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Topic: doesn't "Jesus is God" goes against God's law
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Wed 10/29/08 01:44 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 10/29/08 01:54 PM
Funches wrote and I quote :


"Bushidobillyclub" before Jesus came there was no question who was God it was the one in the old testament ...Yahweh ...Jesus was use to bring about Pantheism..this would be used to dismiss the old testament and it's God Yahweh and to proclaim Jesus as God bringing no religion but only the teaching of ...."

FUNCHES!!!!!!

JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER.....

FROM THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD!!

JESUS IS.... THE WORD!!!

JESUS IS... I AM!!!!

JESUS (THE WORD) SPOKE THE VERY WORLDS INTO EXISTENCE!!!

JESUS (WORD) WAS RIGHT THERE ....WITH THE FATHER GOD......RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING .... WHEN GOD ALSO SAID , "LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE!!"

THE "US" MENTIONED THERE IS ...

GOD THE FATHER ,

GOD THE WORD, (JESUS WAS KNOWN AS THE THE WORD IN THE BEGINNNG, BEFORE HE CAME IN THE FLESH) ,

GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT !!!

ALL THREE ...YET... ONE.. GOD.... WERE RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING...
FROM THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD!!!

:heart::heart::heart:



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Wed 10/29/08 02:51 PM

Funches.......you are also a triune being:

You have ....

. a fleshly house
. a soul
. a spirit

Now,does any part of your triune being , diminish from the rest of who you are, as a whole?

No.....of course not.... you are still ONE UNIQUE FUNCH....wonderfully and fearfully made...in fact so unique ...that God even saw to give you your own set of fingerprints , that no ones else in the whole wide world has.

And Funches...Jesus is not in the flesh anymore.....He is back with the Father.

But yes ...
Jesus carrying that cross at Calvary, proves Jesus was man... just like us...yet also God.

But Funch ,Do you know WHY he could not carry that cross?

Because He was beaten so badly...
and YET, Jesus coud have called the whole of heaven to deliver Him,
but He did not......

because He was Obedient to carry out the Will of the Father in Heaven.

What Jesus did on that cross....It was all done for you Funches...
and for me...
and for the whole wide world...

because God wanted to SAVE us from what sin entering in, had done to us.

And so God sent His Only Begotten Son...
to take our place...
so we would not have to bear our sins anymore....

and thru what Jesus did on that cross,we are now able to come back into Fellowship with the Father Once More....

if we just Believe and Recieve this FREE GIFT of Grace Given... that Jesus already PAID for ...in FULL.

Funches....there is NO GREATER LOVE Than This...

NO GREATER LOVE.:heart::heart::heart:

Amd once more...

. Father God

.
Jesus(WORD)

. Holy Spirit

are ONE GOD.

Also Funches, Jesus is Known as the BREAD OF LIFE.

So...point is...Very SIGNIFICANT is Jesus , Funches.

BUT No less than the Father in the GodHead, or the Holy Spirit.....for again, all 3 in the Godhead(Father, Son ,Holy Spirit)... are STILL ONE GOD!!!!!
ONE!!!!!

Just like you are ONLY ONE FUNCHES.
:heart::heart::heart:




MorngingSong a soul and spirit are the same ...that which is dead supposely do not have a soul so when the soul leave the body do the dead still retain the spirit ...the spirit is the soul

also "MorningSong" just because you type in capital letters don't make Jesus anymore of a God

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Wed 10/29/08 02:53 PM

I could not handle two funches quite honestly. laugh :wink:


"Krimsa" you couldn't even handle one

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Wed 10/29/08 02:59 PM
Funches...man consists of a

.physical body

. soul (mind , will, emotions thoughts, affections , feelings)

.spirit


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Wed 10/29/08 03:07 PM

Funches...man consists of a

.physical body

. soul (mind , will, emotions thoughts, affections , feelings)

.spirit




"MorningSong" ...man life experiences is what shape the spirit into a soul ...

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Wed 10/29/08 03:25 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 10/29/08 03:33 PM
Sweet Funches...
the spirit and the soul of man are not the same....

When man believes and accepts Jesus Christ as His Personal Saviour and Lord,the spirit of man is the ONLY part of man that becomes BORN AGAIN...not the soul of man .

