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Topic: God created everything correct?
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Wed 07/30/08 01:28 PM
Many give God credit for creating everything including our universe?

Did he also create Violence, Diseases, Cannibilism, etc.

or is it he gave us free will to also do bad things?

Who created the following?

Reproduction and life history of a Praying Mantis!

Sexual cannibalism is common among mantises in captivity, and under some circumstances may also be observed in the field. The female may start feeding by biting off the male’s head (as with any prey), and if mating had begun, the male’s movements may become even more vigorous in its delivery of sperm. Early researchers thought that because copulatory movement is controlled by ganglion in the abdomen, not the head, removal of the male’s head was a reproductive strategy by females to enhance fertilisation while obtaining sustenance.


sheesh am I glad female humans are not like this!

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Wed 07/30/08 01:29 PM
you sure are getting a lot of use out of that :tongue:

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Wed 07/30/08 01:31 PM

you sure are getting a lot of use out of that :tongue:


but isn't that the weirdest thing in the world! Wow I was like what the heck! The female bites the males head off!


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Wed 07/30/08 01:32 PM
haha I think it's actually fairly common in the insect world

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Wed 07/30/08 01:32 PM

Many give God credit for creating everything including our universe?

Did he also create Violence, Diseases, Cannibilism, etc.


In humans, violence and cannibalism are behaviors and thus are caused by choices, not nature.

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Wed 07/30/08 01:34 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 07/30/08 01:36 PM
God gave us free will. He also obviously has a sense of humor about birth control in the insect world.


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Wed 07/30/08 01:36 PM
Well,you can't say ALL females aren't like thatdevil

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Wed 07/30/08 01:43 PM

Well,you can't say ALL females aren't like thatdevil


true... also you can't say that male insects don't have it coming to them..

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Wed 07/30/08 01:52 PM
Many give God credit for creating everything including our universe?

Did he also create Violence, Diseases, Cannibilism, etc.


The biblical account of creation has man's fall from the grace of God being responsible for all of that. Clearly man cannot be responsible for that since death, violence, disease, and so forth were always part of nature long before man came onto the scene.

Therefore this picture of God much be discounted as mythology. It's no different from Greek Mythology in that respect. Greek Mythology held that the Gods lived atop Mt. Olympus. But no gods were found on the top of that mountain. Biblical Mythology held that mankind is responsible for the imperfections of the world, but alas we know that this isn't true. The fall of mythologies is a common thing. :wink:

Some people still like to believe in them. Just like some people still believe in ghosts, vampires, and all the other mythological creatures.

I believe in M&Ms. I'm eating some right now. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. :wink:

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Wed 07/30/08 02:02 PM

Many give God credit for creating everything including our universe?

Did he also create Violence, Diseases, Cannibilism, etc.


The biblical account of creation has man's fall from the grace of God being responsible for all of that. Clearly man cannot be responsible for that since death, violence, disease, and so forth were always part of nature long before man came onto the scene.

Therefore this picture of God much be discounted as mythology. It's no different from Greek Mythology in that respect. Greek Mythology held that the Gods lived atop Mt. Olympus. But no gods were found on the top of that mountain. Biblical Mythology held that mankind is responsible for the imperfections of the world, but alas we know that this isn't true. The fall of mythologies is a common thing. :wink:

Some people still like to believe in them. Just like some people still believe in ghosts, vampires, and all the other mythological creatures.

I believe in M&Ms. I'm eating some right now. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. :wink:



M&Ms is another lie. They do melt in your hands!laugh

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Wed 07/30/08 02:13 PM

M&Ms is another lie. They do melt in your hands!laugh


Everything is ulimately a myth Smiless. smokin

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Wed 07/30/08 02:15 PM


M&Ms is another lie. They do melt in your hands!laugh


Everything is ulimately a myth Smiless. smokin


yes I know it is! I love mythology for entertainment purposes. A big industry today indeed.

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Wed 07/30/08 03:02 PM

Many give God credit for creating everything including our universe?


according to believers God didn't create evil... Man did.. which mean that Man created something that God didn't or couldn't ..since God is Love it's possible that God had no concept of what evil was and that this was an instance that man had to show God the way and hand God knowledge..

maybe that why God created Hell because he had no concept of what evil was and therefore has no idea that condemning people to hell is committing evil on his part...surely the believers wasn't going to tell him that roasting people in hell was perhaps..er.. evil

so since Man is credited in creating atleast one thing that God didn't would mean that there may be other things that Man have created or will create because God won't or can't or even have a concept that it exist or how to do it

so since Man create evil then God is clearly not the creator of everything in the universe which is a contradiction of the bible .. this clearly shall be written in The Third Testament

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Wed 07/30/08 04:08 PM
hmmm? not sure of that one funches - didn't god say to the other gods - man has become like us "knowing both good and "evil"? If he knew of it before man was created wouldn't that mean that it had existed before the creation of man? were the angels not guilty of evil in rebelling against god? did he not say of the tree and call it the tree of knowledge of good and "evil"? it appears evil was around long before man was. i'm not sure as to whether it states in the bibble whether god did or didnot create evil?? i look into it though.

