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Topic: Firefox maker blasts google advises to switch away
Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/12/09 05:59 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sat 12/12/09 06:01 PM
Switch from Google to Bing, browser-maker urges

That seems to be more or less the position of Google CEO Eric Schmidt when it comes to online privacy, and Schmidt's comments to that effect have set off a firestorm of controversy over the web company's commitment to its users' privacy.

In an interview broadcast late last week, CNBC's Maria Bartiromo asked Schmidt if people could trust the world's leading search engine company with their private information.

"I think judgment matters," Schmidt responded. "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines, including Google, do retain this information for some time and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."

That comment has raised criticism from privacy advocates and even some competing firms in the online world.

Using Schmidt's comments as the background to his announcement, an executive at Mozilla, the company that makes the Firefox browser, on Thursday suggested Firefox users to switch to Bing, Microsoft's competing search engine, according to a report at ComputerWorld.

Google's data mining is "like someone hiring a private investigator to follow you," writes Sebastian Anthony at DownloadSquad. "Even if you don't do anything illegal while under their surveillance, does that make it OK? Google is always pretty evasive when it comes to the issue of privacy, and Eric Schmidt's stunning statement certainly won't help allay our growing concerns."



http://rawstory.com/2009/12/google-anti-privacy-remarks/

It's a bigger article, but i kinda chopped it down, basically if you are using IE or Mozilla Firefox, you are better off switching to "Bing" search, because Google is spying on you and it doesn't surprise me one bit.


willing2's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:06 PM

Switch from Google to Bing, browser-maker urges

That seems to be more or less the position of Google CEO Eric Schmidt when it comes to online privacy, and Schmidt's comments to that effect have set off a firestorm of controversy over the web company's commitment to its users' privacy.

In an interview broadcast late last week, CNBC's Maria Bartiromo asked Schmidt if people could trust the world's leading search engine company with their private information.

"I think judgment matters," Schmidt responded. "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines, including Google, do retain this information for some time and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."

That comment has raised criticism from privacy advocates and even some competing firms in the online world.

Using Schmidt's comments as the background to his announcement, an executive at Mozilla, the company that makes the Firefox browser, on Thursday suggested Firefox users to switch to Bing, Microsoft's competing search engine, according to a report at ComputerWorld.

Google's data mining is "like someone hiring a private investigator to follow you," writes Sebastian Anthony at DownloadSquad. "Even if you don't do anything illegal while under their surveillance, does that make it OK? Google is always pretty evasive when it comes to the issue of privacy, and Eric Schmidt's stunning statement certainly won't help allay our growing concerns."



http://rawstory.com/2009/12/google-anti-privacy-remarks/

It's a bigger article, but i kinda chopped it down, basically if you are using IE or Mozilla Firefox, you are better off switching to "Bing" search, because Google is spying on you and it doesn't surprise me one bit.




OH CHIT!!! Firefox has been screwin up on me so, about a week ago I switched to Chrome.
Thanks fo da head's up!drinker

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:15 PM


Switch from Google to Bing, browser-maker urges

That seems to be more or less the position of Google CEO Eric Schmidt when it comes to online privacy, and Schmidt's comments to that effect have set off a firestorm of controversy over the web company's commitment to its users' privacy.

In an interview broadcast late last week, CNBC's Maria Bartiromo asked Schmidt if people could trust the world's leading search engine company with their private information.

"I think judgment matters," Schmidt responded. "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines, including Google, do retain this information for some time and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."

That comment has raised criticism from privacy advocates and even some competing firms in the online world.

Using Schmidt's comments as the background to his announcement, an executive at Mozilla, the company that makes the Firefox browser, on Thursday suggested Firefox users to switch to Bing, Microsoft's competing search engine, according to a report at ComputerWorld.

Google's data mining is "like someone hiring a private investigator to follow you," writes Sebastian Anthony at DownloadSquad. "Even if you don't do anything illegal while under their surveillance, does that make it OK? Google is always pretty evasive when it comes to the issue of privacy, and Eric Schmidt's stunning statement certainly won't help allay our growing concerns."



http://rawstory.com/2009/12/google-anti-privacy-remarks/

It's a bigger article, but i kinda chopped it down, basically if you are using IE or Mozilla Firefox, you are better off switching to "Bing" search, because Google is spying on you and it doesn't surprise me one bit.




OH CHIT!!! Firefox has been screwin up on me so, about a week ago I switched to Chrome.
Thanks fo da head's up!drinker


I have Chrome but I hardly use it. It's fast and all, but I remember when Chrome came out, there were people who immediately posted news about a shaky "agreement" policy of google, which left out several things and basically stated, that your web browsing information will be stored .

Google had to pull Chrome back and write a new License Agreement.

I don't trust Chrome ever since.

I recommend to use Opera browser, or IE with the bing search engine or the fastest one out there is Safari from Apple. I use Mozilla anyway and i use google search and bing search anyway. They can spy on me as much as they want, and if they really want and come here and talk to me, they can come and kiss my .ss. :banana:

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Sat 12/12/09 06:19 PM
Edited by Dancere on Sat 12/12/09 06:20 PM
... Never used Bing before, will look into it!

Thanx ... flowerforyou

I'm on Snow Leopard Apple w/ Safari ...

... Sounds like you do like Safari!?

I always trust your experience, have read much of it in the computer forum! ...:thumbsup:

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:20 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 12/12/09 06:21 PM
If they operate in the US, and are used by US citizens, aren't they required to follow the same US laws?

willing2's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:23 PM



Switch from Google to Bing, browser-maker urges

That seems to be more or less the position of Google CEO Eric Schmidt when it comes to online privacy, and Schmidt's comments to that effect have set off a firestorm of controversy over the web company's commitment to its users' privacy.

