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Topic: Real enemies of the traditional family
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Mon 08/31/09 10:53 AM
Bob McDonnell Used to Think that Feminists and Homosexuals Were Scary
by Michael A. Jones

Published August 31, 2009 @ 08:04AM PT

Bob McDonnell is currently running as the GOP candidate for Governor in Virginia. His current campaign literature talks about how he's worked hard to lower taxes and enact "tough on crime" policies. What they don't tell you is that before he became a politician, he was a student at Regent University (founded by Pat Robertson), and that he wrote a thesis arguing that feminists were "real enemies of the traditional family" and that government should favor married heterosexuals over "cohabitators, homosexuals or fornicators."

It's been nearly 20 years since McDonnell wrote the thesis, but one certainly has to wonder: Does he still believe in these radical right-wing policies?

Among the other issues championed by McDonnell in his thesis is covenent marriage (which makes it harder to all couples to obtain divorces), and bans on contraception for unmarried people (McDonnell himself referred to a Supreme Court decision in the 1970s legalizing contraception as "illogical").

McDonnell also argued that public schools should teach Judeo-Christian values, and that religion should influence more avenues of government. "Leaders must correct the conventional folklore about the separation of church and state," McDonnell wrote. "Historically, the religious liberty guarantees of the First Amendment were intended to prevent government encroachment upon the free church, not eliminate the impact of religion on society."

Interestingly enough, in his current campaign for Governor, McDonnell is trying to water down some of his rather conservative positions - whether they were questioning if LGBT people could serve as public officials, or saying that working women harmed their families. Why the cover up? Because it's a whole lot easier to get elected if people don't think you're anti-woman, anti-gay, and a proponent of the type of policies that Pat "The U.S. deserved 9/11 because of tolerance of homosexuality" Robertson supports.

Article found here

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Mon 08/31/09 10:56 AM
noway slaphead

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Mon 08/31/09 11:24 AM
If this happened 20 days ago, it would make it more interesting..

20 years ago... Hmmmm..

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Mon 08/31/09 11:55 AM

If this happened 20 days ago, it would make it more interesting..

20 years ago... Hmmmm..


I don't know many religious conservatives that change their views in 20 years, do you? Though I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since I don't know him personally but as recently as 2001, he voted against a resolution in support of ending wage discrimination between men and women. I call that outdated thinking, but I'd still have to see more about him today.

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Mon 08/31/09 11:57 AM
just because he wrote and defended his dissertation doesn't mean he believes it...

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Mon 08/31/09 11:59 AM

just because he wrote and defended his dissertation doesn't mean he believes it...


Dangerous to entertain this and find out after he holds office that he does.

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Mon 08/31/09 12:04 PM
To use a wise old quote from BHO;
I'm sure that's not what he meant.laugh laugh laugh


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Mon 08/31/09 12:06 PM

To use a wise old quote from BHO;
I'm sure that's not what he meant.laugh laugh laugh




You really are obsessed with Obama, aren't you. Not everything is about Obama if you read the title of this thread.

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Mon 08/31/09 12:10 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 08/31/09 12:18 PM
My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
I see nothing traditional about homosexuality and is contrary to family values.

What's yours?

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Mon 08/31/09 12:18 PM

My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


Wow big surprise. I have been with my partner for almost 29 years now, about 15 longer than any of my straight friends, so you clearly don't know the difference between commitment and shack-ups.

Physically, because of a miscarriage I can't have kids, wanna make something of that too? Or hell maybe that's Obama's fault too.

Oh and by the way shackups are pretty traditional in both camps and always have been. Except for those who pretend it isn't so.

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Mon 08/31/09 12:19 PM

My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


There's no one "traditional family", even if you look to the bible as a source. What you consider a "traditional family" is a result of urbanization and various other trends that make life in one location possible. (not that I'm disparaging you, of course)

The function of a family is progenation and transmission of values/norms, and a number of groups can provide that.

Just my 2 cents.

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Mon 08/31/09 12:32 PM


My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


Wow big surprise. I have been with my partner for almost 29 years now, about 15 longer than any of my straight friends, so you clearly don't know the difference between commitment and shack-ups.

Physically, because of a miscarriage I can't have kids, wanna make something of that too? Or hell maybe that's Obama's fault too.

Oh and by the way shackups are pretty traditional in both camps and always have been. Except for those who pretend it isn't so.


29 years and here on a dating site? Makes ya' wanna' say hmmmm.

I guess I missed the class that teaches sodomy is traditional and acceptable. My bad.

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Mon 08/31/09 12:36 PM

My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
I see nothing traditional about homosexuality and is contrary to family values.

What's yours?


Mt family consists of myself and my 3 sons.... however a dear friend of mine considers her, her longtime female partner and their adopted son her family.
And no we are not traditional...thank God! drinker

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Mon 08/31/09 12:43 PM



My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


Wow big surprise. I have been with my partner for almost 29 years now, about 15 longer than any of my straight friends, so you clearly don't know the difference between commitment and shack-ups.

