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Topic: theory and queston
Classyjeff's photo
Mon 03/26/07 07:49 AM
I read a book a year or so ago that related gods plan to a story and i
loved it but sometimes i have a hard time seeing myself in it. i
understand that we all have our bit parts but it seams to me that things
in my life are just foly and that there seams to be no real plan for me.
i dont bleive that god creates junk but i feel like he made me for no
reason sometimes..

i guess my question is does anyone feel like they are itaking part of
gods plan for you

Greyhound's photo
Mon 03/26/07 08:08 AM
I truly beleive that we were all put on this Earth for a reason. :smile:

Classyjeff's photo
Mon 03/26/07 08:09 AM
i do todont get me wrong im just having a hard time finding the reason

Redykeulous's photo
Mon 03/26/07 08:36 AM
Class, I was repressed, suppressed, maybe even oppressed for so many
years. I not only lived in a closet, I spent many years burrowing a hole
beneath it. But in spite of my inability to be open and free I upheld
truth and a little at a time, sometimes even just one person at a time,
my truth made a difference. I was not always aware of this for a long
time. Even after setting myself free of that hole, free of that closet,
my self worth was in question. I had missed out on so much of what I saw
as the bigger picture. I did not partake in marches, I was not a
feminist, however at some point I took account of who I was, where I
have been and what I have done and I see a trail blazed in some small
part of this world. People I have changed, people I have influenced,
one at a time. I sat on a fence and I held a f*#kn gate open and led
people through, let them see what they were afraid of. I see now there
is no need to hold the gate open, the hinges have rusted off and little
by little the gate is falling down. Now I can proceed with what I am
passionate about, opening peoples minds to acceptance, continueing a
struggle for equality on an open playing field. I have always had
purpose, I just didn't know it. We all have abilities, we all have
that which we are pasionate about. An artist who see's truth in color
or structure, a writer who sparks the imagination and takes one on a
journey they might not otherwise take. A reporter whose pictures shame
us or make us proud, the computer geek who has no formal education, they
all have passions. Find your's, it does not have to save the world, it
does not have to make you rich or popular. It only has to fulfill you.
If you are satisfied, if you feel as worthy to be here as even the
lowliest of poeple, then you belong here and you have a purpose.

juju2680's photo
Mon 03/26/07 08:40 AM
i dont know if this will mean much to you but.....

IT's all about timing. One day. One moment in time u will know.
Jus like fallin in love, u hear people say it all the time. " You just
know"
That's kinda the same thing as what Im getting at.
There will come a event, day, tragedy, celebration....
something that will spark your heart and u will know what at that exact
moment in time what God has planned for you.
Just continue to pray....and i hope the best for you.

no photo
Mon 03/26/07 12:48 PM
each of us has a calling... whether or not you follow that calling is
another matter. It may be that God wants you just where you are. You
never know what the big picture plan is, SO i never worry about it much.
i TRY TO DO WHAT HE WANTS ME TO DO, BUT SOMETIMES ITS CONFUSING... is it
what he wants or what I want...... thats where prayer and study pay off.

netuserlla's photo
Tue 03/27/07 02:11 PM
Rambill is right in that God has things in motion all of the time. For
non-regilionists, The universe is working in the background all of the
time, even just to make our sun and solar system rotate around our
galxey center.'Nature' is always in the works.

Classyjeff's photo
Tue 03/27/07 03:29 PM
i keep studying and reading my bible and cant seam to find my path
though. im a good friend and im trying to be a good person.. but besides
that im lost

netuserlla's photo
Tue 03/27/07 04:41 PM
Well it seems that you are one the right path Jeff. Keep going.

Classyjeff's photo
Tue 03/27/07 05:37 PM
im trying real hard but faith weavers sometimes

no photo
Tue 03/27/07 06:10 PM
we all have been or are there. its a test of your faith i think.

no photo
Tue 03/27/07 06:12 PM
you recognise all this which is a huge step in itself. many live thier
whole life without getting that far. could be that God has you right
where he wants you already..... just guesin...

Redykeulous's photo
Tue 03/27/07 08:34 PM
Jeff, the strongest a faith can be is allowing yourself to question its
roots. Continueing to read and study the Bible is not the answer for
everyone. You have to allow yourself to question without fear of Holy
retribution. Look at Bible history, look and archeolical material
conderning history of the times before and after monotheism, the belief
in One God. Just because you do this will not make you non-Christian or
a bad person. It will instill in you either a deeper reason to have
faith or a reason to continue to question. But both will give you
freedom for the simple fact that YOU are the one developing the depth of
your faith, based on your decisions and thoughts and not beholding to
the teachings of others.

