not only was there an ocean view as they had envisioned, they could see some golfers on the course.

Adding to the unforgettable experience was an unexpected phone call from Obama, who phoned the couple to apologize for the mix-up.

Dryer said the President told Mallue, also an Army captain, "If I had skipped the 16th hole, I would have had a better score."

"He didn't know about it," Dryer said of Obama.

Weeks before their wedding, Heimel and Mallue had invited the President to attend, knowing he and his family would be making their annual trip to Hawaii.


The newlyweds got what they wanted after all. If they aren't complaining about President Obama, then why should anyone else complain?


They aren't complaining because they know they would get some crap duty in the South Pole. Officer's of the military who value their career know better then to speak out against the Fuhrer.

If the Fuhrer had any class, he would have attended. What a POS.


or maybe they aren't complaining because they aren't crybabies and they had fair WARNING and KNOWLEDGE ahead of time that it might happen , complete with quite a beautiful back up plan,,,lol




Twist and spin, twist and spin, will keep going till the end. Don't really know, but that doesn't matter, just deny the truth with a lot of little patter.

There is no maybe, they are military and the commander in chief is a psychopath. It is either shut up and endure or get a free vacation in Kansas before that start a new career at McDonald's.

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Fri 01/02/15 03:52 PM




At least if you gonna use (inappropriate) titles, get the spelling right ..
And why you ppl need to knock Obama and call him by a title that is related to an inhuman monster is beyond me.
The man called the couple to apologize, made their day! Some would say it's ridiculous that the so called most powerful man in the world would have to apologize for something he prolly didn't even have knowledge of.


I agree with this. It's easy to criticize from a distance but I bet he had no clue that he was intruding on their big day. I also bet he was mortified when he found out about it, as anyone would be.
Give the guy a break.


Really, like Odumbo gave a good crap because if he had, he would have changed his plans but did he, absolutely not. Much the same as other event and vacations where people are inconvenienced so the "royal" family can have their fun, no matter how many others get ruined.

But I will agree that it is so easy to criticize from afar on matters of which one has no clue but many choose to do so anyway.

My point was that he was elected to do the hardest job in the world. He had the balls to stand up and be counted despite his colour (and I mean that most respectfully) and he has achieved more in his life time than most of us can only dream of.
So he deserves a break IMHO


First off, he wasn't elected, he was selected. The election part is the delusion of the masses that there vote actually meant something when in reality it didn't. A choice of the lesser of two evils is actually no choice at all.

Second, it is not the hardest job in the world, it is but made to seem that way. But for a psychopathic being, the only hard part is what to attack next and that has been a real problem with Odumbo, the attacks both foreign and domestic.

That little jerk has no balls whatsoever, pure coward. The balls in the family belong to that slimebag spouse of his.

As to his color, that man is one of the blackest ever in the White House and I'm not referring to skin color either, and I mean that with total disrespect.

I would also question your ability to dream if Odumbo is your benchmark. Achieve, the only barrier he has broken in achievement is to prove the Peter principle was extremely pessimistic, one can rise well above one's capabilities and that while he has been the most outstanding puppet to date, he has failed miserably to fulfill the desires of his masters, thankfully.

But I will agree, he does need to be broken, tried and hanged with Hilary at his side once again. Unfortunately, he pardoned Georgie and Dickie so I guess they just get to watch.

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Fri 01/02/15 03:15 PM




Media, I would question the one that didn't read what little was available in the post. Seems more a question of comprehension.

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Fri 01/02/15 03:13 PM

Too bad there wasn't a noose around his neck when he fell.pitchfork

I know, it's evilwaving


What do you have against good rope?

Another thought just came to mind, what about a hemp rope, would seems appropriate somehow?

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Fri 01/02/15 03:11 PM







Iraq war officially recognized as a fraud and warcrime

OK.... it's offered by PMSNBC and Rancid Madcow....uh...you know, Obozos cheerleaders.

One commenter even states: "Yet she has given a pass to her beloved Obombo and covers for him as he has continued Bush's war crimes at even expanded on them...Mentally deluded freak!"

Not finding ANY of the evidence that we were told took us to war with Iraq, and cost us the lives of many of our children, blood, and treasure (over $3 Trillion.... my guess is much, much more) not to mention the toll to Iraq and its citizens.... look at the state it's in today!

