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Topic: Legalize Marijuana?
Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 11/15/08 10:47 PM


Yea remember when the Govt. sprayed poisen on it. Paraquat I believed they call it. They went down to Old Mexico and did it.. If I remember right


Yeah, there was a big stink about that. They sprayed the crops in Mexico.


yea knowing the youth here would probally be smoking it

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 11/15/08 10:57 PM



Yea remember when the Govt. sprayed poisen on it. Paraquat I believed they call it. They went down to Old Mexico and did it.. If I remember right


Yeah, there was a big stink about that. They sprayed the crops in Mexico.


yea knowing the youth here would probally be smoking it




[edit] Paraquat Pot
During the late 1970s, a controversial program sponsored by the US government sprayed paraquat on marijuana fields in Mexico.[12] Since much of this marijuana was subsequently smoked by Americans, the US government's "Paraquat Pot" program stirred much debate. Perhaps in an attempt to deter people from using marijuana, representatives of the program warned that spraying rendered the crop unsafe to smoke.

However, independent bodies have studied paraquat in this use. Jenny Pronczuk de Garbino, [13] stated: "no lung or other injury in marijuana users has ever been attributed to Paraquat contamination". On this topic, D.P. Morgan states in a United States Environmental Protection Agency publication that: "Smoking Paraquat-contaminated marijuana does not result in lung damage as the herbicide is pyrolyzed to dipyridyl (which does not present a toxic hazard) during smoking". [14]

The EPA's glossary of terms defines Paraquat as "A standard herbicide used to kill various types of crops, including marijuana. Causes lung damage if smoke from the crop is inhaled."[15] Since Paraquat is a popular herbicide for Tobacco as well, more research is needed into its effects.


Winx's photo
Sun 11/16/08 12:08 AM




Yea remember when the Govt. sprayed poisen on it. Paraquat I believed they call it. They went down to Old Mexico and did it.. If I remember right


Yeah, there was a big stink about that. They sprayed the crops in Mexico.


yea knowing the youth here would probally be smoking it




[edit] Paraquat Pot
During the late 1970s, a controversial program sponsored by the US government sprayed paraquat on marijuana fields in Mexico.[12] Since much of this marijuana was subsequently smoked by Americans, the US government's "Paraquat Pot" program stirred much debate. Perhaps in an attempt to deter people from using marijuana, representatives of the program warned that spraying rendered the crop unsafe to smoke.

However, independent bodies have studied paraquat in this use. Jenny Pronczuk de Garbino, [13] stated: "no lung or other injury in marijuana users has ever been attributed to Paraquat contamination". On this topic, D.P. Morgan states in a United States Environmental Protection Agency publication that: "Smoking Paraquat-contaminated marijuana does not result in lung damage as the herbicide is pyrolyzed to dipyridyl (which does not present a toxic hazard) during smoking". [14]

The EPA's glossary of terms defines Paraquat as "A standard herbicide used to kill various types of crops, including marijuana. Causes lung damage if smoke from the crop is inhaled."[15] Since Paraquat is a popular herbicide for Tobacco as well, more research is needed into its effects.




Uh-oh, they're using it for tobacco and they need more research?!.scared

pandalady's photo
Sun 11/16/08 12:37 AM
Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sun 11/16/08 08:55 AM
It is one more thing that when i talk or whatever with people they believe it should be legalized,taed and controlled.

So WE THE PEOPLE. is another example of our media dominant upper socialites who run us and the Media is the outlet to control what we believe ,do and act. Them being the final judge.

PDA's photo
Mon 11/17/08 12:10 AM

Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.

RoamingOrator's photo
Mon 11/17/08 07:58 AM


Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:

Lets say you want to score a lid of heroin. You talk to this guy on the street, he has some and sells it to you. Now a cop sees this whole thing go down, so here is how it is going to work. The cop will come over, arrest the dealer and send the user home, with his drugs. You see they only prosecute the dealer, the casual user, well he is allowed free treatment at a clinic or free needles from the government.

Pot is the same way, with the exception that the government allows for sales in certain designated places. It's not like restuarant or bar and blow a doobie over there. They want you to do it at home, or in desginated places.

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 11/17/08 08:44 AM

What do you think? Alcohol is legal and is also very bad for you. So should marijuana be legalized?


It needs to be legalized but on a small scale, this way it will allow laboratories to do studies on it. With the current laws few if any labs can actually do studies on it, if we can pass this hurdle we can become a lot like the UK or Canada where it is found to be less lethal than assumed.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/5129.html -Cancer

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth6.shtml -Myths most were taught in school

noblenan's photo
Mon 11/17/08 05:50 PM
IMO
No user should want it legalized. It would be regulated so it would be more expensive and less potent, just like alcohol. It should be decriminalized.

glasses

no photo
Mon 11/17/08 08:20 PM

IMO
No user should want it legalized. It would be regulated so it would be more expensive and less potent, just like alcohol. It should be decriminalized.

