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Topic: suffering
yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:06 PM
without judging what others would do...I would like to know how people here handle someone suffering. whether it's physical, emotional, mental etc.

I know I pray and try to do what I can to help. I know I can't fix the suffering of people.

what do you do? do you send good thoughts? advice?

no photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:09 PM
I try (when I can) to physically do something for them. Whether it be something they asked of me or just showing up with groceries or snacks and cleaning for them or something. If they are far away, I just try to send an encouraging word. I do pray for people, but prefer to show them with some sort of concrete action that I care.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:12 PM
another thought is....when people give money to someone they think is in need...and it turns out they really aren't in need....do you want the money back or just think that you gave for a good reason and what they do with it is on them?

ty heather....i try to help when i can too

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:18 PM
I know some practices send out good thoughts or vibes??? sorry if i'm not stating it correctly.


davidben1's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:19 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Fri 03/13/09 06:20 PM
if it has been perpetuated, that "self goodness" be the goal of human man, than this would subvert the greater good, that was said to be the purpose of human man walking upon the earth, to become WISE AS SERPENTS???

if goodness is followed, no wisdom can ever prevail.

goodness followed lead lambs to a slaugher, wisdom followed bring learning and juctice and peace.

goodness followed bring to apathy, with no accountability of any living thing, even to it's own family, let alone to each and all alive as brother's and sister's.


willy_cents's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:20 PM
I just do stuff for ppl...whether obiously suffering or not, with no judgement nor expectation of a reward. In fact, I hate it when they say thanks

Roco's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:20 PM
if there is a solution to the suffering, than to do something, although words of support are helpful, doing something is even more helpful

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:20 PM

if it has been perpetuated, that "self goodness" be the goal of human man, than this would subvert the greater good that was said to be the purpose of human man walking upon the earth, to become WISE AS SERPENTS???

if goodness is followed, no wisdom can ever prevail.

goodness followed lead lambs to a slaugher, wisdom followed bring learning and juctice and peace.

goodness followed bring to apathy, with no accountability of any living thing, even to it's own family, let alone to each and all alive as brother's and sister's.




augh david....lol please translate for the eloquent impared lol

Rob2882's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:22 PM

if it has been perpetuated, that "self goodness" be the goal of human man, than this would subvert the greater good, that was said to be the purpose of human man walking upon the earth, to become WISE AS SERPENTS???

if goodness is followed, no wisdom can ever prevail.

goodness followed lead lambs to a slaugher, wisdom followed bring learning and juctice and peace.

goodness followed bring to apathy, with no accountability of any living thing, even to it's own family, let alone to each and all alive as brother's and sister's.




I think in laymans terms he means No good deed goes unpunished.

Though I will disagree and say that being a good friend to anyone who needs a shoulder, or just help in general is what makes the world a brighter place.

davidben1's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:23 PM


if it has been perpetuated, that "self goodness" be the goal of human man, than this would subvert the greater good that was said to be the purpose of human man walking upon the earth, to become WISE AS SERPENTS???

if goodness is followed, no wisdom can ever prevail.

goodness followed lead lambs to a slaugher, wisdom followed bring learning and juctice and peace.

goodness followed bring to apathy, with no accountability of any living thing, even to it's own family, let alone to each and all alive as brother's and sister's.




augh david....lol please translate for the eloquent impared lol


sweety, why don't you read it again, and again, and if it does not become clear, then there is nothing in it to be considered???

the first line is all that you seek to have confidence.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:24 PM


if it has been perpetuated, that "self goodness" be the goal of human man, than this would subvert the greater good, that was said to be the purpose of human man walking upon the earth, to become WISE AS SERPENTS???

if goodness is followed, no wisdom can ever prevail.

goodness followed lead lambs to a slaugher, wisdom followed bring learning and juctice and peace.

goodness followed bring to apathy, with no accountability of any living thing, even to it's own family, let alone to each and all alive as brother's and sister's.