And remember the $2 Trillion found to be missing just days before 9/11 Rumsfeld told us about? Nothing more ever came of that. Funny how that works...

All in all a good video tho...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJGIEU38S1w#t=1310

Funny how that Money was "mis-laid " by the Clinton-Admin!:laughing:

another 9/11-Myth!

actually concerns Money from Fiscal Year 1999!:laughing:


Seems rather odd that the part of the Pentagon attacked was the "accounting" wing working on the missing money, the plane had to make an impossible turn to hit it when Rumsfeld's office was on a direct approach, and the side struck had just undergone re-inforcement upgrades as well. Not to mention that the floors of the tower struck were also record storage, attorney, and accounting floors as well.

Rather strange coincidence don't you think?

But saying so only makes me a CTer bigsmile

all Bunko!:laughing:

Guess he must have covered up for Clinton,since it was impossible that even that kind of Money was around,just seven months into his Gig!!rofl

http://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-the-pentagon-cannot-track-2-3-trillion-in-transactions.165/


So we go to another forum that uses a government dodge as the sole entry of claiming somehow to debunk something. And even that starts out by quoting some denier site.

And if you had bothered to actually read the source, the presenters gets questioned and keeps running in circles about a source that ill backs his accusations.


and you accuse others of Solipsism!laugh

There is an objective reality that is whether you believe in it or not. The irrationalists try to twist the natural world into their own social construct so they will use phrases like, "well, that's your opinion" when you are in fact stating an objective fact. Of course they are those people who create for themselves a little illusion of the world in their head. They will have a complex ideology and a dogmatic belief in it to make it appear real. They will scream and shout and be angry with anyone who threatens their view and they will resort to tactics like censorship and slander to silence those who speak an objective truth. Often large groups of such people will come together in a communal delusion.

seems you haven't figured that out yet,regardless of your repeated protestations,since you constantly insist that your "Reality" is the only one!


That I find humorous, perhaps a definition would be in order: Solipsism: The ideology that only one's own mind is sure to exist. Solipsists contend that knowledge of anything outside of one's own mind is unsure, hence there is no such thing as objective truth, and nothing about the external world and it's workings can actually be known.

So by that definition, where are your objective facts? Don't seem to have seen any, just conjecture, so you would be more than correct in claiming that title, actually something I can agree with.

And those large groups that come together are your proclaimed democracy, much like the one in Switzerland that removed the rights of Muslims to construct minarets, a form of religious restrictions.

Again, I must remind you, reality is formed by reason, not by emotion. And that isn't my dictate but the dictate of natural law. As I am not a god, I only follow natural law, not make it. It is the solipsist that have a perception they are god. Solipsist are mentally ill.

But you forgot moral relativism, where the presence of truth and morality in the lives of the people of any given society is inversely proportional to the presence of tyranny and slavery in that society. True freedom can never exist in a society that embraces "Moral Relativism" (the idea that there is no inherent and objective difference between right and wrong, so humanity may arbitrarily "create" or "decide" right and wrong for themselves).

When you deny objective reality, that process based on reason and logic, you end up in the world of solipsism. When reality is based on emotional factors, then it can never be objective, just a manifestation of what one wants to be reality, a perception based on those emotions.

But I do so enjoy at which string elicits what reactions. It is so entertaining.

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Fri 01/02/15 02:38 PM



Funny how that Money was "mis-laid " by the Clinton-Admin!:laughing:

another 9/11-Myth!

actually concerns Money from Fiscal Year 1999!:laughing:


Well I see another of your emotional outburst about another subject you know squat about.

Myth, yeah sort of like all that missing money in Swiss banks stolen from the Jews by Hitler.

No it was not about money from Fiscal year 1999, it was about a defense audit that occurred in fiscal 1999. The unaccounted funds would stretch back many years, say to 1993, maybe even before. But then why would you be concerned with facts, just declare it a myth.

Coincidence it was 9/10 on the announcement, not really as there was something else about to happen on 9/11 from a financial perspective that sort of got destroyed at the world trade center and the pentagon.

Amazing how $240 billion in bonds got cleared during Securities Exchange Act Section 12(k)"emergency powers".

Seems like a lot of confusion helped a lot of matters just get cleared up. And imagine those planes and that missile knowing exactly where to strike.