glasses
Isnt the price "HIGH" alreadylaugh

shindo66's photo
Mon 11/17/08 08:32 PM
this question is easy...
the US government is solely responsible for the sale of heroin and cocaine, they don't go up the ladder to try to stop it, they go up the ladder to arrest people not on the inside to ensure a monopoly on the product. They can't hold a monopoly on weed, its too easy to grow and doesn't require processing. If weed were legal and obtainable easily, very few people would go to the harder stuff. I know where to get coke simply because i know where to get weed. If i could go to the corner store to buy a bag, i would never be exposed to the black market. Its funny, because how many people right now laugh at the thought that the government would be responsible for the importing of drugs, but they don't realize just how much of the stuff is even in this country and how impossible it would be for a "drug lord" to actually supply that amount and stay under the radar. (Either the fed is doing it, or they are completely incompetent) They literally take the trillion in profits and dump it in the stock market to keep the economy going. If those profits went to drug lords it would suck. So there's your answer, it will never, ever, ever happen, its just simple economics.

Filmfreek's photo
Mon 11/17/08 08:40 PM



Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:

Lets say you want to score a lid of heroin. You talk to this guy on the street, he has some and sells it to you. Now a cop sees this whole thing go down, so here is how it is going to work. The cop will come over, arrest the dealer and send the user home, with his drugs. You see they only prosecute the dealer, the casual user, well he is allowed free treatment at a clinic or free needles from the government.

Pot is the same way, with the exception that the government allows for sales in certain designated places. It's not like restuarant or bar and blow a doobie over there. They want you to do it at home, or in desginated places.


Have you actually been to Amsterdam? I was there last year and people were smoking joints everywhere. The smell was obvious. But yeah, they prefer you smoke in your hotel room or coffee shop, but the cops wont arrest you if you bend those rules.

You're right about the hard drug abusers though. They will go after them, and sometimes they will arrest the tourist who is trying to buy the drugs on the street.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:21 PM



Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:

Lets say you want to score a lid of heroin. You talk to this guy on the street, he has some and sells it to you. Now a cop sees this whole thing go down, so here is how it is going to work. The cop will come over, arrest the dealer and send the user home, with his drugs. You see they only prosecute the dealer, the casual user, well he is allowed free treatment at a clinic or free needles from the government.

Pot is the same way, with the exception that the government allows for sales in certain designated places. It's not like restuarant or bar and blow a doobie over there. They want you to do it at home, or in desginated places.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:



Where do you get your information at?

I have had several friends who were stationed over thier at an F-15 base.

They all came back with the same story.


Prostitutes were like widow shopping at JC Pennys.


They were in the widows for you to pick.


They had stores where they would have testing tables out of all kinds of drugs. You could test a little before you buy.

They mainly spoke about the Hash and how good it was.

I can not see it being illegal then have downtown headshops to try and buy.

Unless it is like the States you can buy paraphalia but if you ever use it then get caught with it . Go to jail do not pass go


noblenan's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:22 PM


IMO
No user should want it legalized. It would be regulated so it would be more expensive and less potent, just like alcohol. It should be decriminalized.

glasses
Isnt the price "HIGH" alreadylaugh


Not factoring for inflation... :thumbsup:

no photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:25 PM




Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:

Lets say you want to score a lid of heroin. You talk to this guy on the street, he has some and sells it to you. Now a cop sees this whole thing go down, so here is how it is going to work. The cop will come over, arrest the dealer and send the user home, with his drugs. You see they only prosecute the dealer, the casual user, well he is allowed free treatment at a clinic or free needles from the government.

Pot is the same way, with the exception that the government allows for sales in certain designated places. It's not like restuarant or bar and blow a doobie over there. They want you to do it at home, or in desginated places.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:



Where do you get your information at?

I have had several friends who were stationed over thier at an F-15 base.

They all came back with the same story.


Prostitutes were like widow shopping at JC Pennys.


They were in the widows for you to pick.


They had stores where they would have testing tables out of all kinds of drugs. You could test a little before you buy.

They mainly spoke about the Hash and how good it was.

I can not see it being illegal then have downtown headshops to try and buy.

Unless it is like the States you can buy paraphalia but if you ever use it then get caught with it . Go to jail do not pass go




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_Cup

noblenan's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:25 PM

this question is easy...
the US government is solely responsible for the sale of heroin and cocaine, they don't go up the ladder to try to stop it, they go up the ladder to arrest people not on the inside to ensure a monopoly on the product. They can't hold a monopoly on weed, its too easy to grow and doesn't require processing. If weed were legal and obtainable easily, very few people would go to the harder stuff. I know where to get coke simply because i know where to get weed. If i could go to the corner store to buy a bag, i would never be exposed to the black market. Its funny, because how many people right now laugh at the thought that the government would be responsible for the importing of drugs, but they don't realize just how much of the stuff is even in this country and how impossible it would be for a "drug lord" to actually supply that amount and stay under the radar. (Either the fed is doing it, or they are completely incompetent) They literally take the trillion in profits and dump it in the stock market to keep the economy going. If those profits went to drug lords it would suck. So there's your answer, it will never, ever, ever happen, its just simple economics.


