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Topic: Debate #1
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Sat 09/27/08 02:01 AM
Edited by t22learner on Sat 09/27/08 02:15 AM
Rather than cite sources that will be dismissed as from "the liberal-left media," I'll use FoxNews's own GOP pollster Frank Luntz. His Nevada focus group of independents on FoxNews gave the debate win to Barack Obama.

What I saw was two candidates holding their own on the issues. Here's what else I saw:

- John McCain, who didn't have the decency to even look at his opponent, came across as angry, gruff, and unpresidential.

- Barack Obama spoke directly and respectfully to Sen. McCain and the American people in a knowledgeable, intelligent and charismatic way.

We'll see how their performances are reflected in the polls.

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Sat 09/27/08 06:01 AM

Rather than cite sources that will be dismissed as from "the liberal-left media," I'll use FoxNews's own GOP pollster Frank Luntz. His Nevada focus group of independents on FoxNews gave the debate win to Barack Obama.

What I saw was two candidates holding their own on the issues. Here's what else I saw:

- John McCain, who didn't have the decency to even look at his opponent, came across as angry, gruff, and unpresidential.

- Barack Obama spoke directly and respectfully to Sen. McCain and the American people in a knowledgeable, intelligent and charismatic way.

We'll see how their performances are reflected in the polls.


I love it! McCain acted like he wasn't even acknowledging OBAMA...it looked more like OBAMA trying to play with the big boys. Instead of McCain reacting to OBAMA I saw OBAMA reacting to McCain. Loved it!

I don't think attacking McCain & the REPS was a good answer or respectful of the OBAMA at all. I'm glad McCain ignored those insults out of the gate. Instead he talked about his bi-partisan efforts. It made OBAMA look rather silly. OBAMA was frazzled...that was clear to me... other than when he wasn't mimicing McCain. LOL


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Sat 09/27/08 06:17 AM
You love it that a person totally would ignore and so disrespect the person he is supposed to be interacting with?

If he is that disrespectful to someone he is involved with on stage like that, how disrespectful will he be to the rest of us? How badly is he going to just ignore the rest of us.

If we don't tow the line and agree with him, we do not exist to him. This is NOT a good sign in a potential leader. This is a BAD sign. Because anything that isn't in line with him is not worth his time or his acknowledgement.

This is the type of person that only wants "yes" men around him. And people like that have made notoriously bad leaders.

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Sat 09/27/08 06:21 AM

You love it that a person totally would ignore and so disrespect the person he is supposed to be interacting with?

If he is that disrespectful to someone he is involved with on stage like that, how disrespectful will he be to the rest of us? How badly is he going to just ignore the rest of us.

If we don't tow the line and agree with him, we do not exist to him. This is NOT a good sign in a potential leader. This is a BAD sign. Because anything that isn't in line with him is not worth his time or his acknowledgement.

This is the type of person that only wants "yes" men around him. And people like that have made notoriously bad leaders.




OBAMA looked foolish attacking McCain & the REPS with McCain's remarks about being BI-partisan.

McCain's intention? LOL

That's a fact. LOL

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Sat 09/27/08 06:36 AM
McCain looked like a pompous,arrogant and angry man.You should show respect to your opponent in a debate and you look them in the eye.I won't vote for McCain the Bush clone.My way or the highway is not good leadership.

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Sat 09/27/08 06:50 AM

I love it!

Not surprising. He channeled your hatred of Obama and that's appealing to you and other hypocrites on the right.

Not very "Christian" behavior, that's for sure.

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Sat 09/27/08 07:13 AM


I love it!

Not surprising. He channeled your hatred of Obama and that's appealing to you and other hypocrites on the right.

Not very "Christian" behavior, that's for sure.


I don't "hate" anyone. I believe McCain is the better of the two & OBAMA being too green for the office.

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Sat 09/27/08 07:22 AM
Hateful posts speak for themselves.

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Sat 09/27/08 07:26 AM
Edited by Lynann on Sat 09/27/08 07:29 AM
So McCain who says he reaches across the isle to form compromises that are in the best interest of the country can't do that in front of the whole country?

