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Mon 10/12/09 08:52 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219730/1-000-fine-putting-food-scraps-dustbin.html

£1,000 fine for putting any food scraps in the dustbin as 'zero waste' policy could lead up to five-bin headache
By David Derbyshire

Householders could be fined £1,000 if they throw food scraps and potato peelings into the dustbin under a Government 'zero waste' policy.
They will be forced to sift through their rubbish for anything that can be recycled, reused, rotted or burnt for electricity.
The crackdown will create so much recyclable material that homes could be given five wheelie bins and waste boxes to cope.

The controversial zero waste policy - part of the Government's drive to cut greenhouse gas emissions - will be unveiled tomorrow by Environment Minister Hilary Benn.The plans are due to be outlined at a 'waste summit' aimed at finding new ways to halve the 62million tons of rubbish sent to landfill each year.

Ministers will discuss the issue with councils, businesses and waste experts.Yesterday, Mr Benn said the Government would launch a consultation early next year into banning food, cans, paper and glass from landfill.Homes that persistently break the rules by putting food waste in the ordinary dustbin could face fines of £1,000 or more.
'One that we are going to consult on around the turn of the year is banning certain things from going into landfill,' he told the Politics Show on BBC1.


'Because does it make sense to put food into landfill? No it doesn't.'By 2020, all councils will be forced to offer a full recycling service, he said. But the plans were condemned by critics.
Matthew Elliott, of the TaxPayers' Alliance pressure group, said: 'Voters are sceptical about recycling policy - particularly when they see recyclables being thrown on the same bins as landfill waste. 'The Government should sort out the current recycling policy before starting on new barmy ideas. 'The fact that food waste could be banned from landfill - effectively treating it as a kind of toxic waste - is a recipe for disaster.'

Around 55 per cent of household waste, 50 per cent of commercial waste and 25 per cent of the debris from construction and building ends up in landfill.Under the Government's zero waste strategy, due to be phased in over the next few years, only items that have 'absolutely no other use' would be allowed to be buried.
Slop buckets - already used to collect food scraps in millions of homes - would be extended across the whole country, adding another bin to the three or four in use in parts of the UK.Councils that collect paper, plastic, glass and cans in one bin will be encouraged to give homes more bins to reduce contamination and reduce the amount of recyclable waste that ends up being burnt or thrown onto rubbish tips.

Mr Benn also wants a crackdown on food packaging in shops. He will urge businesses to remove cellophane from vegetables and fruit and encourage people to bring jars to shops for top ups of coffee.
He is also expected to draw up plans to generate electricity from waste. Rotting food releases methane - a potent greenhouse gas which can be burnt to create electricity.The Government will also announce six pilot schemes to cut waste and boost recycling.
Councils taking part in the experiment - in Suffolk, Oxfordshire, London and Shropshire - will be set tough recycling targets.
A spokesman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said: 'We won't be telling them what to do, but the idea is to encourage them to come up with innovative ideas.'
Some councils are already close to handing out five wheelie bins and recycling boxes.In the North London borough of Brent, householders face fines of up to £1,000 if they don't recycle.
Householders are given a standard black dustbin for ordinary waste, a green compost bin for garden waste, vegetable peelings and cardboard and a green box for 12 types of recyclable.
A fourth bin will be needed for kitchen slops to generate renewable energy from methane.Earlier this year, the Daily Mail highlighted how the rise of wheelie bins is blighting British streets and homes and fuelling arson attacks.The Not in Our Front Yard campaign won the backing of English Heritage boss Simon Thurley, the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association, the TaxPayers' Alliance and the National Pensioners' Convention.








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Mon 10/12/09 08:55 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219730/1-000-fine-putting-food-scraps-dustbin.html

£1,000 fine for putting any food scraps in the dustbin as 'zero waste' policy could lead up to five-bin headache
By David Derbyshire

Householders could be fined £1,000 if they throw food scraps and potato peelings into the dustbin under a Government 'zero waste' policy.
They will be forced to sift through their rubbish for anything that can be recycled, reused, rotted or burnt for electricity.
The crackdown will create so much recyclable material that homes could be given five wheelie bins and waste boxes to cope.