It is kind of hard to believe anything from a source that somehow believes any form of democracy is somehow deemed a republic, it isn't and it can't. But to go beyond the democracy and extoll the benefits of socialist benefits and declare that a means employed by a republic is pure diseased psyche.

This country has many ills and diseases of its own without help from others that suffer the same diseases.

So,why bring it in connection with 9/11 then?
Since it wasn't the Bush-Admin who had lost the Funds,if they were even lost!:laughing:


Sorry, but if you do not understand at this point, never going to be, is it?

And it is yourself that is claiming they were lost, not mine. They were never lost but few know just where they are and even less that actually care to find out.


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Fri 01/02/15 01:56 PM



Funny how that Money was "mis-laid " by the Clinton-Admin!:laughing:

another 9/11-Myth!

actually concerns Money from Fiscal Year 1999!:laughing:


Well I see another of your emotional outburst about another subject you know squat about.

Myth, yeah sort of like all that missing money in Swiss banks stolen from the Jews by Hitler.

No it was not about money from Fiscal year 1999, it was about a defense audit that occurred in fiscal 1999. The unaccounted funds would stretch back many years, say to 1993, maybe even before. But then why would you be concerned with facts, just declare it a myth.

Coincidence it was 9/10 on the announcement, not really as there was something else about to happen on 9/11 from a financial perspective that sort of got destroyed at the world trade center and the pentagon.

Amazing how $240 billion in bonds got cleared during Securities Exchange Act Section 12(k)"emergency powers".

Seems like a lot of confusion helped a lot of matters just get cleared up. And imagine those planes and that missile knowing exactly where to strike.

It is kind of hard to believe anything from a source that somehow believes any form of democracy is somehow deemed a republic, it isn't and it can't. But to go beyond the democracy and extoll the benefits of socialist benefits and declare that a means employed by a republic is pure diseased psyche.

This country has many ills and diseases of its own without help from others that suffer the same diseases.

seems you're the one who knows Squat about,as usual!
Thinking doesn't seem to be your strong Point,or else you'd see the impossibility of the whole thing!
Seems lately that all you can do is attacking Members personally when you can't disprove their Point!
Sad!slaphead whoa


Really, so if I don't know squat, then why is it you that seems to post innuendo and somehow thinks that disapproves a point. Like for example that little forum site that somehow disapproves a theory, not likely.

And as to thinking, I consider that along side the other information provided and come up with the same conclusion, just another emotional outburst with no real conclusion.

But I do like how you so capability refuted my statement. But then again, emotions allow thinking without reverting to reason, so by that definition, thinking would definitely not be my strong point but you are welcome to it.

"[The aspiring dictator]knows that he can succeed only with a populace conditioned to seek neither evidence nor argument, a populace which, having shrugged aside the demands of logic, will agree with, and then endure, anything. Hence the spectacle of statists, of every variety and throughout history, both before and during their period in power, systematically attacking the mind. In some terms, these men have grasped that their political goals cannot be achieved until the proper epistemology base is established." - Leonard Peikoff

But what is worse, the masses that are always willing to fall prey to such plunder. And to this I expect a rant in return.

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Fri 01/02/15 01:33 PM



When you clicked on the link to this thread, you crossed over into ...




I would propose you where there long before clicking on this thread.


Is that close to the Northern Hebei Province in China?what


More like the northern providence between the ears.

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Fri 01/02/15 01:32 PM





Iraq war officially recognized as a fraud and warcrime

OK.... it's offered by PMSNBC and Rancid Madcow....uh...you know, Obozos cheerleaders.

One commenter even states: "Yet she has given a pass to her beloved Obombo and covers for him as he has continued Bush's war crimes at even expanded on them...Mentally deluded freak!"

Not finding ANY of the evidence that we were told took us to war with Iraq, and cost us the lives of many of our children, blood, and treasure (over $3 Trillion.... my guess is much, much more) not to mention the toll to Iraq and its citizens.... look at the state it's in today!

And remember the $2 Trillion found to be missing just days before 9/11 Rumsfeld told us about? Nothing more ever came of that. Funny how that works...

All in all a good video tho...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJGIEU38S1w#t=1310

Funny how that Money was "mis-laid " by the Clinton-Admin!:laughing:

another 9/11-Myth!

actually concerns Money from Fiscal Year 1999!:laughing:


Seems rather odd that the part of the Pentagon attacked was the "accounting" wing working on the missing money, the plane had to make an impossible turn to hit it when Rumsfeld's office was on a direct approach, and the side struck had just undergone re-inforcement upgrades as well. Not to mention that the floors of the tower struck were also record storage, attorney, and accounting floors as well.