Physically, because of a miscarriage I can't have kids, wanna make something of that too? Or hell maybe that's Obama's fault too.

Oh and by the way shackups are pretty traditional in both camps and always have been. Except for those who pretend it isn't so.


29 years and here on a dating site? Makes ya' wanna' say hmmmm.

I guess I missed the class that teaches sodomy is traditional and acceptable. My bad.


Oh now what? Traditional folks don't enjoy forums on dating sites if they are married? Does everyone that comes here come here for a date? I don't think so.

If you read my profile you would have seen that I am not here to find a date, no interested. Man made tradition, not everyone wants or feels the need to be like everyone else.

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Mon 08/31/09 12:44 PM


My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
I see nothing traditional about homosexuality and is contrary to family values.

What's yours?


Mt family consists of myself and my 3 sons.... however a dear friend of mine considers her, her longtime female partner and their adopted son her family.
And no we are not traditional...thank God! drinker



drinker

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Mon 08/31/09 12:52 PM
I'm not traditional myself. I'm divorced with one child. but if someone wants "traditional" families for themselves...that is their choice. And as long as people don't push their views on me...it's all good....JMO

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Mon 08/31/09 01:04 PM

I'm not traditional myself. I'm divorced with one child. but if someone wants "traditional" families for themselves...that is their choice. And as long as people don't push their views on me...it's all good....JMO

Quoting Sotomayor;
Yeah, that's what I meant to say.laugh laugh laugh flowerforyou

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Mon 08/31/09 01:05 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Mon 08/31/09 01:05 PM



My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


Wow big surprise. I have been with my partner for almost 29 years now, about 15 longer than any of my straight friends, so you clearly don't know the difference between commitment and shack-ups.

Physically, because of a miscarriage I can't have kids, wanna make something of that too? Or hell maybe that's Obama's fault too.

Oh and by the way shackups are pretty traditional in both camps and always have been. Except for those who pretend it isn't so.


29 years and here on a dating site? Makes ya' wanna' say hmmmm.

I guess I missed the class that teaches sodomy is traditional and acceptable. My bad.


You may want a traditional family or relationship, but why would it bother you if others don't?

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Mon 08/31/09 01:13 PM




My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


Wow big surprise. I have been with my partner for almost 29 years now, about 15 longer than any of my straight friends, so you clearly don't know the difference between commitment and shack-ups.

Physically, because of a miscarriage I can't have kids, wanna make something of that too? Or hell maybe that's Obama's fault too.

Oh and by the way shackups are pretty traditional in both camps and always have been. Except for those who pretend it isn't so.


29 years and here on a dating site? Makes ya' wanna' say hmmmm.

I guess I missed the class that teaches sodomy is traditional and acceptable. My bad.


You may want a traditional family or relationship, but why would it bother you if others don't?

I have no problem. I just didn't understand the terms Traditional, normal, acceptable,or moral.

After reading all the definitions, I'll have to side with the Islamics and their definition. The idea of man love is kinda' sickening for my tastes.

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Mon 08/31/09 01:16 PM
Edited by AGoodGuy1026 on Mon 08/31/09 01:18 PM




My idea of Traditional Family is family made up of man, woman, the kids,etc.
There is nothing traditional about homosexual shack-ups.

What's yours?


Wow big surprise. I have been with my partner for almost 29 years now, about 15 longer than any of my straight friends, so you clearly don't know the difference between commitment and shack-ups.

Physically, because of a miscarriage I can't have kids, wanna make something of that too? Or hell maybe that's Obama's fault too.

Oh and by the way shackups are pretty traditional in both camps and always have been. Except for those who pretend it isn't so.


29 years and here on a dating site? Makes ya' wanna' say hmmmm.

I guess I missed the class that teaches sodomy is traditional and acceptable. My bad.


You may want a traditional family or relationship, but why would it bother you if others don't?


or why would it bother you if he is expressing his views? Use your own logic, it nullifies your response...

All this bickering is interesting, but it is missing the main point. Polarization of the public is how officials get elected... only when the "we vs. they" attitudes are dropped - and we get back to the business of running a country instead of trying to "win" for our "team" - can we make progress and improve our society - best argument get's us nowhere... what happend to intent, direction and real leadership?

*sigh*

young people have less morals that ever before (who cares who your partner is) there is lack of commitment, empathy, intellect is dying -- our ability to compete in the world is reduced... poverty and hunger grow -- yet we bicker about who each other should have in the bedroom? Oh please... focus on what is truly important. Gays and Lesbians have been around since there have been man and woman... it was just not talked about openly... human beings (at their core) have not changed much in their behaviors -- it's just more "out there
now...

let's get on with running the country for all of us...

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