The controversial zero waste policy - part of the Government's drive to cut greenhouse gas emissions - will be unveiled tomorrow by Environment Minister Hilary Benn.The plans are due to be outlined at a 'waste summit' aimed at finding new ways to halve the 62million tons of rubbish sent to landfill each year.

Ministers will discuss the issue with councils, businesses and waste experts.Yesterday, Mr Benn said the Government would launch a consultation early next year into banning food, cans, paper and glass from landfill.Homes that persistently break the rules by putting food waste in the ordinary dustbin could face fines of £1,000 or more.
'One that we are going to consult on around the turn of the year is banning certain things from going into landfill,' he told the Politics Show on BBC1.


'Because does it make sense to put food into landfill? No it doesn't.'By 2020, all councils will be forced to offer a full recycling service, he said. But the plans were condemned by critics.
Matthew Elliott, of the TaxPayers' Alliance pressure group, said: 'Voters are sceptical about recycling policy - particularly when they see recyclables being thrown on the same bins as landfill waste. 'The Government should sort out the current recycling policy before starting on new barmy ideas. 'The fact that food waste could be banned from landfill - effectively treating it as a kind of toxic waste - is a recipe for disaster.'

Around 55 per cent of household waste, 50 per cent of commercial waste and 25 per cent of the debris from construction and building ends up in landfill.Under the Government's zero waste strategy, due to be phased in over the next few years, only items that have 'absolutely no other use' would be allowed to be buried.
Slop buckets - already used to collect food scraps in millions of homes - would be extended across the whole country, adding another bin to the three or four in use in parts of the UK.Councils that collect paper, plastic, glass and cans in one bin will be encouraged to give homes more bins to reduce contamination and reduce the amount of recyclable waste that ends up being burnt or thrown onto rubbish tips.

Mr Benn also wants a crackdown on food packaging in shops. He will urge businesses to remove cellophane from vegetables and fruit and encourage people to bring jars to shops for top ups of coffee.
He is also expected to draw up plans to generate electricity from waste. Rotting food releases methane - a potent greenhouse gas which can be burnt to create electricity.The Government will also announce six pilot schemes to cut waste and boost recycling.
Councils taking part in the experiment - in Suffolk, Oxfordshire, London and Shropshire - will be set tough recycling targets.
A spokesman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said: 'We won't be telling them what to do, but the idea is to encourage them to come up with innovative ideas.'
Some councils are already close to handing out five wheelie bins and recycling boxes.In the North London borough of Brent, householders face fines of up to £1,000 if they don't recycle.
Householders are given a standard black dustbin for ordinary waste, a green compost bin for garden waste, vegetable peelings and cardboard and a green box for 12 types of recyclable.
A fourth bin will be needed for kitchen slops to generate renewable energy from methane.Earlier this year, the Daily Mail highlighted how the rise of wheelie bins is blighting British streets and homes and fuelling arson attacks.The Not in Our Front Yard campaign won the backing of English Heritage boss Simon Thurley, the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association, the TaxPayers' Alliance and the National Pensioners' Convention.











Whats sad about this, is all recycling other then aluminum is a waste of money and energy.

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Mon 10/12/09 08:57 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219730/1-000-fine-putting-food-scraps-dustbin.html

£1,000 fine for putting any food scraps in the dustbin as 'zero waste' policy could lead up to five-bin headache
By David Derbyshire

Householders could be fined £1,000 if they throw food scraps and potato peelings into the dustbin under a Government 'zero waste' policy.
They will be forced to sift through their rubbish for anything that can be recycled, reused, rotted or burnt for electricity.
The crackdown will create so much recyclable material that homes could be given five wheelie bins and waste boxes to cope.

The controversial zero waste policy - part of the Government's drive to cut greenhouse gas emissions - will be unveiled tomorrow by Environment Minister Hilary Benn.The plans are due to be outlined at a 'waste summit' aimed at finding new ways to halve the 62million tons of rubbish sent to landfill each year.

Ministers will discuss the issue with councils, businesses and waste experts.Yesterday, Mr Benn said the Government would launch a consultation early next year into banning food, cans, paper and glass from landfill.Homes that persistently break the rules by putting food waste in the ordinary dustbin could face fines of £1,000 or more.
'One that we are going to consult on around the turn of the year is banning certain things from going into landfill,' he told the Politics Show on BBC1.


