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Topic: what does Obama believe?
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Thu 08/28/08 04:38 PM


Its only ridiculous to a fundie.My position is it;s not any of my buisness what a women does with her body and since it is legal ,it's none of yours.


It is all of our business when ANYONE commits murder. The "A woman has a right to determine what happens to her own body" argument becomes moot when she becomes pregnant because at that point she has no right to decide what happens to the other person now growing inside her body that has no voice to speak for itself. You can try and clear your conscious with any lather that will soothe you at the time, but in the end, it is still murder and anyone that commits such a crime against humanity should be jailed the same as if I walked up and shot you dead.

I am as non-religious as a person can get and I still say it is murder to have an abortion. The left in this country wants no one to have any responsibility for anything they do. Nothing is your own fault. The more you tear down the things that make us civilized the more you take us back to the stone age. You don't have to be a religious fundamentalist to see that. Just have a brain and a conscious.

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Thu 08/28/08 04:38 PM

Same reason I would never take away the right of people to make the most important decisions of there lives, and the lives of there family, just like Terry Shiavo, Just like Abortion.


Terri Shiavo's family wanted her to live, her husband claimed that she had wanted to die, but only after he had her on life support for years and then found a new family. He could have left her alive and she would have been taken care of by her family.

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Thu 08/28/08 04:38 PM


Women are NOT incubators
A fetus is NOT a child
Abortion is NOT murder.....


slaphead


BS.....NOTHING BUT BS........frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

LINDYY
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Lindyy, this is the first time I have seen you get stumped. laugh

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Thu 08/28/08 04:39 PM





well when all you pro lifers adopt all the unwanted,deserted,beaten,unloved children who are brought into this world,then you can dictate a woman's choice to keep the babe or not.I am pro choice and people need to mind their business unless they are ready to step up .



PERHAPS LEFT WING LIBBERS SHOULD LEARN SOME SEXUAL MORALS....PUT AN END TO 'IF IT FEELS GOOD DO IT' PHILOSOPHY OF THE LEFTY LIBBERS......

PERHAPS THEY SHOULD LEARN SOME COMMON SENSE AND ACQUIRE A CONSCIENCE.....

SO, YOUR IDEA IS TO JUST KILL THE UNBORN CHILD AND TOSS IT IN THE GARBAGE....FOR THE SAKE OF A SO-CALLED WOMAN TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY???????????

WELL EXCUSE THE YOU KNOW WHAT OUT OF ME......IT IS NOT HER DAMN BODY...IT IS THE BODY OF AN UNBORN CHILD.....

LINDYY
SICK OF SICK MINDS.


like i said better to abort a unfeeling fetus then the child be killed or neglected after birth.It's between the woman and God and God forgives.


OH YOU ARE SO VERY OUT OF TOUCH WITH GOD.......EVERY ONE WILL ANSWER TO GOD....FOR THE MURDER OF AN UNBORN CHILD....

FLIMSY PATHETIC PHILOSOPHIAL EXCUSES JUST DO NOT GO OVER WITH GOD....SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE.


Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,And before you were born I consecrated you.........."
Jeremiah 1:4-6

Now, sit down and have a discussion with GOD......
about how He feels about abortion......





So by these Bible quotes, your life existed before conception. Then you also believe that it is the SOUL that has the "eternal life" and the body is merely the vessal for the soul.

Then is abortion really taking a life?


YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY RESPONSE????

LINDYY
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Thu 08/28/08 04:39 PM
and just for informational purposes a fetus begins after the 8th to 10th week of conception not at conception. From conception to the 8-10 wks its an embryo not a fetus.

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Thu 08/28/08 04:39 PM

heres the deal, the day YOU get pregnant, you can be free from the moral implications of choosing whether to carry your child to full term..oh, wait, youre male arent you??? mind your own business then....


Great response!

"Hey, killing humans is murder"

"Mind your own business!"

laugh

I have to laugh or I would cry.

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Thu 08/28/08 04:41 PM


Babies are living. Fetuses are living. Murdering is wrong. Abortion has nothing to do with a woman's rights, it has to do with a woman's convenience. Abortion is murder, you haven't even tried to address the fact that fetuses are living human beings, why are they exempt from the laws against murder?


murderers on death row are also human, yet no one seems to care about their right to life..animals are also god´s creatures yet I doubt very much that you are a vegetarian.....
As long as the "pick and choose" mentality of the anti-choice movement continues in its hipocrasy their tyranical approach to restricting other peoples rights must be fought tooth and nail....

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Thu 08/28/08 04:41 PM


Same reason I would never take away the right of people to make the most important decisions of there lives, and the lives of there family, just like Terry Shiavo, Just like Abortion.


Terri Shiavo's family wanted her to live, her husband claimed that she had wanted to die, but only after he had her on life support for years and then found a new family. He could have left her alive and she would have been taken care of by her family.

Details dont matter. What matter is the gov stepping into people lives where they dont belong

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Thu 08/28/08 04:42 PM

and just for informational purposes a fetus begins after the 8th to 10th week of conception not at conception. From conception to the 8-10 wks its an embryo not a fetus.