The soul of man is the part of man that consists of the Mind, will emotions, thoughts, affections, feelings...
and are the part of man (after becoming born again), that man still has to put under subjection to the Holy Spirit ...on a daily basis....as well as RENEW with the WORD OF GOD.

Meaning.... the same ole stinkng thinking can be going on in a born again christian, UNTIL he RENEWS his mind with the Word of God(and that is man's job.. not God's job to do...God does the SAVING and gives man a brand spanking NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT......but man still has to do the RENEWING of his MIND).

That's what it means to put on the Mind of Christ.

So....the spirit of man is the only part of man that becomes BORN AGAIN.

The flesh ALSO ....still needs to be put under subjection to the Holy Spirit.... and as man grows in the Word , He WILL put his flesh under the spirit also........along with RENEWING his mind DAILY with the Word of God....IF he wants to GROW, that is.
Some christians don't grow up, and remain stunted babes....cause they refuse to EAT their daily bread(Word).
Meaning.....they're saved....but their spirit man is STUNTED....
almost shriveled up..cause they don't renew thier minds with God's Word.

Meaning..that is why you see so many born again christians ... still acting lke the World..cause they have done little or nothing to RENEW their MINDS with the Word of God on a DAILY basis.

Gotta run Precious..Be Blessed Now....
:heart::heart::heart:

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Wed 10/29/08 04:15 PM

Sweet Funches...
the spirit and the soul of man are not the same....

When man believes and accepts Jesus Christ as His Personal Saviour and Lord,the spirit of man is the ONLY part of man that becomes BORN AGAIN...not the soul of man .

The soul of man is the part of man that consists of the Mind, will emotions, thoughts, affections, feelings...
and are the part of man (after becoming born again), that man still has to put under subjection to the Holy Spirit ...on a daily basis....as well as RENEW with the WORD OF GOD.

Meaning.... the same ole stinkng thinking can be going on in a born again christian, UNTIL he RENEWS his mind with the Word of God(and that is man's job.. not God's job to do...God does the SAVING and gives man a brand spanking NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT......but man still has to do the RENEWING of his MIND).

That's what it means to put on the Mind of Christ.

So....the spirit of man is the only part of man that becomes BORN AGAIN.

The flesh ALSO ....still needs to be put under subjection to the Holy Spirit.... and as man grows in the Word , He WILL put his flesh under the spirit also........along with RENEWING his mind DAILY with the Word of God....IF he wants to GROW, that is.
Some christians don't grow up, and remain stunted babes....cause they refuse to EAT their daily bread(Word).
Meaning.....they're saved....but their spirit man is STUNTED....
almost shriveled up..cause they don't renew thier minds with God's Word.

Meaning..that is why you see so many born again christians ... still acting lke the World..cause they have done little or nothing to RENEW their MINDS with the Word of God on a DAILY basis.

Gotta run Precious..Be Blessed Now....
:heart::heart::heart:


"MorningSong" to be born again is a decision one makes ..nothing in the person changes that they can't change back ...to be born again is just a willingness to accept Jesus Christ and drive your friends nuts

since only the soul/mind can make the descision to accept Jesus it is the soul that changes and the soul that can make the decision to unchange

the spirit comes after death..once the soul leaves the body it supposely goes to a spiritual plane of existence where it is called a spirit

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Wed 10/29/08 04:42 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Wed 10/29/08 04:54 PM
Funches...glad I am still here and saw this...


Funches...just like a baby born in the natural , cannot suddenly become UNBORN ....


the same with becoming BORN AGAIN in the spirit....

man who is TRULY born again in the spirit ... cannot sudenly become UNBORN!!!

NOT if he is TRULY born of God.

Funches....can a baby choose to become UNBORN?

No!!!

Same with becoming born of the spirit!!

Man .....once he is born again cannot CHOOSE to become UNBORN, because he had nothing to do with becoming born again in the first place....GOD DID IT!!!!

But....yes........
man has to Make a DECISION first...
from the HEART.....

to WILLINGLY COME TO GOD...
and Believe and Accept Jesus as His Saviour....

And THEN God does the rest...

by making man a brand new creation in Christ...by making his spirit born again
!!

flowerforyou

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Wed 10/29/08 05:23 PM

Funches...glad I am still here and saw this...


Funches...just like a baby born in the natural , cannot suddenly become UNBORN ....


the same with becoming BORN AGAIN in the spirit....

man who is TRULY born again in the spirit ... cannot sudenly become UNBORN!!!

