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Topic: Am I delusional?
Atlantis75's photo
Thu 09/17/09 08:34 PM
I know it's fun to joke around about this, but not for me about this thing I'm gonna tell you.

I asked my mom about this and she thinks that I either imagine things or I had a stupid dream that won't leave me alone. So I stopped talking about it, even though I have been mentioning it a few times since I was about ..I don't even know how young, probably less than 10 years old.

Now I'm 34 (in November) and I still remember as almost sharply as I remembered 20+ years ago.

So listen to this, I never told this anyone (beside my mother) and now as I think of it, I'm not 100% sure suddenly, so don't take this that I swear my life to this that this ever happened, maybe really just my mind is playing a game with me and I'm mixing up things or I was disinformed.

Ok here is the story.

I'm inside this huge tall building which has many apartments and an inner court. The paint is peeling off at many places and above the inner court, people hang out their laundry to dry, some of them floating in the wind. It looks very poor and I'm standing next to a hand rail thing, which is made of metal and also the paint is peeling off. I know I'm little, because I have to look up and all the people are taller than me.
I do not remember anything else beside looking around in this balcony thing or I don't even know how to call it, beside that I remember some adult voice telling me (I don't know who) that we are in Algeria and I am at a place where one of my relative lives.

Now, pure facts:
I have never been in Algeria and I do not have relatives there, not even remotely possible.
I used to got laughed at for saying this when I was little, and I was told that I either saw a movie or had a dream, or I was somewhere else when I was little and somebody said something to me that I memorized wrong.

When I asked my mother first I didn't tell her that it was supposed to be "Algeria", I just mentioned the settings if I have (or we) ever been at such a place and she says no.

Then I asked her as a separate question at another time If we ever had relatives in Algeria and she gave me a look like I'm nuts or something and then she asked me where the hell am I getting such ideas.

I think, I asked her both questions about 4-5 times in my life (in the past 20 years) and the last time I asked her was about a few years ago, and she gave me a weird look , because she remembered that I have asked this before a few times already and now she finds it strange that I still remember, because she thought I was just messing around when was little and asked her.

She thinks I either have a recurring dream or I'm imagining things but usually she just dismisses the entire thing. ohwell



What do you think? What's going on?


I'm gonna show you a picture of what is somewhat similar of that stuck image in my head, I browsed the web for it.

This looks a lot similar, but the one I remember looks a lot worse, dirtier and darker and poorer.


no photo
Thu 09/17/09 08:37 PM
Purple micro dot..??????

or was it window pane ???

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 09/17/09 08:39 PM
IF... you believe in past lives, it could simply be that, a past life memory.

writer_gurl's photo
Thu 09/17/09 08:45 PM
It could be you were having a dream of someone else or maybe you have been here in another time, in another place

I have had dreams like this before.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 09/17/09 08:53 PM

IF... you believe in past lives, it could simply be that, a past life memory.


that's what I was gonna say

Jess642's photo
Thu 09/17/09 08:58 PM
Out of body experience....


can you remember smells?


textures?


sounds?



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Thu 09/17/09 11:29 PM
Edited by smiless on Thu 09/17/09 11:30 PM
This is your past life. You left something behind that somehow was very important (perhaps a loved one) and carried it over to your present life.

I have had also a recurring dream when I was a child that lasted all the way to adulthood. I was told many times that in my dream, I have lost someone I really loved and carried these strong emotions onto this lifetime.

For some this is ridiculous and not possible.

For others they say it is possible.

and then we have some who just shrug their shoulders.

In the end, I would like to believe that it is a past life you had somehow and these emotions and memories faintly stayed with you into this lifetime.


or we can see it as a certain brain functional chemical reaction that you go back to while dreaming that triggers you to have these visions. In otherwords your "thinking" while sleeping goes a certain direction to have these repeated dreams.

For what purpose? It could be possible that you have a goal, or a bothered notion that gets you to dream this, perhaps something troubles you, or maybe someone is trying to contact you, or in the end as the very last option it is a strong imaginative story that your mind is creatively trying to complete.



Wow so many options and no solution! I wish I absolutely knew why dreams do the things they do. I am sure online there might be some researches and conclusions on it for us to study from.

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Fri 09/18/09 07:27 AM
You could call this a past life, but you have to ask what the reason for the dream was.

Have you ever done genealogy on your family tree? Perhaps you do have some ancestors there.

I have a friend who is psychic and she has traced her ancestors back more than ten generations. She has verified them too, and a lot of her information comes to her in dreams and visions.

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Sat 09/19/09 07:02 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sat 09/19/09 07:03 PM
Well, it seems like I have sold one part of the mistery. I talked to my older brother (through the phone) and I brought up this whole thing.
First he was saying that he doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but later as I kept explaning things and describing the place, he said "wait a minute".