Good point. drinker

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Thu 08/28/08 04:42 PM
Gianna Jessen............SURVIVOR of a saline abortion.......

giannajessen.com

or are you radical left wing libbers afraid to enhance your knowledge on the subject of an abortion??????????

The woman is a living, breathing miracle......a living testimony to put all of you to shame......but then for those who have no conscience.....NOTHING WILL SINK IN....

:heart: LINDYY:heart:
ABORTION IS MURDER NO MATTER WHAT STAGE OF PREGNANCY IT IS DONE.....

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Thu 08/28/08 04:42 PM

No its not. Its completly in line with your reasoning.

A bunch of cells does not make a human. What makes a human . . . well what makes anything what it is?

All of the parts that comprise it that are required for it to continue to function and be defined as what it is. Without all of them working in unison you do not have the whole.

A engine is not a car. A car door is not a car. My hair is not a human. My leg is not a human.

So you say a child at conception is a human . . . how the hell is that?

Is there a brain at conception?
Is there a central nervous system at conception?
Is there eyes at conception?

Do you even know anything about this subject?


Does an embryo have human DNA? Yes.

Therefore it's human.

How far developed it is shouldn't matter. How developed does your nervous system have to be for you to be considered human? Should we kill the mentally retarded? How about the autistic? What about someone who has a broken neck, they can't move their body expect for eyes and mouth? Is that a human?

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Thu 08/28/08 04:42 PM


heres the deal, the day YOU get pregnant, you can be free from the moral implications of choosing whether to carry your child to full term..oh, wait, youre male arent you??? mind your own business then....


Great response!

"Hey, killing humans is murder"

"Mind your own business!"

laugh

I have to laugh or I would cry.


Ill remember this next time I see one of your pro-war statements...
indifferent

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 08/28/08 04:45 PM
:smile: You right wing people must have had a happy childhood to have such a positive view of life.Must have been nice.I didnt have that. I believe differently. I believe that life can be a curse.:smile:

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Thu 08/28/08 04:45 PM



Babies are living. Fetuses are living. Murdering is wrong. Abortion has nothing to do with a woman's rights, it has to do with a woman's convenience. Abortion is murder, you haven't even tried to address the fact that fetuses are living human beings, why are they exempt from the laws against murder?


murderers on death row are also human, yet no one seems to care about their right to life..animals are also god´s creatures yet I doubt very much that you are a vegetarian.....
As long as the "pick and choose" mentality of the anti-choice movement continues in its hipocrasy their tyranical approach to restricting other peoples rights must be fought tooth and nail....


Hypocrisy? laugh

Do you know the definition of the word? I think that no baby should be killed unless it's death will guarantee the life of the mother. I believe that on the grounds that a baby is a human, even if it's not born.

Animals: Not human.

Criminals: Human.

I don't support the execution of criminals, so I think we might agree on that. But if we agree that violent criminals shouldn't be killed, on what moral grounds do you think that innocent babies should be killed?

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Thu 08/28/08 04:46 PM

Gianna Jessen............SURVIVOR of a saline abortion.......

giannajessen.com

or are you radical left wing libbers afraid to enhance your knowledge on the subject of an abortion??????????

The woman is a living, breathing miracle......a living testimony to put all of you to shame......but then for those who have no conscience.....NOTHING WILL SINK IN....

:heart: LINDYY:heart:
ABORTION IS MURDER NO MATTER WHAT STAGE OF PREGNANCY IT IS DONE.....


64% of Americans are PRO CHOICE. You can't label the majority of Americans as "radical left wing libbers".


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Thu 08/28/08 04:46 PM

:smile: You right wing people must have had a happy childhood to have such a positive view of life.Must have been nice.I didnt have that. I believe differently. I believe that life can be a curse.:smile:


I believe it's not your right to choose when life is a curse.

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Thu 08/28/08 04:46 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Thu 08/28/08 04:49 PM
flowerforyou If your so for lifeflowerforyou

:smile: Why dont YOU pay the money to raise the child ???:smile:


MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 08/28/08 04:48 PM


:smile: You right wing people must have had a happy childhood to have such a positive view of life.Must have been nice.I didnt have that. I believe differently. I believe that life can be a curse.:smile:


I believe it's not your right to choose when life is a curse.
:smile: If you ever suffered you would understand. If you had been born to a worse situation than a dog, you would understand. if you suffered thru your childhood and watched your sisters suffer as well, you would understand.Must be nice to be you. Thats all I can say.

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Thu 08/28/08 04:49 PM

flowerforyou If you so for lifeflowerforyou

:smile: Why dont YOU pay the money to raise the child ???:smile:




I am raising four. Two are mine and two aren't and none of them live with me. How many are you raising?

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Thu 08/28/08 04:50 PM



:smile: You right wing people must have had a happy childhood to have such a positive view of life.Must have been nice.I didnt have that. I believe differently. I believe that life can be a curse.:smile:


I believe it's not your right to choose when life is a curse.
:smile: If you ever suffered you would understand. If you had been born to a worse situation than a dog, you would understand. if you suffered thru your childhood and watched your sisters suffer as well, you would understand.Must be nice to be you. Thats all I can say.


Appeal to emotion. It's a logical fallacy.

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