The plantaion owners loved to quote "Slaves obey your masters". Did that make slavery right? Many things in the bible are "conditional". Does a woman have to obey a husband that beats her? No. Did the disciples quit preaching when told to stop? No. Our government is "beating" us black and blue, and part of preaching the gospel is to expose them for who they are!

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Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law
Shocking KSLA 12 news report confirms story we broke last year, Pastors to cite Romans 13 as reason for public to obey government orders, relinquish guns and be taken to camps during state of emergency

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, August 16, 2007


A shocking KSLA news report has confirmed the story we first broke last year, that Clergy Response Teams are being trained by the federal government to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.

In May 2006, we exposed the existence of a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

A whistleblower who was secretly enrolled into the program told us that the feds were clandestinely recruiting religious leaders to help implement Homeland Security directives in anticipation of a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.


The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure.

It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."

Pastors were told that they would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.

Though some doubted the accuracy of this report at the time due to its fundamentally disturbing implications, the story has now been confirmed by a KSLA 12 news report, in which participating clergy and officials admit to the existence of the program.

Watch the video.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/160807_quell_dissent.htm


The report entertains the scenario of martial law as depicted in the movie The Siege and states that "quelling dissent would be critical."

Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff's Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team's mission, "the primary thing that we say to anybody is, 'let's cooperate and get this thing over with and then we'll settle the differences once the crisis is over.'"

Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. "In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to diffuse that situation," assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.

For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, "because the government's established by the Lord, you know. And, that's what we believe in the Christian faith. That's what's stated in the scripture."


So there you have it - Homeland Security are working with local police departments and religious leaders to prepare for the declaration of martial law and in particular developing techniques they will employ during the crisis to "quell dissent."

Phony Christian leaders are brainwashing their congregations to accept the premise that the totalitarian police state is "of the Lord" and that they should get on their knees and lick jackboots while the round-ups take place as citizens are processed into quarantine zones and detention camps by the National Guard and U.S. troops returning from Iraq.


The precedent for mass gun confiscation and martial law in times of a real or manufactured emergency was set during Hurricane Katrina, when police and National Guard patrols forced home owners - even in areas unaffected by the hurricane - to hand over their legally owned firearms at gunpoint.

This is a clear precursor for the imminent declaration of a state of emergency, a scenario that President Bush codified in his recent Presidential Decision Directive of May 9th, which states in the event of a "catastrophic event" the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.

The scope of the program is so secretive that even Homeland Security Committee member and Congressman Peter DeFazio was denied access to view the classified portion of the documents.

nothing in the bible is conditional, as it be only but a telling of prophecy, as to what will, and did, and shall happen???

did it not say not one thing spoken would not come to pass???

so it all be prophecy, NOT COMMANDMENT.

if the book prove itself true, then it need no help from any human to make it be as so???

it only be anything that wish to MAKE things obey itself, that use such words within any text, to declare what be truth or not truth???

no women should ever obey any man, any only men that see not itself is to be submissive first if it see true love, and try to make women submissive, as a dictator of other's live's, as if a women find what is real, and true, then why would she not be submissive to what she love, and what is submissive to her???

all are equal.

what women did jesus make obey himself???

what person did jesus try to make obey himself???

the very notion that there is some power over another human, to force it to obey by coercion with doctrine, is the very premise of all you speak against within any government???

but yet you agree to such unbalanced principle within the relationship of a women and man???

if two do not agree, then two are divided, and if two are divided, each must have the free will and confidence to follow itself, EACH being made in the image of god, MALE AND FEMALE ALIKE.

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I think the premise of your statement is quite accurate, but I would caution against the statement "Many things in the bible are 'conditional'". We live in a world where far too many people believe the Word of God to be conditional in order to justify their bad choices. Go to Romans 13:9 and realize that many might justify as conditional: 1) adultery, because that are really "in love"; 2) stealing, because they are really hungry; 3) bearing false witness, because the person really needs to be punished for offending another; 4) covetness, because they are really poor, etc.

There are many examples in the scriptures against blind obedience to government: Daniel, the three Hebrews, Peter, Paul and other disciples. Even Christ seemed somewhat the need to chastise Peter for agreeing to taxes that should be for the foreigners, not for the children.

Thomas Jefferson stated that to be taxed for something that you do not believe in is tyranny. He also said that would that there were a rebellion every twenty years or so. I need not point out that the Declaration of Independence, which once was the foundation of this country, was replete with reasons why it is our responsibility NOT to blindly follow government.

Romans 13 makes it clear in itself. "For rulers are not a terror to good works..." If they are, we have a responsibility to obey God, not man, and perhaps even die in so doing.