And then he said, that he does too remember something, but the weird part is, that he says he was very little, probably 5yrs old or less. And then he says, that we did go to a relative with our dad, although not "Algeria", but Budapest, Hungary and that's where one of our relatives used to live in a similar apartment as I described it.

Here comes the weird part. He can't figure out how do I remember, because I was still a baby pushed in a stroller, I couldn't even walk or speak at the time. shocked scared My older brother is 4 1/2 years older than me.

SkyHook5652's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:21 PM
Well, it seems like I have sold one part of the mistery. I talked to my older brother (through the phone) and I brought up this whole thing.
First he was saying that he doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about, but later as I kept explaning things and describing the place, he said "wait a minute".

And then he said, that he does too remember something, but the weird part is, that he says he was very little, probably 5yrs old or less. And then he says, that we did go to a relative with our dad, although not "Algeria", but Budapest, Hungary and that's where one of our relatives used to live in a similar apartment as I described it.

Here comes the weird part. He can't figure out how do I remember, because I was still a baby pushed in a stroller, I couldn't even walk or speak at the time. shocked scared My older brother is 4 1/2 years older than me.
I don't see any reason to asume that it is impossible to remember events that happened to one as an infant. I know a couple of people that remember their birth, as well as quite a few (including myself) that remember past life incidents.

So I would suggest that you just go with what you know and not accept other peoples evaluations if they conflict with your own experience.

drinker

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:41 PM
glasses I have a theory that the world(enviroment) around me is alive and trying to communicate information to me.glasses

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:53 PM


So I would suggest that you just go with what you know and not accept other peoples evaluations if they conflict with your own experience.

drinker


A common problem today. Most people accept others' evaluations instead of going with their gut feelings. Example: see the politics section. laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:55 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 09/19/09 07:56 PM
:smile: It can only be described as this vast active living intelligence system:smile: And it may be trying to communicate with you as well Atlantis.:smile: It is everywhere:smile: All around us and even in our dreams:smile:

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 09/19/09 08:16 PM



So I would suggest that you just go with what you know and not accept other peoples evaluations if they conflict with your own experience.

drinker


A common problem today. Most people accept others' evaluations instead of going with their gut feelings. Example: see the politics section. laugh


exactly... were only told we can't remember experiences when were infants and such..doesn't necessarily mean it is the truth.

Sounds like an interesting journey your on..drinker

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/19/09 08:53 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 09/19/09 08:53 PM
:smile: And I think it wants me to tell you this, Atlantis:smile:

ZPicante's photo
Sun 09/20/09 12:31 AM
Edited by ZPicante on Sun 09/20/09 12:32 AM
Am I delusional?


Yes.

...

Also, I believe you may have been "disinformed," as well. Lol. That might explain a few things.

No, not really. Well, yes, really, but anyway...

I think many people blow things (like, dreams, yes, and trivial experiences) way, way, way, etc. out of proportion. If you believe there is some significance to a thing/person/event, then you will be more apt to notice similar objects/people/occurrences. The significance to these things is only in your mind.

The End.

Let it go and stop scaring your poor mother.


SkyHook5652's photo
Sun 09/20/09 02:07 PM

Am I delusional?


Yes.

...

Also, I believe you may have been "disinformed," as well. Lol. That might explain a few things.

No, not really. Well, yes, really, but anyway...

I think many people blow things (like, dreams, yes, and trivial experiences) way, way, way, etc. out of proportion. If you believe there is some significance to a thing/person/event, then you will be more apt to notice similar objects/people/occurrences. The significance to these things is only in your mind.

The End.

Let it go and stop scaring your poor mother.
On the other hand, significance is always “in the mind”. That is, without a mind to assign significance, there would be none. So the proportional significance of anything must always be relative to the mind that assigns that significance. Thus, what is “out of proportion” or “trivial” from one viewpoint may be “in proportion” or “not trivial” from a different viewpoint.

Also, I don’t think that a desire to know the truth can be reasonably blamed for causing fear. If that were true, and comprised a valid reason to prohibit acting on that desire, then virtually all the greatest scientific and philosophical truths throughout history would never have been discovered.

Yes of course we all have a moral responsibility to refrain from injuring others mentally and emotionally as well as physically. But I believe that “the search for truth” is a bit higher on the moral scale.

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Sun 09/20/09 10:26 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Sun 09/20/09 10:27 PM


Am I delusional?


Yes.

...

Also, I believe you may have been "disinformed," as well. Lol. That might explain a few things.

No, not really. Well, yes, really, but anyway...

I think many people blow things (like, dreams, yes, and trivial experiences) way, way, way, etc. out of proportion. If you believe there is some significance to a thing/person/event, then you will be more apt to notice similar objects/people/occurrences. The significance to these things is only in your mind.