Maybe McCain couldn't look Obama in the eye because deep down, the man that he once was before he sold himself to try to win this race, is embarrassed about the lies coming from his campaign.

Maybe he couldn't admit any common ground because to do so would weaken his position with the rabid Obama haters he has to satisfy for their votes?

Did you see him with that stupid frozen smile on his face? That is a man who was trying very hard to not reveal what he was really thinking.

Funny to see posters who are rabid McCain fans desperate for anything they can call a win from last nights debates celebrating the fact McCain didn't look at Obama? I mean really? Is that the best you can do?

McCain relied on the same tired old rhetoric and lies. No win there. Nothing new. No substance. No reasoning.

You thought it was going to be a slam dunk win for the old guy. It wasn't. The best he could muster, the win...was not looking at his opponent?

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Sat 09/27/08 07:30 AM
Not looking an opponent in the eye is a sign of fear. John McCain is clearly intimidated by Barack Obama.

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Sat 09/27/08 07:45 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 09/27/08 08:20 AM
McCain owes the American people an apology for his so called accomplishments in foreign affairs.. The Surge worked, The surge worked..There should never have been a surge. You don't go to war and then pull out resources to go to war with someone else. You don't start a war, let alone one based on lies, without having the proper resources in place from the start to finish the job. Then you don't stand there and say we need more resources for the first war where you pulled resources out of..He and all involved owes all those dead soldiers families an apology..You just don't run things that way..If I ran a business that way it would fail...Wait I guess the government will just step in and bail me out!!!!

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Sat 09/27/08 08:17 AM
Last nights debate just made my decision stronger.
There is no way in hell I'd vote for McCain now.
HE made that very clear.
It is true that both candidates danced around some of the direct questioning, however, I was much more impressed with the way Obama handled it and his grown up attitude as opposed to McCain's childish smiles and such.
I thought there for a minute he was going to grab his blankie and storm off stage.
I'm still not sure who to vote for, but Obama came across as a leader.

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Sat 09/27/08 08:36 AM
The debate did not have any clear cut winner.

We got to hear the same things that we have been subjected to for the last several weeks. McCain spun the right and Obama spun the left.

Although the debate did not have a clear cut winner it did have a clear loser.

Us...We the People.

There was no voice upon that stage of Political theatrics that spoke for us as a nation.

As I have said before it was no more than a scripted jawin contest.

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Sat 09/27/08 08:45 AM

Hateful posts speak for themselves.


yes they do

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Sat 09/27/08 09:16 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sat 09/27/08 09:17 AM
i do not know what debate you all watched

actually obama acted like a spoiled brat and kept interupting to try and disrupt mccains thought process

mccain would smile and just ignore him

obama got his hat handed to him imo



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Sat 09/27/08 09:17 AM
as to be expected the liberals think Obama hit a home run and the conservatives think McCain won

and as far as I can tell the 10% that will decide this election see it as a draw

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Sat 09/27/08 09:19 AM

as to be expected the liberals think Obama hit a home run and the conservatives think McCain won

and as far as I can tell the 10% that will decide this election see it as a draw


i would say it was a draw if obama would not have lost his composure and kept interrupting with a tone of anger in his demeaner

like i said before i do not support either of them
but i can see the difference in the way they act

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Sat 09/27/08 09:20 AM

as to be expected the liberals think Obama hit a home run and the conservatives think McCain won

and as far as I can tell the 10% that will decide this election see it as a draw


and the 1% that see it as a loss for all of America.

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Sat 09/27/08 09:22 AM


as to be expected the liberals think Obama hit a home run and the conservatives think McCain won

and as far as I can tell the 10% that will decide this election see it as a draw


and the 1% that see it as a loss for all of America.


i must fit in the cross between loss for america and mccain winning as the outcome

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Sat 09/27/08 09:23 AM
hahaha the first time it was on I turned off the sound and just watched their body language and espressions. that was VERY interesting

personally I think the challenges we are facing in the next few years are beyond either of them

our biggest mistake is framing everything in a neocon/liberal culture war. While we are engaged in these petty arguments the rest of the world is passing us by

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