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Wed 07/30/08 06:41 PM

hmmm? not sure of that one funches - didn't god say to the other gods - man has become like us "knowing both good and "evil"? If he knew of it before man was created wouldn't that mean that it had existed before the creation of man? were the angels not guilty of evil in rebelling against god? did he not say of the tree and call it the tree of knowledge of good and "evil"? it appears evil was around long before man was. i'm not sure as to whether it states in the bibble whether god did or didnot create evil?? i look into it though.


I was going with "according to believers" because they will insist that God can do no wrong and that Man created evil but as you said the fact that God created the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil proves that evil existed before Man and that Man is not reasonable for it's creation ..it is therefore ejected from The Third Testament

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Wed 07/30/08 06:46 PM


hmmm? not sure of that one funches - didn't god say to the other gods - man has become like us "knowing both good and "evil"? If he knew of it before man was created wouldn't that mean that it had existed before the creation of man? were the angels not guilty of evil in rebelling against god? did he not say of the tree and call it the tree of knowledge of good and "evil"? it appears evil was around long before man was. i'm not sure as to whether it states in the bibble whether god did or didnot create evil?? i look into it though.


I was going with "according to believers" because they will insist that God can do no wrong and that Man created evil but as you said the fact that God created the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil proves that evil existed before Man and that Man is not reasonable for it's creation ..it is therefore ejected from The Third Testament


just curious, do you have a list of what is in the 3rd testament?

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Wed 07/30/08 06:52 PM



hmmm? not sure of that one funches - didn't god say to the other gods - man has become like us "knowing both good and "evil"? If he knew of it before man was created wouldn't that mean that it had existed before the creation of man? were the angels not guilty of evil in rebelling against god? did he not say of the tree and call it the tree of knowledge of good and "evil"? it appears evil was around long before man was. i'm not sure as to whether it states in the bibble whether god did or didnot create evil?? i look into it though.


I was going with "according to believers" because they will insist that God can do no wrong and that Man created evil but as you said the fact that God created the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil proves that evil existed before Man and that Man is not reasonable for it's creation ..it is therefore ejected from The Third Testament


just curious, do you have a list of what is in the 3rd testament?


so far in The Third Testament Thread maybe two contradictions will make the list but since the thread just started I have to get each a chance to be debated like you just did with this one ..if they are not debated then they will make the list but at any time can be debated off the list

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Wed 07/30/08 06:54 PM




hmmm? not sure of that one funches - didn't god say to the other gods - man has become like us "knowing both good and "evil"? If he knew of it before man was created wouldn't that mean that it had existed before the creation of man? were the angels not guilty of evil in rebelling against god? did he not say of the tree and call it the tree of knowledge of good and "evil"? it appears evil was around long before man was. i'm not sure as to whether it states in the bibble whether god did or didnot create evil?? i look into it though.


I was going with "according to believers" because they will insist that God can do no wrong and that Man created evil but as you said the fact that God created the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil proves that evil existed before Man and that Man is not reasonable for it's creation ..it is therefore ejected from The Third Testament


just curious, do you have a list of what is in the 3rd testament?


so far in The Third Testament Thread maybe two contradictions will make the list but since the thread just started I have to get each a chance to be debated like you just did with this one ..if they are not debated then they will make the list but at any time can be debated off the list


Gotcha, i'll look to see what two your talking of on your post thnx.

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Thu 07/31/08 08:51 AM


Many give God credit for creating everything including our universe?


according to believers God didn't create evil... Man did.. which mean that Man created something that God didn't or couldn't ..since God is Love it's possible that God had no concept of what evil was and that this was an instance that man had to show God the way and hand God knowledge..

maybe that why God created Hell because he had no concept of what evil was and therefore has no idea that condemning people to hell is committing evil on his part...surely the believers wasn't going to tell him that roasting people in hell was perhaps..er.. evil

so since Man is credited in creating atleast one thing that God didn't would mean that there may be other things that Man have created or will create because God won't or can't or even have a concept that it exist or how to do it

so since Man create evil then God is clearly not the creator of everything in the universe which is a contradiction of the bible .. this clearly shall be written in The Third Testament


Well I'm not sure that it's man who created evil...but man is subject to it by choice.

To do or not to do...that is the question. :smile:

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Thu 07/31/08 09:04 AM


you sure are getting a lot of use out of that :tongue:


but isn't that the weirdest thing in the world! Wow I was like what the heck! The female bites the males head off!




And you consider this unusual for a female of a species?

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