jeesh mr what is taking you so long you claimed i didn't know anything
when i took 5 minute cause i was typing my resonse and in im... its
been 20 now

I tell you what gets me.....the nonbelievers or a good portion of can't
simply discuss religion...they have to state god does not exist rather
than "i do not believe in god". Redykeulous use more intelligence than
any of the non believers that i've seen up to this point, she atleast
makes an attempt to understand our way of thinking rather than proclaim
"god does not exist".

steve ive never said god doesn't exist.. i don't know if s/he does or
doesnt i believe in spirits and i think i'd bemore of a polytheist if i
do choose to accept the view of gods

so your telling me im illiterate are ya girl? watt is GODS WILL
cant ya read properly GIRL ya better go back to school .Simple question
WATT is GODS WILL?

lol no im telling you that the spelling is off.. or maybe i'm confusing
watt .. what is watt ? lol

An argument form silence is no proof at all. Yet this is the basis of
the first Skeptical argument. Josephus doesn't mention Nazareth. But
that's because he was not writting a travel logue. He had no reason to
mention it, it was a very small and unimportant village; almost a bump
in the road, that does not prove that it didn't exist.

Nazareth was a tiny bump on the road. It was only four miles form a
major city (Sarapis) but it was so small only about 35 families lived
there and shared a single family farm, a dray farm, subsisting on only
rain water. It was a tiny insignificant place so there is no reason why
it should be mentioned.


Joesephus doesnt' mention it, but it is mentioned in Antqiuity.


Two mentions in antiquity

"Despite the Hellenization of the general region and the probability
that Greek was known to many people it seems likely that Nazareth
remained a conservative Jewish village. After the Jewish war with the
Romans from AD 66-70 it was necessary to re-settle Jewish priests and
their families. Such groups would only settle in unmixed towns, that is
towns without Gentile inhabitants. According to an inscription
discovered in 1962 in Caesarea Maritima the priests of the order of
Elkalir made their home in Nazareth. This, by the way, is the sole known
reference to Nazareth in antiquity, apart from written Christian
sources... (next paragraph)



((((Some scholars had even believed that Nazareth was a fictitious
invention of the early Christians;)))) the inscription from Caesarea
Maritima proves otherwise." Paul Barnett[BSNT], Behind the Scenes of the
New Testament, IVP:1990, p.42:

Even the judeo-christian historian Hegesippus (late second century)
gives witness to these next-of-kin of the Lord when speaking about a
persecution of the Christians by Emperor Domiziano (81-96 AD) and whose
writings are quoted by Eusebius (IV cent. AD) in his History of the
Church (III,19.20,1-6). Jiulius the African (250 AD) mentions how the
descendents of Jesus were jealous in keeping alive the memory of their
forefathers (a passage quoted by Eusebius in his History of the Church
I,7,13-14). During the persecution in Asia Minor of Emperor Decius
(249-251) a christian maryr, Conon, is brought to trial and he proclaims
in judgement: "I am from Nazareth of Galilee, I am descendent of Christ
to whom I give worship since my forefathers". The Apochryphal writings
too expand this vision about the next-of-kin of the Lord. They gather
the oral traditions of the first Church about Jesus' family, especially
his childhood years, Mary's and Joseph's daily life with Jesus amongst
them.

It is because of Nazareth that "Christ is called the Nazarean and from
which, we who today are called Christians, were called Nazareens"
(Eusebius of Caesaria, early IV cent. AD).
II. Cave dwellings in the area disprove Bible story because Jews would
not live in Caves.



By comparison, Nazareth was tiny, with two or three clans living in 35
homes spread over 2.5 hectares. The homes later were razed by invaders:
What remains are several basement caves, cisterns and silos excavated in
the late 1950s during reconstruction of the Church of the Annunciation.



Nazarene was very small, but not non-existent, not uninhabited, and not
merely one family.

you really know your stuff dontcha girl thanks for the enlightment as to
watt GODS WILL is all about.

Nazarene not Nazereth he was a nazorean and a SSHHIITTLOAD can be
gained and lost in the telling of any yarn.

kariZman,

Nazarene means "of Nazareth".

Jesus the Nazarene = Jesus of Nazareth.

BULLSHIIITT thats just my opinion.SO WATT THE FUK IS GODS WILL.

Karizman....it's down to the letter of the word man...if ya don't spell
it correctly ya won't get to heaven


for all those still praying for enlightenment...........watt=what


lmao!

Dead sea Scroll are every book of the old testament except the book of
Ester, No New Testament writing just Old Testement word for
word....

kariZ, Hey, man, I missed a lot, well sort of, actually saw a great
basketball game - The Fever in Indianapolis.

Ok now about Gods will. Kariz, Gods will is not known, I don't
understand why everyone has trouble answering this question. At the end
of a prayer have you ever heard anyone ever say "And I know your will,
praise be to Jesus, Amen" /??? NO, cos no matter what anyone 'thinks'
they know, they can't know the answer to this question, this is why at
the end of prayer, they simply sigh and say "Thy will be done". It's a
way they show subserviance to the power of God. For No matter what that
will may be they are forced, by their very acceptance of God, as a
supreme entity, to bow to, and accept that will. The reasoning behind
their being able to accept this unknowing, is because God knows
everything and they do not. So maybe God seems to have given you a hard
time, but you can't know that there is not some 'bigger' reason behind
this, so therefor, you must simply accept, well, whatever.

Scary - isn't it?

For Me Kariz, for 35 years I've been asking a similiar question, and I
have yet to get a logical answer. My qustion goes something like this.
How does a creator, that has no mass, other than pure energy, has no
form, think on a level and then create of that level of a physical
universe? And then suddenly appears to have totally human attributes,
such as anger, wrath, love, and jealousy. First of all, there are
supposed to be no other creatures like God, second of all and the
biggest question I have is - is it not our human attributed, anger,
wrath, love and jealousy that make us imperfect?

What kind of 'perfect' trust can there ever truely be for a God who has
human emotions. No wonder that its' will is not known, for it is
subject to the kind of emotions that make humans imperfect. In the end
there is nothing we could even attempt to string together from any
religion that could tell us the will of God. No one can evern tell you
who will be saved to live in eternal bliss, because in the end, it is
strictly "up to God and It's will.

So Kariz, do yo know something you're not telling us, perhaps God has
spoken to you, perhaps you are simply posing this question as
inspiration from God, as another one of the many tests that it seems
must be passed without understanding why, except of course, that it is
God's will.

Well?

Not so is the Dead Sea scrolls just old testement.

There are New Testement fragements also found amoung the caves. (Cave 4)
Most of which were taken by the Vatican through a Friar of the Domincan
Order who was sent to the site to take control in the name of the
Vatican. The Vatican placed those scrolls (some 55 of them,there is no
well kept record of the exact number but that number was known to be
present at the time they took control) under a Vatican Secrets edict.

There is also a fragement of the gospel of Mark that was found in a
different cave however the Vatican disputes it as a authentic piece of
the gospel of Mark. It was dated at 4 AD.

I hope you didn't get that info from "The Divinci Code" Bro
I happen to know there only Old Testament

The Davinci Code claimed there were New Testament books that concaltine
left out. Well Conceltiene didnt put the bible togather in the first
place. I got my info from the Pentecostal assemblies of God in Riverside
Ca. a seminare to despute The Davinci Code it was presented by a Harvard
scoler and leader of the church He told the myth that there was New
Testament Books is false the dead sea scrolls are every old testament
book accept the book of Ester.