In an interview broadcast late last week, CNBC's Maria Bartiromo asked Schmidt if people could trust the world's leading search engine company with their private information.

"I think judgment matters," Schmidt responded. "If you have something that you don’t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines, including Google, do retain this information for some time and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."

That comment has raised criticism from privacy advocates and even some competing firms in the online world.

Using Schmidt's comments as the background to his announcement, an executive at Mozilla, the company that makes the Firefox browser, on Thursday suggested Firefox users to switch to Bing, Microsoft's competing search engine, according to a report at ComputerWorld.

Google's data mining is "like someone hiring a private investigator to follow you," writes Sebastian Anthony at DownloadSquad. "Even if you don't do anything illegal while under their surveillance, does that make it OK? Google is always pretty evasive when it comes to the issue of privacy, and Eric Schmidt's stunning statement certainly won't help allay our growing concerns."



http://rawstory.com/2009/12/google-anti-privacy-remarks/

It's a bigger article, but i kinda chopped it down, basically if you are using IE or Mozilla Firefox, you are better off switching to "Bing" search, because Google is spying on you and it doesn't surprise me one bit.




OH CHIT!!! Firefox has been screwin up on me so, about a week ago I switched to Chrome.
Thanks fo da head's up!drinker


I have Chrome but I hardly use it. It's fast and all, but I remember when Chrome came out, there were people who immediately posted news about a shaky "agreement" policy of google, which left out several things and basically stated, that your web browsing information will be stored .

Google had to pull Chrome back and write a new License Agreement.

I don't trust Chrome ever since.

I recommend to use Opera browser, or IE with the bing search engine or the fastest one out there is Safari from Apple. I use Mozilla anyway and i use google search and bing search anyway. They can spy on me as much as they want, and if they really want and come here and talk to me, they can come and kiss my .ss. :banana:

Thanks again.
I'm downloading a different browser now.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:27 PM

If they operate in the US, and are used by US citizens, aren't they required to follow the same US laws?


It seems to me that to operate in the US they would be holding to the FCC.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:29 PM


If they operate in the US, and are used by US citizens, aren't they required to follow the same US laws?


It seems to me that to operate in the US they would be holding to the FCC.


But hey. What would an Electronic Engineering Tech know?

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:31 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sat 12/12/09 06:34 PM

... Never used Bing before, will look into it!

Thanx ... flowerforyou

I'm on Snow Leopard Apple w/ Safari ...

... Sounds like you do like Safari!?

I always trust your experience, have read much of it in the computer forum! ...:thumbsup:


Safari is great, it's very simple but it has its shortcomings, less customizable and so on..very good for people just browse the web. I'm on the other hand, download and upload videos and so on, I need my tools and extensions in Firefox I got used to over the years.

For anyone with Firefox use this link to add the bing search engine and when the option come up, then click "start using right away"

http://www.bing.com/?FORM=MFEHPG&PUBL=Google&CREA=userid174375bbb0d9edcd28f6db1293d53b6cbefe#

(on the top right corner, you will see "Make Bing your search provider" just click on it. )

It's kinda nice once you get used to it! drinker

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:32 PM
so it's google, not firefox?

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:36 PM

so it's google, not firefox?


Firefox designer says, that google and the google search engine is spying on people.

This is no surprise though, anyone who has many extensions installed for firefox such as "adsense" or some spy detecting stuff, will see google doing its crap while you browse the web.

no photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:36 PM



If they operate in the US, and are used by US citizens, aren't they required to follow the same US laws?


It seems to me that to operate in the US they would be holding to the FCC.


But hey. What would an Electronic Engineering Tech know?



:heart: ... Swoon, I love it when you use GeekSpeak ... smokin

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:38 PM
the reality is that search engines, including Google, do retain this information for some time and it’s important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act. It is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."


There ya go!

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:43 PM
So you're saying some policy wonk in D.C. is copying down all the porn sites I visit?

willing2's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:46 PM

So you're saying some policy wonk in D.C. is copying down all the porn sites I visit?

If you's a demoncrat, ya gots no worries.
They will even pay your subscriptions for ya.laugh laugh laugh

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:50 PM

So you're saying some policy wonk in D.C. is copying down all the porn sites I visit?


NO! LOL

They don't have that kind of capability!

They monitor like they do with phone calls. Looking for keywords, recording 2 or three minutes of the transmission, and then monitoring it more closely if they deem its necessary!

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:54 PM
Democrats...

Hey, Obama is giving away money from his stash at the bottom of this pit:


And the Democrats react:


rofl rofl

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 12/12/09 06:54 PM
So now you're saying some policy wonk in D.C. is listening in on my phone sex chats with Natasha from Smolensk?

Atlantis75's photo
Sat 12/12/09 07:01 PM

So now you're saying some policy wonk in D.C. is listening in on my phone sex chats with Natasha from Smolensk?


Alright...I don't know who else on this site has called outside of USA but I do it like once a week. I talk to my brother in Hungary. About a year ago they gave up on me, lol..but I'm not kidding, my phone was tapped by either FBI or CIA whatever same crap. I got so used to it to hear the clicking and even talking in the background, and my brother too, he used to ask "who is there" beside me and I say, Don't worry, just the feds are listening.. Say "hi" to them, LOL..we used to just say "Hi Feds!, What's up!" and just continue to talk, and just usually talk about the weather or motorcycle parts he wanted me to buy and send it to him.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/12/09 07:01 PM

So now you're saying some policy wonk in D.C. is listening in on my phone sex chats with Natasha from Smolensk?


NO, LOL

But if you say bomb or something similar they are apt to monitor the conversation for a minute or two.


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