Rather strange coincidence don't you think?

But saying so only makes me a CTer bigsmile

all Bunko!:laughing:

Guess he must have covered up for Clinton,since it was impossible that even that kind of Money was around,just seven months into his Gig!!rofl

http://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-the-pentagon-cannot-track-2-3-trillion-in-transactions.165/


So we go to another forum that uses a government dodge as the sole entry of claiming somehow to debunk something. And even that starts out by quoting some denier site.

And if you had bothered to actually read the source, the presenters gets questioned and keeps running in circles about a source that ill backs his accusations.

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Fri 01/02/15 01:10 PM




Iraq war officially recognized as a fraud and warcrime

OK.... it's offered by PMSNBC and Rancid Madcow....uh...you know, Obozos cheerleaders.

One commenter even states: "Yet she has given a pass to her beloved Obombo and covers for him as he has continued Bush's war crimes at even expanded on them...Mentally deluded freak!"

Not finding ANY of the evidence that we were told took us to war with Iraq, and cost us the lives of many of our children, blood, and treasure (over $3 Trillion.... my guess is much, much more) not to mention the toll to Iraq and its citizens.... look at the state it's in today!

And remember the $2 Trillion found to be missing just days before 9/11 Rumsfeld told us about? Nothing more ever came of that. Funny how that works...

All in all a good video tho...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJGIEU38S1w#t=1310

Funny how that Money was "mis-laid " by the Clinton-Admin!:laughing:

another 9/11-Myth!

actually concerns Money from Fiscal Year 1999!:laughing:


Seems rather odd that the part of the Pentagon attacked was the "accounting" wing working on the missing money, the plane had to make an impossible turn to hit it when Rumsfeld's office was on a direct approach, and the side struck had just undergone re-inforcement upgrades as well. Not to mention that the floors of the tower struck were also record storage, attorney, and accounting floors as well.

Rather strange coincidence don't you think?

But saying so only makes me a CTer bigsmile


Actually not the missing money as it wasn't missing just spent in that black hole column know as black ops and other illegal schemes.

However, the pentagon part had to do with Black Eagle Trust and some $240 billion in bonds that were coming due. The problem was that ownership had to be declared, not a nice scenario. The investigation into those bonds were in that pentagon office along with a trading house at World Trade Center, coincidentally on the same floor as one of the planes hit. Now let's not mention all those records that just happened to be stored in building 7 that for some reason just exploded.

No, that doesn't make you a Conspiracy Theorist, just a prudent man that has questions about coincidences that have no factual answers. Of course the idiots will just label it CTism so as not to have to think.

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Fri 01/02/15 01:01 PM

When I was 10 years old. I had some friends hitting 22 bullets with a hammer. I took off knowing that it was not right at all. Later on that evening the older bro. Hit a bullet that shot his baby bro. in the belly.
Two things about guns you need to know. Keep out of reach of babies an fools.


Not really, you should train the babies and stay away from fools.

I've been around guns my whole life. As a youngster my dad taught me guns where not toys, therefore we had no need to touch.

Today, guns are taboo and not to be talked about in polite company. They have long ceased to be a way of life, therefore what we have are a bunch of idiots that believe they are a toy.

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Fri 01/02/15 12:23 PM

Funny how that Money was "mis-laid " by the Clinton-Admin!:laughing:

another 9/11-Myth!

actually concerns Money from Fiscal Year 1999!:laughing:


Well I see another of your emotional outburst about another subject you know squat about.

Myth, yeah sort of like all that missing money in Swiss banks stolen from the Jews by Hitler.

No it was not about money from Fiscal year 1999, it was about a defense audit that occurred in fiscal 1999. The unaccounted funds would stretch back many years, say to 1993, maybe even before. But then why would you be concerned with facts, just declare it a myth.

Coincidence it was 9/10 on the announcement, not really as there was something else about to happen on 9/11 from a financial perspective that sort of got destroyed at the world trade center and the pentagon.

Amazing how $240 billion in bonds got cleared during Securities Exchange Act Section 12(k)"emergency powers".

