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We are just going to bankrupt the nation, make America the ass of all nations, at some point the bills for all of this is going to come due.

naturally the leftist commies would have us announce our battle plans and tactics to the world in advance..... cmon.

Well, maybe...

Japan still owes the U.S. for war debts in WW2, so does Germany and other European countries.

Morning warmachine, at it again hun?

The US shouldn't attack Iran. If anyone needed to drop that one it definitley shouldn't be the US.

I admit though, Ahmadinejad is a totally @$$hole. What he did to the British ship they commandeered was ignorant.

Yes, Ma'am!

I would understand attacking Iran if they had attacked us on our soil, but that hasn't happened, nor do I think it will, but we keep poking the beast with a stick, on behalf of Israel. They aren't even invading their neighbors.

Iran's gonna attack someone... "poke poke" Iran's threatened Israel... "poke poke" Iran's supplying weapons,Here they are...oops, those aren't theirs, but they're doing it! "poke poke"

How long can you abuse a nation, before they fight back? Would Iran be justified at this point?
How about dealing with the Iraq problem, if anyone has a higher amount riding on what happens there, it's the Iranians, due to their common border and the potential for spill over if an all out civil war breaks out ( That's all we're doing now is containing civil war).

The biggest problem with picking on Iran, is China and Russia, does anyone really think they are going to let the number 1 supplier of their oil get bombed back to the stone age? LOL... I think not. So ask yourself, are we prepared to enter a hot war with a nation that has the kinds of diplomatic relationships that Iran has to China, who, based on the debt that Bush and a complicit congress has racked up, could buy us tomorrow?

I think we might end up getting our a$$es kicked, both militarily, because we're already stretched so thin, and economically, because Bush policies have sold our future to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia and others.
That being said, is Ahmadinejad a good guy? I would say no, but are we going to do to Iran, what we've done to Afghanistan and Iraq? Afghan has been restored to the Poppy Capitol of the world, under our watch and Iraq is a clusterf**k.

People are under the impression that one nuke will do the job.

The Pentagon disagrees with that. I have read reports that range from as many as 4 to double or triple that.

You are talking about nuclear fallout that will effect the entire planet.

Since when has 2 wrongs made a right?
"Ok so they got nukes, so what we'll do is get MORE nukes to blow up their nukes because they can't have nukes because then they're a threat."
The logic there is skewed. Who is to say that one country having nukes is worse than the next? And who made it up to the US to say who can and can't have them?
Call me a hippie or a tree hugger or whatever else you want (just not late for supper...) but I think the world would be a better place if we erased nukes all together.

Ya know, the more I think about things in society today the more I think I'll be sitting around in 60 years telling my grandkids stories about how life was before nuclear war. Like great grandparents and grandparents did about WW2. I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

Watch this, 2 min, 35 sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU21ASgYzKU

From the HPAC calculations, (the Hazard Prediction and Assessment Capability) 1 bomb- 1.2 Megaton, target-Isfahan, Iran!

We estimate that within 48 hours of an attack, over 3 million people would die as a result of the attack. About half of those would die from radiation-related causes, either prompt casualties from the immediate radiation effects of the bomb, or from exposure to fallout. For example, the entire city of Isfahan would likely be covered in fallout producing 1000 rems of radiation per hour, a fatal dose. Over 600,000 people would suffer immediate injuries of the kind described previously. …
…within 48 hours, prevailing winds would spread fallout to cover a large area in Iran, most of Afghanistan and then spread on into Pakistan and India. There is little likelihood, in most seasons, that rain would mitigate the spread of fallout.

In this scenario, over 35 million people in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India would suffer significant radiation exposure of 1 rem per hour or above within four days of the use of the RNEP. At this rate, the 25 rem limit at which physical effects can be expected would be reached within 25 hours of first exposure, and the 100 rem limit at which more severe damage could be caused would be reached in only 4 days. (Given the lack of modern communications in this area, as well as the lack of advanced education available to the affected populations, it is unlikely that warnings would spread quickly enough to allow mitigating measures to be taken). Immediate effects would include skin burns and diarrhea secondary to gastro-intestinal cell damage. Long-term effects could include cancers. Many, if not all, of the approximately 20,000 American armed forces, intelligence and diplomatic personnel deployed in Afghanistan would be at risk of exposure at these radiation levels. While U.S. personnel could be evacuated, and would receive sophisticated medical care if necessary, this would not apply to the local population in most of the affected area.

You go BUSH

http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2006/01/nuke_iran_now_w.html

This is the $hit that pisses me off. What is an acceptable reason for all these people to die? THERE IS NOT ONE!!!!

And that's just one target.
Iran has spread its nuclear facilities and storage site in as many as 450 different sites. Many are in Hardened and deeply buried targets (HDBTs) located purposely near highly populated areas. Even using newer tech bunker buster nukes these can not be eliminated with just one.

Bush and the nuke hawks he has surrounded himself with think they can!!

Why do what Israel is already planning on doing? Israel will not allow Iran to get the nuclear bomb, and if they should make it, Israel will find out, and blow that site to oblivion. As they rightly should, before it gets handed off to Iran's proxy army Hezbollah.

Thats fine by me, let Israel use preemptive war, but lets be sure to make Israel deal with their own consequences. I'm sick of America playing Globocop, when we can't seem to get things right in our own yard.

yep soviet union is proof of this fact

just a thought

but hey

whatdo i know

Gee, would that be a reference to the honey pot war that the United States helped fund, when the Soviets chose to invade Afghanistan in the 70's?

kinda funny how we are there now

maybe they should have helped the soviets

instead of those we a now fighting

interesting

very intersting

Speaking of interesting, the guy who brags about creating the policy that Carter used to fund them, Brzezinski, is now Obama's foriegn policy advisor. All 3 of the mainstream candidates will bring more of the same.

I'm so sick of this Nation funding maniacs and then screaming bloody murder when Americans don't want to get behind the policies to go dispose of the mess we create. This is why the founders advocated nonintervention.

You should read the history of Afghanistan before 1979. You might understand why it is what it is now, and why and what happened in 1978-79!
The events leading up to the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan stretch over several centuries, involved 3 Russian-British wars, and when they finally, with the help of Russia, gained Independence from Britain in 1911. They asked for US aid to develop their infrastructure and were ignored. Twice, cause they asked again during the 50's. The reason for the US not to help, we still considered them part of the British Empire. So, with no where else to turn they turned to Russia.
Back then they were a democracy and allowed women to vote. Brzezinski warned Carter several times of what was happening in Afghanistan. Carter just ignored him and waivered on what to do until it was too late.
Funny, aye?

I wouldn't put it past this lame duck President to get us into yet another war before he leaves office to insure that his 'legacy' is universally condemned for many years to come.