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is god perfect???

is the government blind to good???

if it deemed so, then who made it so???

the only problem with such directed narrow sight of "evil", it being defined to be a total essense of one group, is that this in itself destroy the greater reality, that evil exist in all places, and to make the government as a "evil entity", hide the good that lie therein, as the GOVERNMENT IS NOT GOVERNMENT, BUT PEOPLE JUST AS SELF???

what is evil???

anything that knows not better???

what is knowing better, but having more information???

has one sit in the seat, as president, and seen and heard what has been forecasted by many voice's???

reactionairy defense's against evil as evil, only create more evil???

if there is any notion that there is some evil that exist, then what is it???

anything that try to subvert another's free will, only to suffer itself greater gain or advantage???

is this not something that is not limited to any one group, or any one thing???

is it only what has not seen into it's own mirror of itself, that believe there is anything inherently evil???

if god be perfect, and all powerful, then to not believe that only a nudge from such, can dramatically change many things, is to not truly even believe in the divine, and is only but trying to help god across the street, as if some invalid, so invalid defense's are used???

the tellings of what is evil, cannot be balanced insight, if they do not as well tell of what is good.

Obama is doing the best of all he know's, this fact is for certain.

any cry for revolt, out of self preservation of one, or some, alone, will make one fall prey to many things of only illusionairy fear in due time.

if god is god, and it was said that god blind man, as indeed, it was spoken "god hardened pharoah's heart", and is spoken god be JUST AND FAIR, so then only the sight of WHY such blindness was allowd, to make for GREAT GOOD, EVEN PERFECT BLISSFUL GOOD, can give greater sight to cure any perceieved blindness, and no amount of procuring and trying to preserve self preservation for self, can indeed secure more good, without first seeing such.

The sick part of this is that thousands of preachers have succumbed, either to a sick Nationalism or to greed and have agreed to Judas Goat their flock.

Rome fell after accepting the new testament. There was no coincidence, as it is destructive in it's teachings.

Those who wish to succeed, need not follow it.

did not jesus, when scripture was brought to him, to try to lead him to obey, call it satan???

indeed, such teaching's are of vain man alone, and deny the very essence, of all things ever spoken by any greater wisdom in total, only once leading people's as unto a slaughter.

for indeed, is was spoken man's destiny was to become wise as serpents, and no wise serpent be not wise, until the lion the mind first devoure it unto evil, unto a bleeding lamb, to learn wisdom, but later, the same become as a lion of truth, and wise as a serpent, the lamb and lion now as ONE, not able to be decieved, and all wisdom was birthed, and all as fulfilled.

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Can't get that link... what the heck is prison planet anyway? I can't even get their main page to open to find out.

If this is really happening then who's doing what about it? Ya I am going to trust a preacher to calm me down? Not..

Understanding Romans 13:1-7

How are we going to overcome Romans 13? What was Apostle Paul really saying? The best way to bring understanding on Romans 13 is to ask, "Who was apostle Paul writing to at Rome?" The answer is found at Romans 1:7: Paul was writing to all those in Rome who are "beloved of God, called to be saints." He was not writing to the general population at Rome. He was specifically addressing the "called out ones," the Body of Christ.

If apostle Paul was advocating obedience to secular authorities, then Caesar would have no cause against him. Why would Caesar have Paul beheaded if he was promoting obedience to Rome?

The world loves its own. If Paul belonged to Caesar, Caesar would not want to kill his own. If Paul was promoting "be subject to Caesar," then Paul would be Caesar's friend. You would not kill your own. You don't destroy the very instrument that advertises for you.

The truth is that Apostle Paul was beheaded for promoting a rival government known as the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of Heaven. Already this new government was turning the world upside down. Caesar had Paul killed to help stop this threat to Rome's power.

If Romans 13 does not mean "obey the State," what does it mean? Romans 13 means, "Remember them which have the rule over you," as you will also find at Hebrews 13:7. Since Paul was addressing the saints at Rome, it is logical that he would instruct them to submit to those who look after their souls. It is a reminder to be obedient to the authorities God has placed over His people. For they are truly the "ministers of God to thee for good." Unlike worldly rulers, God's ministers are not a terror to good works but to the evil. Therefore, "do that which is good and thou shalt have praise of the same."

http://romans13.embassyofheaven.com/understanding.htm

just something to think about

so the pastors would be taking it out of context then...therefore i don't hold those pastors credible if in fact they are doing this

every essence garnering all current world events, is to bring the world to a knowing of how are as equal, and made as equal, in the sight of god, if one believe in god, and if one does not, then it is also only too evident, in all human history, only equality was ever not devoured itself.

It's alway about religion .... ugh

it's about people warping things and power hungry....putin

If only I could make sense of what your saying david. I hope you aren't one of the preachers, or I am in trouble, no wait, your in trouble.. lol

Well the warping started so long ago, there's no making sense of it ever. And who you calling putin you putin...

I'm putin TANG lol

yes....people warp many things for their own agenda. the passage though was taken out of context....and yes...i have incountered churches that tend to do that

i am embrace all scrutiny of my words, to the most microscopic detail, and seek to embrace all trouble, any suffering, all consequence, all questioning, of the speaking of such words, in this world, and the world to soon become as reality...

i did leave out a word, and have inserted it, in CAPS, which should help, lol...

peace to peace