NOT if he is TRULY born of God.

Funches....can a baby choose to become UNBORN?

No!!!

Same with becoming born of the spirit!!

Man .....once he is born again cannot CHOOSE to become UNBORN, because he had nothing to do with becoming born again in the first place....GOD DID IT!!!!

But....yes........
man has to Make a DECISION first...
from the HEART.....

to WILLINGLY COME TO GOD...
and Believe and Accept Jesus as His Saviour....

And THEN God does the rest...

by making man a brand new creation in Christ...by making his spirit born again
!!

flowerforyou



"MorningSong" if someone becomes reborn what changes that can't be unchanged by making the decision to change

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Thu 10/30/08 07:47 AM
well funch you got more life out of this post than i ever thought you would, but that's mainly due to your style of argueing, not because you deserve it - bigsmile

so to answer your question one last time -NO!!!!

now go eat some greasy food and beer!!!

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Thu 10/30/08 08:55 AM

well funch you got more life out of this post than i ever thought you would, but that's mainly due to your style of argueing, not because you deserve it - bigsmile

so to answer your question one last time -NO!!!!

now go eat some greasy food and beer!!!


well "Tribo" my goal with you was to show you that the concept of love was not an emotion but was an illusion of your mind...that's why you couldn't explain why you stop loving Jesus and God when you supposely left christianity ..you notice I said supposely left christianity

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Thu 10/30/08 09:45 AM


well funch you got more life out of this post than i ever thought you would, but that's mainly due to your style of argueing, not because you deserve it - bigsmile

so to answer your question one last time -NO!!!!

now go eat some greasy food and beer!!!


well "Tribo" my goal with you was to show you that the concept of love was not an emotion but was an illusion of your mind...that's why you couldn't explain why you stop loving Jesus and God when you supposely left christianity ..you notice I said supposely left christianity


see my answer on your vampire post - have fun.

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Thu 10/30/08 09:49 AM

see my answer on your vampire post - have fun.


"Tribo"...I read your answer ...yep you are officially a "Chrisitan in denial" ..er.. surely you know this is no secret to anyone but you

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Thu 10/30/08 09:56 AM
i refuse to debate with an admitted greasaholic, till you eneter a 40 step G.A. program and get help, your words are meaningless.


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Thu 10/30/08 10:08 AM
You dont listen to anyone else funch. Its too hard to discuss something let alone debate with anyone who behaves like that.

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Thu 10/30/08 10:10 AM

i refuse to debate with an admitted greasaholic, till you eneter a 40 step G.A. program and get help, your words are meaningless.


"Tribo" what you really mean to say is that God told you not to talk to Satan ..

go in peace my favorite christian in denial

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Thu 10/30/08 10:20 AM

You dont listen to anyone else funch. Its too hard to discuss something let alone debate with anyone who behaves like that.


"Krimsa" Et Tu? ...you're just P-O-ED because I asked you that one question that proves you treat the Big Bang Theory like a religious belief ..you simply cannot explain where the "One Singularity" came from ...it is your God and the answer to where your God came from is not on the internet aka your bible

so don't start displaying "shoot the messenger syndrome" accept the enlightenment my child

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Tue 06/21/11 03:54 PM
I guess I've been out of touch for a bit. But, as it is, funches...

Welllllllllll.... If you think I got my previous long response from Google and cut and pasted it, then I'd certainly enjoy seeing where you got it from.

In my first response, I directly stated that a question which appears so simple on the surface isn't simple at all. Such a superficial question, when answered with a deeper level of understanding simply bypasses the person's understanding who asked the question to begin with.

I guess that since an accusation was leveled at me of plagiarizing some material, then I might have to respond with two thoughts there. First, I'm used to ad hominem attacks, when the person simply doesn't understand what is being presented. Second, I'll ask you to find the material that I supposedly stole. I do, indeed, gather information from elsewhere out on the Web. But, in this instance, I'd truly like to be shown where I stole my information from.

Now, to get to some of the more fun stuff... if you can't bother to read through a post and at least try to understand it, then why do you try to tear down the person who writes it? This shows a great intellectual prowess on your part, indeed. (Note the intended sarcasm) Since you are incapable of dissecting what was written, you simply revert to lashon hera. That's unfortunate as well.

