Topic: Ukraine slaps ban on all porn
ThomasJB's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:26 AM

Ukraine slaps ban on all porn

Unless you're sick: Then it's OK

By John Ozimek
Posted in Law, 7th July 2009 09:31 GMT


Opinion Porn is now illegal in the Ukraine, unless used for medicinal purposes. Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko last week signed off on new legislation joining the Ukraine to an ever-lengthening list of countries that have decided to move the censorship goalposts over the last few years, from publication of porn on to simple possession of it.

Ironically, the world may have a bizarre coalition of puritan New Labour and evangeligising Americans to thank for this giant leap forward for moral mankind.

On June 11, the Verkhovna Rada (the Ukrainian parliament) made possession of pornography – not extreme porn, but ANY porn – a criminal offence. It will be punishable by a fine of 850 hryvnia - which our currency converter helpfully reveals is approximately 69 British pounds - or up to three years in prison. As in the UK, this is a significant shift in the law, which previously only concerned itself with those who produced or distributed pornography.

The problem with this legislation is that the only available definition of porn comes from 2003 legislation, which states, according to the English language version of the Kyev Times:

"Pornography is vulgar, candid, cynical, obscene depiction of sexual acts, pursuing no other goal, the explicit demonstration of genitals, unethical elements of the sexual act, sexual perversions, realistic sketches that do not meet moral criteria and offend honour and dignity of the human by inciting low instincts."

It is not clear whether this is a literal translation of confused law – or an attack of "Babel-itis" on the part of that paper.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's Ministry of Justice appears to have complicated the legislation even further by conceding that porn may be retained "for medicinal purposes".

So is this all homegrown? Or is there a wider agenda at work here? Is it mere co-incidence that highly moralistic legislation – on porn and prostitution, for instance - appears to be springing up simultaneously in widely differing countries?

Researchers in the field of sexual relations have complained for some time that the Bush era meant it was impossible to pursue any research – even in the UK - that failed to address issues in ways that aligned with the fairly narrow moral agenda of US neo-conservatives.

Back in the UK, in May 2004, Labour MP David Lepper boasted in parliament of how he and a number of fellow MP’s, concerned by the Graham Coutts case, had put forward a five-point plan to Ministers for controlling extreme porn. The five points were:

* Persuading internet service providers, search engine companies and web hosting companies to block access to extreme porn
* Criminalising the possession of extreme porn
* Better international co-operation in dealing with extreme images on the internet
* A souped up role for Ofcom
* Requiring credit card companies to put a financial squeeze on the providers of extreme images

This plan was received favourably by then Home Secretary, David Blunkett, who raised it in discussion with his counterparts in the United States. The same issues were then raised with countries in the G8 and Europe.

Whilst few countries have put in place all of the above measures, it almost certainly is no co-incidence that many have adopted several of them over the last few years, either following direct representation, or in an effort to curry favour with the West.

Ukrainian moralising may therefore be of a home grown variety, or it may just be the latest example of "me too" bandwagon-jumping. ®

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/ukraine_bans_filth/


I'm starting to feel a little sick. brb I need to take some of my medicine. :wink:

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Tue 07/07/09 09:54 PM
Good...in my opinion, porn needs to go. It is demoralizing and sick. Kinda makes sex ugly. Just a bunch of bumping and grinding and moaning all the while havimg no concern or feeling for the other. Pure filth.

Kat

ThomasJB's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:02 PM

Good...in my opinion, porn needs to go. It is demoralizing and sick. Kinda makes sex ugly. Just a bunch of bumping and grinding and moaning all the while havimg no concern or feeling for the other. Pure filth.

Kat


That's why I prefer homemade porn.

supermike48's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:21 PM
well since my mothers from ukraine. i haved called some family on your post, dont think this report is true.

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:30 PM
Not the porn...:cry:

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:35 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

did anyone else catch the number of British pounds the fine is???

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

ThomasJB's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:39 PM

well since my mothers from ukraine. i haved called some family on your post, dont think this report is true.


Would seem to be true unless all these sources are wrong.

http://www.kyivpost.com/nation/44433

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/y/viktor_a_yushchenko/index.html

http://www.einnews.com/news.php?wid=238271349

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275524

Actually just found all these with a quick google search.

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,610 for Viktor Yushchenko porn banned.

ThomasJB's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:40 PM

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

did anyone else catch the number of British pounds the fine is???

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


Well I knew you would. :laughing:

lonetar25's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:40 PM
never liked ukrainian porn anyway

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:42 PM


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

did anyone else catch the number of British pounds the fine is???

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


Well I knew you would. :laughing:


well...it show's I read the OP...or at least scanned it laugh

as far as pron goes (as long as it's not kiddie porn or rape of any kind)...how does it hurt anyone??? people make the choice to watch it and people make the choice to make it.

I don' get the medicinal porn deal though laugh

ThomasJB's photo
Tue 07/07/09 10:45 PM



rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

did anyone else catch the number of British pounds the fine is???

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


Well I knew you would. :laughing:


well...it show's I read the OP...or at least scanned it laugh

as far as pron goes (as long as it's not kiddie porn or rape of any kind)...how does it hurt anyone??? people make the choice to watch it and people make the choice to make it.

I don' get the medicinal porn deal though laugh


You gotta look at it from an angle. rofl

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 07/08/09 08:36 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Wed 07/08/09 08:37 AM

Good...in my opinion, porn needs to go. It is demoralizing and sick. Kinda makes sex ugly. Just a bunch of bumping and grinding and moaning all the while havimg no concern or feeling for the other. Pure filth.

Kat


And just think, we could make crimminals richer now for putting the billion dollar industry on the black market...

Watch crime, along with government spending to fight the crime increase all because someone thinks its a good idea to force their views of right and wrong on others.

Just wait, the U.S. will try and follow suit before you know it...

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Wed 07/08/09 08:42 AM
I can understand bannin kiddie porn, it's evil an disgustin. I don't understand bannin porn altogether. I don't care for it but if that is what floats someone's boat so be it. Long as I ain't gotta see it.shades