Seems like a lot of confusion helped a lot of matters just get cleared up. And imagine those planes and that missile knowing exactly where to strike.

It is kind of hard to believe anything from a source that somehow believes any form of democracy is somehow deemed a republic, it isn't and it can't. But to go beyond the democracy and extoll the benefits of socialist benefits and declare that a means employed by a republic is pure diseased psyche.

This country has many ills and diseases of its own without help from others that suffer the same diseases.

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Fri 01/02/15 11:42 AM

How can you accidentally shoot your beloved wife in yall bedroom.
Fishy!


About the same way as a 2 year old shoots his mother in WalMart?

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Fri 01/02/15 11:36 AM
Edited by alnewman on Fri 01/02/15 11:39 AM

Harry Reid Breaks Ribs, Bones In His Face While Exercising At Home

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) broke "a number of ribs and bones in his face" after an accident that occurred while he was exercising at home, his office said in a statement Friday.

Reid, who is expected to make a full recovery, was taken to St. Rose Dominican Hospital in Nevada and later transferred to another medical center and "admitted overnight as a precaution." Reid is expected to return to Washington this weekend and resume work on Tuesday.

Read the entire statement below:

On Thursday, Senator Reid received treatment at University Medical Center in Las Vegas for injuries sustained in an accident he suffered while exercising at home in Henderson.

A piece of equipment Senator Reid was using to exercise broke, causing him to fall and break a number of ribs and bones in his face.

Senator Reid will return to Washington this weekend and be in the office Tuesday as the Senate prepares to reconvene. His doctors expect a full recovery.

Senator Reid was first brought to St. Rose Dominican Hospital in Henderson by his security detail. He was then transferred to UMC for further testing, where he was admitted overnight as a precaution.

This is developing... Check back for more...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/02/harry-reid-injured_n_6406716.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592




Too bad about the recovery but maybe this was just practice for the justice so well deserved, maybe next time.

Hey, did anyone check to see if Boehner broke his nose?

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Fri 01/02/15 11:32 AM

Knowing all this, would you want to be on the same board, have a political fundraiser thrown for you in his home, let him appoint you to another board of directors, shake his hand or even give him the time of day?



it wasn't merely a board, it was a HUGE network , working on initiatives to improve education,, one in which Many esteemed people and local parents and teachers and academics wanting the community to be improved were deeply involved

I would consider it an honor for a friend like Leff ( who actually recommended him, not Ayers, who didn't know him), who had been director of a presidential library and president of other organizations promoting progress in the community and civil rights attorney,,, to pick me for the job

I wouldn't turn it down because of what ONE involved person did more than twenty years before

I would shake his hands, if I were first meeting him and had none of the background assumed here to be known

and if I were up and coming in politics and meeting people in the community of which he was one,,,


and , I would also give him the time of day,, Im strange that way, I tend to give all types of people with all types of screwed up ideas of justice,, at least that

until they give me reason to believe they are going to actually be a waste of it,,,,


A response so well explained by a view established by the works of William James, pragmatism; "Truth independent, truth that we find merely; truth no longer malleable to human need" -this says James is what the pragmatist dispenses with. "The true, to put it very briefly, is only the expedient in the way of our thinking, just as 'the right' is only the expedient in the way of our behaving."

A view bought on by the well established Kantian view that facts "in themselves" are unknowable and the voluntarist view that action has primacy over thought. This led to the infamous words of Goebbels, "Important is not what is right but what wins."

The result of such an attitude: pragmatism leads to relativism as can be clearly seen in those statements.

"An idea, the pragmatist holds, must be judged as true or false according to its utility in a particular situation. What works today in one situation need not work tomorrow, in another. Thus truth is mutable. There are no 'rigid' principles, not in any field. There are no absolutes." - Leonard Peikoff

But of course, why would one need absolutes when twist and spin seem to be much more functional. And why would one doubt what you have written, of course, you were there documenting the whole thing but have just been too busy on forums to publish those works.

But then without the pragmatism and here in reality, the truth be known, just another emotional output to try and establish that which is wished to be true, a perception not based in reality.

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Thu 01/01/15 09:24 PM


msharmony, I forgot to tell you that some of the people working in Monty Python's Argument Clinic also work in Monty Python's Abuse Clinic. So, sometimes you will get two for the price of one.



I do love a discount,,,,,thanx:banana:




Of course you do, so entitled.

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