'Because does it make sense to put food into landfill? No it doesn't.'By 2020, all councils will be forced to offer a full recycling service, he said. But the plans were condemned by critics.
Matthew Elliott, of the TaxPayers' Alliance pressure group, said: 'Voters are sceptical about recycling policy - particularly when they see recyclables being thrown on the same bins as landfill waste. 'The Government should sort out the current recycling policy before starting on new barmy ideas. 'The fact that food waste could be banned from landfill - effectively treating it as a kind of toxic waste - is a recipe for disaster.'

Around 55 per cent of household waste, 50 per cent of commercial waste and 25 per cent of the debris from construction and building ends up in landfill.Under the Government's zero waste strategy, due to be phased in over the next few years, only items that have 'absolutely no other use' would be allowed to be buried.
Slop buckets - already used to collect food scraps in millions of homes - would be extended across the whole country, adding another bin to the three or four in use in parts of the UK.Councils that collect paper, plastic, glass and cans in one bin will be encouraged to give homes more bins to reduce contamination and reduce the amount of recyclable waste that ends up being burnt or thrown onto rubbish tips.

Mr Benn also wants a crackdown on food packaging in shops. He will urge businesses to remove cellophane from vegetables and fruit and encourage people to bring jars to shops for top ups of coffee.
He is also expected to draw up plans to generate electricity from waste. Rotting food releases methane - a potent greenhouse gas which can be burnt to create electricity.The Government will also announce six pilot schemes to cut waste and boost recycling.
Councils taking part in the experiment - in Suffolk, Oxfordshire, London and Shropshire - will be set tough recycling targets.
A spokesman for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs said: 'We won't be telling them what to do, but the idea is to encourage them to come up with innovative ideas.'
Some councils are already close to handing out five wheelie bins and recycling boxes.In the North London borough of Brent, householders face fines of up to £1,000 if they don't recycle.
Householders are given a standard black dustbin for ordinary waste, a green compost bin for garden waste, vegetable peelings and cardboard and a green box for 12 types of recyclable.
A fourth bin will be needed for kitchen slops to generate renewable energy from methane.Earlier this year, the Daily Mail highlighted how the rise of wheelie bins is blighting British streets and homes and fuelling arson attacks.The Not in Our Front Yard campaign won the backing of English Heritage boss Simon Thurley, the Guide Dogs for the Blind Association, the TaxPayers' Alliance and the National Pensioners' Convention.


OMG ! That is to freaking long for me to read right now slaphead slaphead slaphead slaphead


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Mon 10/12/09 09:28 PM
"£1,000 fine for putting any food scraps in the dustbin as 'zero waste' policy could lead up to five-bin headache."

How much is that in American money?

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Mon 10/12/09 09:30 PM

Whats sad about this, is all recycling other then aluminum is a waste of money and energy.


Why is it a waste of money? I honestly don't know.

I recycle soda cans and newspapers. I give them to my church. I give the tabs from the soda cans to the Scouts to give to the Ronald McDonald house.


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Mon 10/12/09 09:32 PM


Whats sad about this, is all recycling other then aluminum is a waste of money and energy.


Why is it a waste of money? I honestly don't know.

I recycle soda cans and newspapers. I give them to my church. I give the tabs from the soda cans to the Scouts to give to the Ronald McDonald house.




I can only find Euro to dollars. not sure about pounds

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Mon 10/12/09 09:37 PM
They did something similar in my old hometown of Seattle where you could be fined for throwing away recyclables.Needless to say the whole recycling everything was extremly expensive and increased our garbage bills by leaps and bounds.It also increased our taxes due to the hundreds of new trucks that needed to have special sections in the truck to keep the paper,garbage,and yard waste seperated.It also increased gas prices as you had twice as many trucks going sometimes as far away as 30 miles to take this crap to the right places to get recyled by the factory.Houses had no less than 3 different 55 gallon bins that not only took up alot of space in the garage but was a eyesore when they were set up for pickup.Very often the wind blew them over or some idiot teen driver hit them on purpose and papers would blow all over the entire neighborhood.

I used to recycle many years ago but since all this nonsense started I just throw it in the garbage and be done with it.I know no matter how much I recycle it will never be enough and they will never be satisfied.I also know no matter how much I recycle my taxes will never go down nor will my garbage bill.