Interesting thought process!:thumbsup:

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:29 PM





Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:

Lets say you want to score a lid of heroin. You talk to this guy on the street, he has some and sells it to you. Now a cop sees this whole thing go down, so here is how it is going to work. The cop will come over, arrest the dealer and send the user home, with his drugs. You see they only prosecute the dealer, the casual user, well he is allowed free treatment at a clinic or free needles from the government.

Pot is the same way, with the exception that the government allows for sales in certain designated places. It's not like restuarant or bar and blow a doobie over there. They want you to do it at home, or in desginated places.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:



Where do you get your information at?

I have had several friends who were stationed over thier at an F-15 base.

They all came back with the same story.


Prostitutes were like widow shopping at JC Pennys.


They were in the widows for you to pick.


They had stores where they would have testing tables out of all kinds of drugs. You could test a little before you buy.

They mainly spoke about the Hash and how good it was.

I can not see it being illegal then have downtown headshops to try and buy.

Unless it is like the States you can buy paraphalia but if you ever use it then get caught with it . Go to jail do not pass go




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_Cup


Wow!

Filmfreek's photo
Mon 11/17/08 09:31 PM




Take it from someone who came up in the 60's and 70's legalization is never going to happen. That is not going to stop any of us from smoking. I have always been up front with the people I worked for about it too. Point blank, I will never pass a drug test. I also would tell any interviewer why and also that I would never do it during working hours. But just as they go home and have that drink before they have their supper or after or both I am going to hit the pipe. Being honest about it never stopped me from getting a job either. Maybe in your grandkids time they will see it legalized but I don't see it happening anytime soon.smokin smokin smokin smokin smokin


I don't think it'll happen soon either, but i speak of Denmark and Finland now, and the people are up for getting it legalized, and that includes the non-smokers as well. So you never know if they might actually do as done in Amsterdam.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:

Lets say you want to score a lid of heroin. You talk to this guy on the street, he has some and sells it to you. Now a cop sees this whole thing go down, so here is how it is going to work. The cop will come over, arrest the dealer and send the user home, with his drugs. You see they only prosecute the dealer, the casual user, well he is allowed free treatment at a clinic or free needles from the government.

Pot is the same way, with the exception that the government allows for sales in certain designated places. It's not like restuarant or bar and blow a doobie over there. They want you to do it at home, or in desginated places.


I might remind folks that drugs aren't legal in Amsterdam. The just do not prosecute people for simple possession. Let me give you an example:



Where do you get your information at?

I have had several friends who were stationed over thier at an F-15 base.

They all came back with the same story.


Prostitutes were like widow shopping at JC Pennys.


They were in the widows for you to pick.


They had stores where they would have testing tables out of all kinds of drugs. You could test a little before you buy.

They mainly spoke about the Hash and how good it was.

I can not see it being illegal then have downtown headshops to try and buy.

Unless it is like the States you can buy paraphalia but if you ever use it then get caught with it . Go to jail do not pass go




Your friends gave you a bs story. If they were in the military, how could they smoke anyway? Don't they get drug tested?

Trust me. I was there. Marijuana, Hash, and Shrooms are 100% legal there, and the cops could care less about paraphenilia.

There is no "try & buy" at coffeeshops. They give you a sample to view and smell, and they will give you recommendations, but they wont let you sample it. At least none of the places I went to would.

They were right about the hookers there though. It's just like window shopping.

warmachine's photo
Wed 11/19/08 05:28 AM
Legalize it for the Economy.

You'll save family farms, you'll save billions on the unwinnable war against drugs, you'll save billions more by releasing and no longer prosecuting potheads. Nevermind that the ethanol that can be made from hemp is quicker to make and more potent than burning our food. Plastics and clothing can be made from it cheaply as well, not to mention rope.

Not only that, but you'll be taking a huge source of revenue away from organized crime, gangs.
Cannabinoids have been shown to be useful for all sorts of different medical situations and it's been shown that the body makes small levels of Cannabinoids on its own anyway.

If you're a fiscal conservative, you should support the decriminalization of all drugs and the legalization of pot. We've spent trillions since Nixons declaration that drug use is public enemy number one in the 70's and what have we got? Federal spending out of control, more violence, more harmful drugs showing up to take the place of the less harmful newly illegal ones and No end in sight.

Moondark's photo
Wed 11/19/08 05:37 AM
When comparing pot to alcohol, people who smoke pot are less likely to decide to get in their cars and drive home.

Drug related crimes mostly involve the hard drugs. Pot users tend to be just to mellow to be bothered with that amount of drama and effort.

Pot use, for the most part, just takes up a whole lot of court time and jail space. If you take out those costs, pot doesn't cost this country as much as alcohol or other drugs do.

Save money, Save time, focus on the really important things. Legalize the stuff.

PS. I'm not a pot user. I never have, the smell of it gives me massive migraines and makes me feel sick to my stomach.

I just think that in the grand scheme of things, having something less damaging that alcohol be illegal seems very silly.

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