As it is, if one goes back to my original post and reads the first couple of lines, then one can clearly see that what was written, while it was directed at your posting, simply wasn't meant for you to read, since you're undeniably incapable of devoting time to the study of what was presented and taking apart the argument, rather than trying to take apart the person. I enjoy it, though, as I get to talk with an almost inanimate object (you), practicing my writing skills. Trust me, I need a lot of practice.

If you want to respond to this (and you won't hear, see or understand what I'm about to write) then do not respond to this until you've read and understood the view that was solicited. You won't be able to do it, though, as you'll come up with some inane response that shows the true level of your understanding of matters.

If you DO respond to this without having gone through and made the attempt to understand what was written, then I'll get right back to a singularity and harp on the fact that you're incapable of carrying on any sort of deeper discussion, until you do actually force yourself to get back and study more deeply than what you have previously done. Trust me, it's really fun from my standpoint to take up the argument from there, as it gets really easy and redundant.

Oh, btw, I'm not a Christian.

This should be fun.

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Tue 06/21/11 05:50 PM

I guess I've been out of touch for a bit. But, as it is, funches...

Welllllllllll.... If you think I got my previous long response from Google and cut and pasted it, then I'd certainly enjoy seeing where you got it from.

In my first response, I directly stated that a question which appears so simple on the surface isn't simple at all. Such a superficial question, when answered with a deeper level of understanding simply bypasses the person's understanding who asked the question to begin with.

I guess that since an accusation was leveled at me of plagiarizing some material, then I might have to respond with two thoughts there. First, I'm used to ad hominem attacks, when the person simply doesn't understand what is being presented. Second, I'll ask you to find the material that I supposedly stole. I do, indeed, gather information from elsewhere out on the Web. But, in this instance, I'd truly like to be shown where I stole my information from.

Now, to get to some of the more fun stuff... if you can't bother to read through a post and at least try to understand it, then why do you try to tear down the person who writes it? This shows a great intellectual prowess on your part, indeed. (Note the intended sarcasm) Since you are incapable of dissecting what was written, you simply revert to lashon hera. That's unfortunate as well.

As it is, if one goes back to my original post and reads the first couple of lines, then one can clearly see that what was written, while it was directed at your posting, simply wasn't meant for you to read, since you're undeniably incapable of devoting time to the study of what was presented and taking apart the argument, rather than trying to take apart the person. I enjoy it, though, as I get to talk with an almost inanimate object (you), practicing my writing skills. Trust me, I need a lot of practice.

If you want to respond to this (and you won't hear, see or understand what I'm about to write) then do not respond to this until you've read and understood the view that was solicited. You won't be able to do it, though, as you'll come up with some inane response that shows the true level of your understanding of matters.

If you DO respond to this without having gone through and made the attempt to understand what was written, then I'll get right back to a singularity and harp on the fact that you're incapable of carrying on any sort of deeper discussion, until you do actually force yourself to get back and study more deeply than what you have previously done. Trust me, it's really fun from my standpoint to take up the argument from there, as it gets really easy and redundant.

Oh, btw, I'm not a Christian.

This should be fun.


dude you pull up a thread to ramble about something I posted to you three years old.....wow you sure can hold a grudge

but anyway...ask me the question directly or let go of the anger


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Tue 06/21/11 06:01 PM


..the main problem i see with religion as a whole was that it was written by man,what was put into the bible and what was left out ..man again..so if one was to believe in God,is it really their belief or a belief in what man has written about God,especially when

one looks at things that were omitted,and one has to ask themselves who gave these people the right to decide on what went into the bible and what was left out...man..makes me ponder whether God made man ..or man made God in his image to suit his belief at the

time..and others just followed along..tho it talks about false prophets no one gave a time line..if we only knew the real truth than maybe there would be a better understanding..and with that less room to debate that which we really have no true knowledge of,other than what we think we know..by what man wrote..man always seems to have an agenda that which suits him best..i don't believe i can put my trust in that..nor faith..for man has proven over time that he's not to be trusted..no matter what his position lest i talk of pedophile priest

..i do not view myself as a blasphemer,or an atheist,but more of a searcher of the truth,with no time to debate that which i have no true knowledge of..seems like a waste of time trying to get others to see things or believe things the way i do..after all..to each his own..we may find in the vastness of the universe that we are no more than an atom..but we think we are more because thats the way we were made to think through creation..but what do i know other than what i think i know until proven...smokin jmo


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