Is your mind your brain?


Is that bunch of cells that fire and misfire on electrical impulses, your mind?

So if one says they are losing their mind, they are losing their brain?

Mind your manners?...is that brain your manners?


Or is the brain but an organic sponge?

And the mind... the what people like to consider, their Self?

Is mind Self, or is Mind brain?

Or is it all the same?

What about when a mind has a mind of its own ... who is minding the mind?

check out Eckhart Toole....he breaks it down pretty good,..

you are not your brain,.( mind ) it is no different than any other organ in your body,.. your thoughts come from your brain/mind,..but you are not your thoughts,.you are the spaces in- between,..

I better go minding my own brain now.

the mind is

what you use your brain for


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a car is not a race car

until you race with it

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a brain is not a mind

until you think with it

None of the above.

Self, mind and brain are three different things.

Mind your step. Don't trip over the Esky.



Self, Mind, and Brain - 3 different words.

explain plz

easy to say x y and z

but what do you see

Mind your step think about where yer walking

Don't trip over the Esky. you could get hurt

that is using you brain thus it is changed to your mind

Ok.

Self is a non-physical entity that is usally located within or near the body. It is what makes decisions and forms opinions. It is not dependent upon either the mind or the brain for it's existence.

Mind is an information processing mechanism. It is what evaluates, calculates, stores and retrives data. The data it stores and processes includes sense perceptions, imaginations, opinions, decisions, and the results of mental processes. It is not dependent upon the physical body for it's existence. The mind receives input from both the self and the body and can generate output (stimuli) to the body.

Brain is an organ of the body, just like the heart or lung. It reacts to stimuli from both the body and the mind. Some of those reactions result in permanent or semi-permanent changes in the physical structure of the brain.

That's what I see.

Sky,

Regarding this response describing the "Self"...



"Making" and "forming" require perception

Perception without the physiological senses which necessitate it's existence?

Hey Sky,
I was just gonna read but then I saw this.

Wow, a self (entity) that is not dependent on a physical body or the non-physical mind.

A mind that is a processing mechanism that evaluates, calculates, stores and retrieves data?
It, the mind, stores images, opinions, decisions, and the results of mental processes.

The mind also recieves input from the non-physical self and the physical body.

Please explain what the three 'things' Self, body, and mind are components of?

If mind and Self are not dependent on each other nor either of them on the body, then what it the commonality that brings them together and keeps them together until the the demise of the body?

Also, what is it that you think has free will? Is it the mind, the self or the body? Are any of the three bound by determinism? (perhaps the physical body?)

What happens to the self when body dies and mind is no longer required as the input/output processing unit between the two? What happens to mind when it has neither body or self to use it?

Can self have an identity if it separates from mind? Does personality play a part in any of the three?

Sorry - but my mind just started and the questions keep coming.

Thanks for whatever time you take to respond, I'm curious.

Well, first of all, we don't have an agreement as to whether or not "making" or "forming" require perception. But that's not the issue.

Yes, I'm saying that perception does not require physiological senses. At least not what I'm talking about when I say "perception".

Hi Redy, good to see you. It’s been a while.


I’m not sure I understand the question, but I think the best answer for it is – what science calls “a life form”.

The decision of self. (Note: Mind isdependent upon self for it’s existence. If I gave the impression that it was not, I’m sorry for misleading you. Mind is created by self. But body is not dependent upon either. It can exist without mind or self. In this sense, it sort of has “a mind of its own” which is what science refers to as the mind. It is the aggregate of the stimulus response mechanisms built into the DNA and altered over time at the cellular level by the environment.)

Yes, the self is what has free will. It is not bound by determinism. The body is bound by determinism just like any other physical thing. The mind could be said to be bound by determinism, but that’s only because it is created to be that way by the self.

When the body dies, the mind is retained by the self. The self could either occupy another body, or not.

That’s difficult to answer as stated. Normally “identity” is associated with the physical body. Photo IDs, thumb prints, DNA, retina – all these things add up to an “identity” in our society. So in that sense, an “identity” implies that something must do the identifying and something must be identified. But self can exist independently of anything else, so it would not make any difference if self was separated from mind or not. But if you’re asking if self would be “self-aware” without a mind, then the answer is yes.

What we call personality is a combination of two things: the stimulus-response portions of the mind, which includes input from the body, and the personal desires or “tastes” of the self.



My pleasure and thank you for asking for and listening to my opinion.

sounds a lot like a theological point of view

yet to debate it as such would be counter productive

not saying i agree

but is very thought provoking

The decision of self. (Note: Mind isdependent upon self for it’s existence. If I gave the impression that it was not, I’m sorry for misleading you. Mind is created by self. But body is not dependent upon either. It can exist without mind or self. In this sense, it sort of has “a mind of its own” which is what science refers to as the mind. It is the aggregate of the stimulus response mechanisms built into the DNA and altered over time at the cellular level by the environment.)

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plz explian

looks contradictory to me

I see some typos that might be confusing so I'll fix those and try to expound on what else I think might be thought of as contradictory...

Mind is dependent upon self for it’s existence, because self creates the mind. Sort of like you might build your own computer.

Body is not dependent upon either mind or self. It can exist without mind or self, similar to how a plant can grow and live without a gardener to tend it. There are stimulus-response mechnisms build into the DNA of the plant that determine how the plant will react to things in it's environment. That could be thought of as a primitive mind, although it has no capability for original thought. Just reaction to stimuli.

Does that help?

The mind is merely the seat of the conciousness. Having had a near death exprience and surviving a diabetic comatose i can speak to the individual having a brain but lacking a sense of mind as it were. Since i went into a coma my brain lost its conciousness but the brain continued to function and support the body. Yet i have memories of sensations and experiences despite my brain not having its mind as it were. We arrive at a paradox here. If memories are part of the mind and since my mind was absent during the comatose, is it not plausible to state then that the mind can also be absent from the brain. My sensei told me this when i put the question to him. The brain and body are like a car. They merely act as a place for our mind(thoughts,intents,memories)to reside and interact with the physical world. He then asked me,"Can you not exit the car and still continue to travel on?" The point i think he was trying to make was that the brain and the body can be independent of the mind and the soul.

i am having issue with mind and self

to me mind is self

mind are your thought processes

self is who you are

who your are is determined by your thought process

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brain is a vehicle for function i think we pretty much agree on that one

I would give you a piece of my mind but I think I need as much as I have left.