Where did you get that BS 64%???????????? Out of obama's camp??????

Don't know where you get your facts, but if it were me, I would switch 'information sites.'

I TAKE IT YOU ARE AFRAID TO LOOK UP GIANNA JESSEN?????

LINDYY

None and I never will. Never never never will I bring a child into this world of suffering. NEVER.I know the suffering that is childhood. No way would I do that to someone else.

FAR FROM STUMPED.....SIMPLY TOTALLY IRATE AT THE THOUGHT OF SO-CALLED HUMAN BEINGS THINKING IT IS JUST SO PEACH KEAN TO KILL AN UNBORN CHILD....

LINDYY

Besides the fact that no one wants you.

Must be nice living in a fantasyland where life is sacred and counts for something because Ive got news for you pal, It means nothing. Nothing but suffering after suffering unless your lucky to be born into a nice life like you.

What do you mean? Are you attacking me?Please clarify your comment.

But you can still help a child who is alive. Why not adopt? How about being a foster parent? You are SO grieved about the plight of these children, but not enough to help them?

You know nothing of my life, how can you be so sure it was good? The only reason I value life is because I had a nice childhood? That's an indictment of the whole human race. Because you are bitter and hate life, then everyone feels that way or had a pampered upbringing. I suggest you seek some counseling about your issues, because you are getting nowhere on your own.

Hypocrisy?

Do you know the definition of the word? I think that no baby should be killed unless it's death will guarantee the life of the mother. I believe that on the grounds that a baby is a human, even if it's not born.

Animals: Not human.

Criminals: Human.

I don't support the execution of criminals, so I think we might agree on that. But if we agree that violent criminals shouldn't be killed, on what moral grounds do you think that innocent babies should be killed?


I dont believe any innocent baby should be killed, there is a thread here about a woman who "cooked" her baby in the microwave...I dont believe anyone has the right to take the life of another...I also dont believe that an embryo/fetus is a "human" life...I believe that an abortion is a medical proceedure not murder..I am not blinded or influenced by dogmatic christian scripture..there is no medium here between your beliefs and mine, debate therefore is impossible...so I say to you..if you believe that abortion is wrong then dont have one...that doesnt give you the right to tell me what I can or can not do with my body..again, mind your own business and let me attend to mine....by the way..human beings are animals too....

Why do you believe that? What do you base that belief on? What makes a human? Is being human more than having human DNA? Who decides where we draw the line: This side you are human, on the other you are less than?

Thats an interesting point Spider. Thank you. It took me years to develop a decent quality of life. I'll take your suggestions under consideration.

indeed what makes a human?? are we simply just genes lumped together...or is it our personality, our ability to think and make decisions? what places us above animals? or are we just kidding ourselves thinking we are superior to a bird or a whale or even another human being??...you are fixated on what makes a human, I am more concerned with what makes a human "be-ing"...I have no problem flushing down the toilet genes lumped together, but I stop when I see sentience and for me, that makes a human be-ing...

Sentience? When does a human become sentient? Immediately upon birth? That's an awfully convenient belief. If a baby is born today it's sentient, but if we abort it one day before, it's not sentient?

hey, heres an idea, instead of trying to get me to defend my beliefs to you, how about stating your own opinions and answering your own questions?? then in that way we can have a nice philosophical debate...you know, you challenge me with your ideas backed up by your beliefs and I challenge you with mine...

I've stated my beliefs repeatedly:

I believe that life begins at conception.

I believe that humanity begins at conception.

I believe that all humans have value.

I think that abortion should only be legal in cases where the mother's life is in danger.

Now let's see you answer these questions:

1) When does life begin?

2) At what point does humanity begin?

3) Do all humans have value?

4) When should abortion be illegal?

Now let's see you answer these questions:

1) When does life begin?
2) At what point does humanity begin?
3) Do all humans have value?
4) When should abortion be illegal?

Spider, as soon as you find a "loop-hole" (mothers life in danger) you become a hypocrite...if you value life, then you value life even if the mother dies, since technically thats gods will isnt it??? who are you to decide over god...?

questions 1-4...dont know and dont care...my life began when it began and my humanity is in the making as long as Im alive..my value depends on my work on earth...why should abortion be illegal? Its just another medical proceedure...
for the record, Im happy that my mom didnt choose to abort me...but if she had, I would have never known, would I??

Im done hijacking this thread...going to go watch a movie now....

I'm not a hypocrite. A mother is a part of a family with duties and responsibilities. If it's a question of the mother or the child, then the mother should win by default. But I'm not sure how often that is a medical reality. When is there a situation when either the mother or child will die and the child couldn't survive outside of the womb? I always fall on the side of life. Always. I think what my questions have done is reveal to you, if not everyone reading, that you don't know why you believe what you believe. You have been force fed this "It's a woman's body" crap so long that you haven't bothered to think about the issues involved.

LINDYY
ABORTION IS MURDER NO MATTER WHAT STAGE OF PREGNANCY IT IS DONE.....



Abortion is Murder.

Supposing you get your wish and abortion is re-criminalized, should a woman who aborts her baby be subject to capital punishment?"

She should be treated like anyone else who kills their kids: subjected to mental evaluation. If she is found sane, then she should suffer the consequences of her actions, whatever the legislature deems the appropriate punishment should be. If she's found insane, then she should be institutionalized.