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Tue 10/13/09 08:13 AM


Whats sad about this, is all recycling other then aluminum is a waste of money and energy.


Why is it a waste of money? I honestly don't know.

I recycle soda cans and newspapers. I give them to my church. I give the tabs from the soda cans to the Scouts to give to the Ronald McDonald house.




$1,583.98 using http://www.xe.com/ucc/.

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Tue 10/13/09 09:22 AM
I personally think it's a good idea.

How does one put food waste in with recyclables? That's unconscious. I saved food wastes in a bag in the freezer and do not put it out until garbage day. Food waste that could be used in the garden I put in a compost bin. I think it must be disgusting enough for the guys that collect the garbage to have to smell that so I try not to subject them to it.

I also stopped buying things with excessive packaging, so as to lower the amount of recyclables that needed to be put out. That way I never had bins so full they would fly about.

Recycling is not hard to do, just takes a bit of rethinking. I now do not have recycling where I moved to and miss it frankly. I can't imagine what the landfills are like here where people don't much care what happens once it is out of sight. Yet I still recycle by bring glass, plastic and paper to the local center for recycling and garbage. I still compost though only use it on flowers and non garden areas.

Taxes go up for cost of living, I expect that even if I don't much care for it anymore than anyone else does. Ultimately it is our responsibility to do the right thing. The government can't do it all for us.

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Tue 10/13/09 09:58 AM
I can understand recycling non-food items but fining people for throwing scraps away, c'monslaphead

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Tue 10/13/09 10:57 AM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Tue 10/13/09 11:04 AM
right now 1,000 pounds british is about $1930 US, according to the currency converter on my samsung eternity..

which may not be all that accurate.. google has it as 1 GBP = 1.585 USD, = 1.5908 USD from Forex..

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Tue 10/13/09 09:01 PM
I might have read it wrong but I assumed the fine was for throwing food waste into one of the recycle bins meant for plastic or paper. People used to get lazy and do that a lot where I used to live and they finally cracked down on it. Why recycle at all if someone is going to have to scrape rotted food off other recyclables.

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Tue 10/13/09 09:04 PM
neener, neener...that's what my garbage disposal is for...

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Tue 10/13/09 09:09 PM
I'm AWFUL when it comes to recycling. I'll hang my head now :cry:

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Tue 10/13/09 09:09 PM
we don't have recycling

as a fatter of mact we don't even have trash pickup

everything goes in a barrel and is burned

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Wed 10/14/09 08:50 PM



Whats sad about this, is all recycling other then aluminum is a waste of money and energy.


Why is it a waste of money? I honestly don't know.

I recycle soda cans and newspapers. I give them to my church. I give the tabs from the soda cans to the Scouts to give to the Ronald McDonald house.


$1,583.98 using http://www.xe.com/ucc/.


That's a large fine!shocked

Winx's photo
Wed 10/14/09 08:51 PM

we don't have recycling

as a fatter of mact we don't even have trash pickup

everything goes in a barrel and is burned


Seriously?

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Wed 10/14/09 09:05 PM
I used to recycle until one day the guy at our dump told me that most of the stuff ends up in landfills anyway. I couldn't believe it until one day I saw them burning the cardboard.

I think the schools should get into recycling. Probably could make a lot of money until they got sued because a kid got cut on a piece of glass. I say educate the kids on safety and have them bring all recyclables from home to school.


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Wed 10/14/09 09:09 PM

I used to recycle until one day the guy at our dump told me that most of the stuff ends up in landfills anyway. I couldn't believe it until one day I saw them burning the cardboard.

I think the schools should get into recycling. Probably could make a lot of money until they got sued because a kid got cut on a piece of glass. I say educate the kids on safety and have them bring all recyclables from home to school.




Churches in my area have dumpsters for recycling soda cans and newspapers. People give them the cans and papers and the churches make some money.


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Wed 10/14/09 09:19 PM
Oh wow, no recycling? That's not good. I live in a small town and we have recycling. All of the schools around here recycle as well. The schools also have a few dumpsters for certain things for parents to bring. They say bring your phone books, haha heaven knows we get enough of those!!


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