The End.

Let it go and stop scaring your poor mother.
On the other hand, significance is always “in the mind”. That is, without a mind to assign significance, there would be none. So the proportional significance of anything must always be relative to the mind that assigns that significance. Thus, what is “out of proportion” or “trivial” from one viewpoint may be “in proportion” or “not trivial” from a different viewpoint.

Also, I don’t think that a desire to know the truth can be reasonably blamed for causing fear. If that were true, and comprised a valid reason to prohibit acting on that desire, then virtually all the greatest scientific and philosophical truths throughout history would never have been discovered.

Yes of course we all have a moral responsibility to refrain from injuring others mentally and emotionally as well as physically. But I believe that “the search for truth” is a bit higher on the moral scale.

Defiance? This will not pass.

Quite obviously, "significance" is always "in the mind," but even more obviously, our own definitions of what is "significant" (as in, what has a specific meaning to which we, often arbitrarily or superstitiously, assign it) may very well contradict reality. It is a matter of our misinterpreting information in reality to match our often paranoid/superstitious presumptions of what is going on.

I may believe every time I see a watermelon, a women in Africa gives birth to twins, but the odds of that *actually happening* seem rather slim, don't you think? Sure, I may be right *some* of the time, in some rare cases, but, mainly, it's superstitious nonsense. More often than not, I'm just seeing watermelons; that's all.

Riiight. Well, judging by his mother's reaction, I severely doubt "the truth" lies in Algeria. Lol. Sometimes, we just get paranoid; and sometimes, we make things out to be *significant to us,* when, really, we just want to feel "special." It has nothing to do with the pursuit of truth; it has to do with overemphasizing trivialities to makes ourselves feel more important.

How's that grab ya, SkyHook?

SkyHook5652's photo
Mon 09/21/09 02:46 AM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Mon 09/21/09 02:49 AM
Am I delusional?


Yes.

...

Also, I believe you may have been "disinformed," as well. Lol. That might explain a few things.

No, not really. Well, yes, really, but anyway...

I think many people blow things (like, dreams, yes, and trivial experiences) way, way, way, etc. out of proportion. If you believe there is some significance to a thing/person/event, then you will be more apt to notice similar objects/people/occurrences. The significance to these things is only in your mind.

The End.

Let it go and stop scaring your poor mother.
On the other hand, significance is always “in the mind”. That is, without a mind to assign significance, there would be none. So the proportional significance of anything must always be relative to the mind that assigns that significance. Thus, what is “out of proportion” or “trivial” from one viewpoint may be “in proportion” or “not trivial” from a different viewpoint.

Also, I don’t think that a desire to know the truth can be reasonably blamed for causing fear. If that were true, and comprised a valid reason to prohibit acting on that desire, then virtually all the greatest scientific and philosophical truths throughout history would never have been discovered.

Yes of course we all have a moral responsibility to refrain from injuring others mentally and emotionally as well as physically. But I believe that “the search for truth” is a bit higher on the moral scale.
Defiance? This will not pass.

Quite obviously, "significance" is always "in the mind," but even more obviously, our own definitions of what is "significant" (as in, what has a specific meaning to which we, often arbitrarily or superstitiously, assign it) may very well contradict reality. It is a matter of our misinterpreting information in reality to match our often paranoid/superstitious presumptions of what is going on.

I may believe every time I see a watermelon, a women in Africa gives birth to twins, but the odds of that *actually happening* seem rather slim, don't you think? Sure, I may be right *some* of the time, in some rare cases, but, mainly, it's superstitious nonsense. More often than not, I'm just seeing watermelons; that's all.

Riiight. Well, judging by his mother's reaction, I severely doubt "the truth" lies in Algeria. Lol. Sometimes, we just get paranoid; and sometimes, we make things out to be *significant to us,* when, really, we just want to feel "special." It has nothing to do with the pursuit of truth; it has to do with overemphasizing trivialities to makes ourselves feel more important.

How's that grab ya, SkyHook?
Except for all the innuendo, it grabs me just fine, since it’s pretty much what I said from the start. The significance is obviously different between him and his mother. And the significance is obviously different between your belief about the watermelon twins and others beliefs about the watermelon twins.

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Mon 09/21/09 08:56 AM
not to be an *** but usually people who believe they dream about a past life the dream occurs early on in childhood before age 10 and then goes away.

you can get theoretical or mystical about it if you want

but

usually dreams are just images or thoughts that we've had recently and for some reason we dream about those images/ thoughts. there is no explanation really for why we dream, but honestly i dream about all kinds of things and it could just be you watched a movie that you seen when you were younger, went to a place that looks like that, seen a picture, or were reminded of it and your mind goes in that direction because of it.

but just my opinion

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