Topic: Death Penalty and Rape
Moondark's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:41 AM
People say that the death penalty does not cost less than housing a
prisoner for life. Perhaps, after adding in all the costs for appeals,
if the inmate's people are not paying for it, then perhaps I can see
that.

I do believe that anyone sitting on Death Row should have thier case
looked at again using the latest in modern investigation. There are
people on Death Row that didn't have the advantage of modern DNA
testing. And case in which there is such evidence ought to be relooked
at prior to any further executions.

Of course, on cases in which DNA proved without any doubt that this
person did it, then there should be LESS appeal options open to a person
and the person should face execution much more swiflty.

Why am I thinking about this right now?

Because of the issue of Death penalties and Rape cases that is in the
news. The Death Penalty cannot be given in a case where the rapist
doesn't murder the victim as well. But that is for adults. The view of
judges and law makers is that Rape is not as significant a crime as
murder. But Louisiana wants it for Child Rapists.

Personally, given the cost to the victim that has to live with the rape
afterwards, given the life long repercutions and impact on that person's
life, given the fact that a murder victim is past caring and free of
pain, I think that Rape is a more vicsious, more heiness crime and even
more deserving of the Death Penalty than Murder.

A sociopathic serial killer is never going to be reformed. Might as
well have the death penalty. A crime of passion that results in murder
may not deserve the death penalty unless it was particularily cruel and
sadistic. But Rape is NOT NOT NOT a crime of passion. Rape is a crime
of Power and of Hatred and of Cruelty. Rape causes long term issues
that a person has to try and overcome. Rape can cost a great deal of
money in attempted recovery. And heaven forbid if a woman ends up
pregnant and decides to give birth. In this country, a Rapist has the
right to sue for visitation and parental rights if a child results. So
it is actually in a woman's best interest to have an abortion if
pregnancy results from the rape. Not to mention the posibilities of
sexually transmitted diseases.

The death penalty in cases of murder isn't for the victim. It is for
the victim's family or to end a serial killer's incurable urges. Why do
we fail to protect a victim after a crime? Rape is totally and
completely deserving of the Death Penalty and I do not see it as Cruel
and Unusual punishment. It is totally justified.

Single_Rob's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:42 AM
just give me their info and fuggitaboutit

no photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:44 AM
Rape is a murder of one's soul, even if the body survives. brokenheart

no photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:44 AM
And when a woman lies about being raped? Falsely accuses a man of rape? In that case would you be pro death penalty also? For the accuser I mean.

Single_Rob's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:44 AM

And when a woman lies about being raped? Falsely accuses a man of rape? In that case would you be pro death penalty also? For the accuser I mean.
they would never make a claim like that out of shame, or revenge. Who are you kidding, lol

Moondark's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:45 AM

And when a woman lies about being raped? Falsely accuses a man of rape? In that case would you be pro death penalty also? For the accuser I mean.


When a woman lies about it, it almost never get very far. That is very easy for them to identify these days from the patterns of bruising and the rape kits.

Moondark's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:46 AM


And when a woman lies about being raped? Falsely accuses a man of rape? In that case would you be pro death penalty also? For the accuser I mean.


When a woman lies about it, it almost never get very far. That is very easy for them to identify these days from the patterns of bruising and the rape kits. That would be lawsuit for slander. That isn't the murder of the soul. I like how that was put.

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Wed 04/16/08 08:49 AM


And when a woman lies about being raped? Falsely accuses a man of rape? In that case would you be pro death penalty also? For the accuser I mean.


When a woman lies about it, it almost never get very far. That is very easy for them to identify these days from the patterns of bruising and the rape kits.


I think that's a bit unfair. If the couple DID have sex, but the woman later claims rape, they would have DNA. Any man accused of rape would be in danger of the death penalty, therefore I think it's only right that any accuser who lies should be also in danger of the death penalty.

Brykers23's photo
Wed 04/16/08 08:54 AM
I think the Death Penalty should be reserved for Murder, eye for an eye right? As for rapists send them to prison where they will become someone's ***** and dressed up in hair curlers and a skirt and have their ass used as a park and ride by the entire prison population.

Any male who rapes a woman is bey my definition not a real "man." Real men respect a woman's right to say no whenever she wants even if a man and a woman are in the middle of passion. Exerting power over someone who is physically weaker then you is vile and despicable. No means no. Yes this is a man saying this! No woman ever deserves to be raped ever! Some guys will think, well she had it coming because she was wearing a skimpy dress, or she was all over me, to which I say bull****!

no photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:00 AM

Rape is a murder of one's soul, even if the body survives. brokenheart


This is actually a good thought provoking topic - let's not go into the melodramatic. yawn

adj4u's photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:02 AM
well if someone falsely accuses another of a crime then they should receive the penalty that the one they falsely accuse has the possibility of getting


that would cut down on a lot of false police reports and save a lot of money

but that being said i'm out for now

i'll be back to see my battering later

be well and may much good come to you and yours

no photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:08 AM
On that - death penalty for rape.

Well, I wouldn't think it should be an automatic sentence, I personally don't see a reason why it should not be on the table.
Aside from the melodramatic "He murdered my soul" routines. (yes, there is certainly some amount of damage to one's mental state, but again - let's keep in reason)

If the act contained extremely violent actions - ie, used a weapon, any form of permanent bodily mutilations, or especially a serial rapist - I could certainly agree - death penalty is on the table.

So, something like a 'date rape' might not be eligible for the death penalty, unless, the perp was a serial rapist.

Make sense?

no photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:14 AM
My ex cheated on me repeatedly, which murdered my soul. She should be given the death penalty. :cry:

Dragoness's photo
Wed 04/16/08 09:15 AM
I don't believe in the death penalty at all, ever. So to use it for rapists would not be feasible in my eyes either. With the death penalty there is no room for error and this is not acceptable when taking anyones life.

NotConanObrien's photo
Fri 04/18/08 10:21 PM
I think a big part of the theory of having the death penalty only for murder is that it's supposed to deter people from murdering witnesses to other crimes. Like, "OK, I might get caught, but at least I won't get executed. I might be a LITTLE more likely to get away with it if I kill the witness, but it's not worth the risk there still is of getting caught, since I could be executed for that/"

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Sat 04/19/08 01:40 AM

well if someone falsely accuses another of a crime then they should receive the penalty that the one they falsely accuse has the possibility of getting


No battering from here - actually a decent idea. As long as it can be proven somehow that you intentionally lied or 'manufactured' the crime to get someone else in trouble.

Single_Rob's photo
Sat 04/19/08 08:51 AM


well if someone falsely accuses another of a crime then they should receive the penalty that the one they falsely accuse has the possibility of getting


No battering from here - actually a decent idea. As long as it can be proven somehow that you intentionally lied or 'manufactured' the crime to get someone else in trouble.
*cough*Duke*cough*