Classyjeff's photo
Mon 04/02/07 09:48 AM
at my college which had religious roots (i was there for a non religious
degree) they had weekly meetings for the students and had Christan
bands. alot of these people seamed to be rather more cheer leading for
god than doing anything about it. most of these people were also very
hated of people that lived lifes that they were not agreeing with. a
friend of mine had been going thur some depression problems and made a
remark about wanting to get drunk and some girl who we didn't even know
came up to us and started berating us about the idea. yes it wasn't the
smartest choice but it wasn't this persons place to get on their care
(me and my friends were taking care of him)..

ive gone thru some stuff in my past that has brought me closer to god
and i not understand that the hard paths ive had to take are for a
reason..

burgundybry's photo
Mon 04/02/07 10:17 AM
everything's a damn mystery...i want answers and i wanted them
yesterday!!...laugh laugh seriously jeff, i know the bible mentions
of "people not knowing the way out" or something to that effect in the
end times...all i know is, i try to maintain a concious contact with my
creator as much as possible, praying for knowledge of his will for my
life, and, to the best of my ability, carrying that out..whatever that
may be.

Barbiesbigsister's photo
Mon 04/02/07 10:38 AM
Your purpose will come. You are so young and have much time before the
true intentions are there. Time will bring you these answers shugar.
flowerforyou

Classyjeff's photo
Mon 04/02/07 03:45 PM
ya i know it just seams that everything is flying like a rat on crank
now a days

sillysammie's photo
Mon 04/02/07 04:14 PM
this is a really good question. In my personal experience it's not
everything that I can see... Sometimes it's a flashback of a person or
event that I go, "aha! that's what that was for!" Other times I feel
like my purpose is that THING in the corner of my eye that I just can't
turn quick enough to catch just a glimpse of it. But, be encouraged, God
has "started a great work in you more than you could ever dare to dream
or hope!"

daniel48706's photo
Mon 04/02/07 04:50 PM
That is so much the truth Sammie... And remember my brother, that of
nothing else you are here to provide an example to others. I personally
feel that we all ave several "missions in life" that god wants done, and
in between these missions ir even during them the one mission everyone
has is to show faith and trust, and to be there if someone needs them.
An old friend of mine who when I first met him I just shrugged off as
unimportant opened my eyes to this. He came in and sat down with me
about a year after I had met him. We had talked maybe ten times that
year (he was inmotor pool I as in linen), and although we were
definitely riendly we werent friends. We sat and talked about god for
almost three hours. Now that may not surprise to o many, but the
surprise is the fact that it started at midnight, and he had to be on
duty at 5am.
He had seen that I needed someone to talkt o, and that i was struggling
inmmy faith as you are now, and he came in and talked to me about it.
When he left, I knew that I could go to him day or night any time
nomatter what and talk.
Sometimes, the only reason we are here is to provide an ear or to tralk.

no photo
Mon 04/02/07 05:06 PM
Great question 'class..'

... And since you raise the question, it begs for an answer!

... and the answer can only be one of three choices:

'YES', 'NO', 'MAYBE' !!!

It is that simple. And it is each our choice to pick the one that works
for us.

'YES', CLEARS YOUR SOUL, YOUR HEART AND YOUR BRAIN. Kind of like a child
who's truly loved by his parents, and feels loved by his parents. He
can go on and get busy with all kinds of projects and activities in
life, where in turn he'll spread his loving to others!

'NO' and 'MAYBE', are touchier.
With 'maybe', there is doubt and hesitancy. Never quite sure. Things
are OK but not great! Always left wondering if there might be more! ...
and waiting for more!!! As for the love, well not sure again!!! Not
sure we have enough to spread, so we calculate and may not to give too
much away, ... in case!!!

With 'no', it's downright hard. We feel hard done by, and angry! Life
is unfair, and it mostly 'owes' us.
When's MY TURN COMING? We ask the world, life and God. Definitely no
love to spare, we're running a huge love deficit.

So maybeGod gave us a choice between the three and nothing else. His
plan, and US in it? ... is just that, HIS PLAN!!! Not ours! So let's
not worry about HIS stuff!

Let's just say YES he's got a plan, cause that's the choice HE gave us!
YES his got a plan, and let HIM worry about it.

That freeS you up INSTANTLY to follow your passions, follow the things
that touch you and move you!!!
Of course YOU have them, we all do!!!

The only thing is, when we preoccupy ourselves too much with figuring
out God's plan, which is an impossible task to start with, we have no
time or presence left to DO what THERE IS TO DO, AND LOVE WHAT THERE IS
TO LOVE.

I USED TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE DOING, UNTIL I STARTED LOVING
WHAT I DO!!! (I try and myself of that every time I start doubting!)



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