I think in laymans terms he means No good deed goes unpunished.

Though I will disagree and say that being a good friend to anyone who needs a shoulder, or just help in general is what makes the world a brighter place.


ty rob. the reward someone gets could be just the good feeling that you care or helped someone. i know there are times i feel "punished" by someone that i have helped (when they asked for help)

that's not easy for me. i don't want thanks or a reward but there are some that hurt so much they turn it around on you.

dunno though

Rob2882's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:27 PM



if it has been perpetuated, that "self goodness" be the goal of human man, than this would subvert the greater good that was said to be the purpose of human man walking upon the earth, to become WISE AS SERPENTS???

if goodness is followed, no wisdom can ever prevail.

goodness followed lead lambs to a slaugher, wisdom followed bring learning and juctice and peace.

goodness followed bring to apathy, with no accountability of any living thing, even to it's own family, let alone to each and all alive as brother's and sister's.




augh david....lol please translate for the eloquent impared lol


sweety, why don't you read it again, and again, and if it does not become clear, then there is nothing in it to be considered???

the first line is all that you seek to have confidence.


Basicaly, doing good is an arrogant thing because you can never be as good as god, and man strives to be the best that they are doing. To subvert God is to invite his wrath which will cause your downfall.

But dont hold me to that because it's been years since I attended a bible study and even have the want to be a 'good christian'.

Being a good person is better in my opinion.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:29 PM
laugh i think there was a "friends" episode about that where she was trying to find a good selfless deed lol. i think she came to that conclusion. the feeling of good can be selfish.

i take that though lol

are there any other beliefs or non-beliefs that can say more about what they do?

coz1976's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:33 PM
advice,my best friends getting a divorce.ohwell

davidben1's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:36 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Fri 03/13/09 06:37 PM
it was said mans destiny was to become wise as serpents, not bleeding lambs, not but seeking only to do good.

in fact, doing good was just as cursed, and said to decieve, if it was to done to try to convince anything itself was good.

or of what was good.

you are right, damn straight, the first was confusing.

ditto's

Rob2882's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:37 PM

advice,my best friends getting a divorce.ohwell


Hope that they and the person they are divorcing try to make it clean as they can.

Other then that, be there for that person, offer to hear them rant on about it, and just be a friend.


yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:37 PM

it was said mans destiny was to become wise as serpents, not bleeding lambs, not but seeking only to do good.

in fact, doing good was just as cursed, and said to decieve, if it was to done to try to convince anything itself was good.

or of what was good.

you are right dame straight, the first was confusing.

ditto's


laugh ok that's bad when you confuse yourself lol

Rob2882's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:39 PM


it was said mans destiny was to become wise as serpents, not bleeding lambs, not but seeking only to do good.

in fact, doing good was just as cursed, and said to decieve, if it was to done to try to convince anything itself was good.

or of what was good.

you are right dame straight, the first was confusing.

ditto's


laugh ok that's bad when you confuse yourself lol


You know, when you get down to brass tacs, it's a vicious circle. and you get very dizzy after a while.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:42 PM
very true. i just try to be there for others when i can. there are times i felt i wish someone could be there for me (even though at the time...there were but couldn't see it)

what about a stranger?

davidben1's photo
Fri 03/13/09 06:43 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Fri 03/13/09 06:44 PM


it was said mans destiny was to become wise as serpents, not bleeding lambs, not but seeking only to do good.

in fact, doing good was just as cursed, and said to decieve, if it was to done to try to convince anything itself was good.

or of what was good.

you are right dame straight, the first was confusing.

ditto's


laugh ok that's bad when you confuse yourself lol


it was not confusing to me, lol...

as of course, this be my reality...

but i indeed needed your input, as heard, to see how to communicate it, and why all perceieved negative, is truly what tell what is better and more.

no positive teach, as all positive is easily seen, and already known by all, lol...

peace to peace


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