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Topic: 21st Century Internment Camps:
warmachine's photo
Mon 04/13/09 11:38 AM




all I have ever asked for was proof or something

Always happy to help you, Rose.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h645/text

Anybody bother looking at the Bill?


That is a well thought out and needed bill.

I see nothing to be afraid of in there!



noway slaphead


You know, Dr. Paul warned the Republicans, on the record, against this sort of carte blanche power growth for the executive and for Government in general, he told them flat that while they think they are doing something good for the team, there's going to come a time that another party or another person will be in control and you might not like what it is that they intend to use those powers for.

I would suggest that those blind loyalist Obama supporters take that advice as well.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 11:53 AM
That bill is not a carte blanche power growth for the executive and for Government in general!

Where do you read that in to it?

It is a plan to better the response of FEMA during a Natural Disaster!

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/13/09 12:54 PM
ok...maybe i'm wrong but as far as Katrina....there was ALOT of looting and crimes there. so why wouldn't they enforce something to try to stop it

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 01:44 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 04/13/09 01:45 PM

That bill is not a carte blanche power growth for the executive and for Government in general!

Where do you read that in to it?

It is a plan to better the response of FEMA during a Natural Disaster!


SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--


(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.


that is pretty much cart Blanche

Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 01:49 PM


That bill is not a carte blanche power growth for the executive and for Government in general!

Where do you read that in to it?

It is a plan to better the response of FEMA during a Natural Disaster!


SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--


(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.


that is pretty much cart Blanche


You should try reading the whole thing and quit reading into it what isnt there.

Twisting facts- exaggerating situations and making judgments—all without a shred of supporting evidence

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 01:58 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 04/13/09 01:59 PM
SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be--

(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

...................................

not sure if (individuals who may use) means clients or those working there?????

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adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 02:01 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 04/13/09 02:02 PM



That bill is not a carte blanche power growth for the executive and for Government in general!

Where do you read that in to it?

It is a plan to better the response of FEMA during a Natural Disaster!


SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--


(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.


that is pretty much cart Blanche


You should try reading the whole thing and quit reading into it what isnt there.

Twisting facts- exaggerating situations and making judgments—all without a shred of supporting evidence


maybe you should not be so quick to judge (where did i twist the fact it was a copy and paste)

any other use means any other use nothing to read into it or out of it it says what it says

Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 02:04 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 04/13/09 02:05 PM
You said,
that is pretty much cart Blanche


That's only if you read something into the bill that isnt there.
That's only if you assume!

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 02:09 PM

You said,
that is pretty much cart Blanche


That's only if you read something into the bill that isnt there.
That's only if you assume!


no it is not assumption is saying it is not going to be used as something

""""(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security."""""

that says if the Secretary of Homeland Security.can use the facility for any use that they feel is appropriate

does it not

thus it is pretty much whatever

did i say they would use it for an inturnment camp

no i did not

obviously you assumed that i said such a thing

so who is the one reading into it

slaphead slaphead

Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 02:34 PM


You said,
that is pretty much cart Blanche


That's only if you read something into the bill that isnt there.
That's only if you assume!


no it is not assumption is saying it is not going to be used as something

""""(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security."""""

that says if the Secretary of Homeland Security.can use the facility for any use that they feel is appropriate

does it not

thus it is pretty much whatever

did i say they would use it for an inturnment camp

no i did not

obviously you assumed that i said such a thing

so who is the one reading into it

slaphead slaphead


I once had to go into N Dakota on a mission while in the Army!
The US gov, with no other place to put them, had taken the criminals released by Castro up there.
They had intended to build a camp to hold them as most were violent criminals purged by Castro from his prisons.
These Cubans rioted. They burned everything. When the Army went back to build the structures back the Cubans attacked the Engineers.
An MP bn was deployed and two Infantry Bns.

We stayed there for 60 days. Mostly beating them off the fences every time they tried to rush it. I think they were eventually split up and relocated to Fed Penitentiaries. This happened in 1980 I think!

Maybe that is what they mean by other, or maybe what they mean is if a terrorist set off a nuke in an American City.
It could mean almost anything!

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 02:56 PM
""""""""""""It could mean almost anything!"""""""""""""""

exactly almost anything (which includes cart blanche)

could you tell me what cart blanche means

carte blanche (kärt bläsh, blänch, blnch)
n. pl. cartes blanches (kärt bläsh, kärts blänch, blnch)
Unrestricted power to act at one's own discretion; unconditional authority: gave the contractor carte blanche to modernize the kitchen.

carte blanche
Noun
complete authority: she's got carte blanche to redecorate

Thesaurus Legend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
Noun 1. carte blanche - complete freedom or authority to act
authority, potency, authorization, authorisation, say-so, dominance - the power or right to give orders or make decisions; "he has the authority to issue warrants"; "deputies are given authorization to make arrests"; "a place of potency in the state"

from free dictionary

and if you take the time to read the post i was making when you posted the remark after the cart blanche post you would see i am not trying to read anything into it

Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 03:01 PM
Now you are at the root of the twist.

It's a twist to assume that the US gov would think about using an internment camp for the confinment of its own innocent citizens.
That is not what the bill says and it would be twisting the intent of the bill to say it does!

Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 03:01 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 04/13/09 03:04 PM
At the least it's a far stretch of the imagination!

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 03:08 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 04/13/09 03:13 PM

Now you are at the root of the twist.

It's a twist to assume that the US gov would think about using an internment camp for the confinment of its own innocent citizens.
That is not what the bill says and it would be twisting the intent of the bill to say it does!


i never said it did as i said in the other post

i was not the one making the assumption all i did was copy and past the following from the bill

______________________________________________

SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure--


(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

________________________________________________

and commented

that is pretty much cart Blanche

__________________________________________________

now could you show me where i said anything in that post that said internment camp
__________________________________________________
you asked in a previous post

..................................................

That bill is not a carte blanche power growth for the executive and for Government in general!

Where do you read that in to it?

It is a plan to better the response of FEMA during a Natural Disaster!

_____________________________________________________-

so i showed you where it said that

you are the one that went on the defensive all i did was answer your post

i said nothing about what their appropriate needs would or could be





Fanta46's photo
Mon 04/13/09 03:42 PM
OK adj!drinker

It's cool!

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/13/09 03:43 PM

OK adj!drinker

It's cool!



drinker drinker

warmachine's photo
Tue 04/14/09 08:11 AM
Debunking strawman fema camps.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-debunks-strawman-fema-camps-bird-flu-trucker-disinfo.html

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/14/09 08:13 AM

ok...maybe i'm wrong but as far as Katrina....there was ALOT of looting and crimes there. so why wouldn't they enforce something to try to stop it


can someone explains this????

warmachine's photo
Tue 04/14/09 08:19 AM


ok...maybe i'm wrong but as far as Katrina....there was ALOT of looting and crimes there. so why wouldn't they enforce something to try to stop it


can someone explains this????



It wasn't about enforcing against looters. They were kicking in peoples doors and taking their guns.

They weren't bringing food and water, they were shooting at people trying to escape.

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