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Topic: Why fear God?
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Wed 02/17/10 11:15 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 02/17/10 11:19 PM




I want a God fearing man,, meaning a man who has upmost respect for God and what he is capable of(both pleasant and unpleasant). Fear is a healthy part of respect, I want someone who respects God as God not just as their equal or some myth or joke.



Yes it is a common practice to fear God, but personally i don't feel this is how it should be done. I feel we should love God and fear the devil. But again why fear the devil? With God on your side who can be against you? If you have God with you, then you should have no fears at all. Fear shows doupt, if you fear something that is showing doupt in God. Because come on, with God on your side what bad can happen? Yes i understand bad things happen to people who worship God. But let's be honest, most people say they believe in God and love him so. But alot of those people drink and party on Saturday, then go to church Sunday. God isn't just here on Sunday's nor is that the only day we should practice God's word. What i'm trying to say i guess is, if your faith in God get's weak or you start to do actions of the devil that gives the devil to do his work, because for that short time you have seperated yourself from God allowing the Devil to do his works.

And of course the Devil is going to do something bad to people that worship God to bring doupts into there hearts. People are prone to putting the blame on others rather then taking the responibility that it's there actions that brought this amongs themselves.

So it all boils down to you should no fear God, the only things you should fear is going against God's will.


from what 'msharmony' wrote, I'm left with :
God fearing man!
Where fear is taken out of context it would seem, and should mean 'utmost respect'!
... but then again, we learn from msharmony that fear is actually 'healthy', as in the healthy part of respect!?!?!?
Soooo, maybe man should fear msharmony's god after all?!?!?!?
... and forget this confusing amalgamation with 'utmost respect'!!!


from what 'cowboy' wrote I'm left with :

DON'T FEAR GOD, fear the devil!
No, no, don't fear the devil either, for if you have god on your side, there is nothing you should fear!!!
Nothing except of course god's wrath itself, ... if you disobey it!!!
Soooo, in the end fear god!?!?!?!

That's the problem with fundamentalism: each 'paper pope' believes in their personal version of their god's word, and each paper pope has a different version.

Not confusing for each one of them, but 'confusing' to the utmost, and most definitely 'UNBELIEVABLE' for the rest of us, non-fundamentalists!!!


exactly..... might not be the point you were goin for, but disobeying God is the only thing in this world worth fearing. Other then that nothing can hurt you in anyway.


Yet:

We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)

"Is it any wonder the monkey's confused?" Roger Waters


this is because you've taken these out of context, he's what is ment in these particular verses in context

As you can see with the verses in context it is telling us fear nothing in this world because nothing in this world can change our salvation. And fear and love go hand in hand. If you love someone you fear loosing them and or hurting them. Without that love for them, you would not have the fear. Main point here is there is nothing to fear on this earth with God on your side.

Mathew 10:28---
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10:26 - fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known
10:27 - What i tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops
10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rahter fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
10:29 - Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? And one of them shall not fall on the ground without your father.
10:30 - But the very hairs of your head are all numbered
10:31 - fear ye not therefore, ye are more value than sparrows
10:32 - Whosoever therefor shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.


John 4:18---
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There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love

You didn't use this one particularly out of context, you just didn't include the entire verse. And it's not God in particular anyone should fear, it's fearing dissapointing God and or going against his will. And no one here on earth has been or ever will be perfect except Jesus. Jesus was the only person to ever walk this earth perfect. When we pass away on earth we will be perfect in heaven, but not on earth. Earth is a growing/learning experience.

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Thu 02/18/10 05:00 AM

Why do I see so many women trying to find "God fearing men?" If God is supposed to be a God of love then why be scared of him (her, it)? Is God going to spank me for being naughty? I thought Jesus's crucifixion was supposed to fix that for us?


Jesus's crucifixition if anything should prove that God is someone to fear ...if God is willing to allow his only begotton son to be killed then you can't even imagine what he will do to you

also if a woman has on her profile that she is God fearing and looking for a god fearing man ...then run...run like the devil himself is chasing you ..it's an indication that she hear voices




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Thu 02/18/10 07:53 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 02/18/10 08:13 AM


Why do I see so many women trying to find "God fearing men?" If God is supposed to be a God of love then why be scared of him (her, it)? Is God going to spank me for being naughty? I thought Jesus's crucifixion was supposed to fix that for us?


Jesus's crucifixition if anything should prove that God is someone to fear ...if God is willing to allow his only begotton son to be killed then you can't even imagine what he will do to you

also if a woman has on her profile that she is God fearing and looking for a god fearing man ...then run...run like the devil himself is chasing you ..it's an indication that she hear voices



Oh but God did not allow his child to be killed. Jesus was never killed nor ever died. Yes he passed away on this earth, but lives on. Jesus allowing himself to be crucified was a sacrifice he gave for us all. Yes Jesus felt a huge majority of pain but that was only for say 30 years of his life or so. That is nothing compared to all the love and joy he will feel in heaven for eternity. This right here is what is wrong with the world, most of the world has grown very worldly and that is where their love lays.... with the world. Alot of the world has lost it's love for God. Because what does it matter what happens to any of us here on earth? It's all going to pass away. So why not focuse our attention on something that will never defile, nor be destroyed? Because what you put your love and attention towards is where you'll live for ever. Just keep in mind this world get's destroyed. So choose wisely.

And on top of that, Jesus could have stopped the crucification himself. Think about it, we're talking about a man that could heal the sick, raise the dead, and even split rivers so people could pass by. It was needed for Jesus to be crusified, it was the end of a phase. The world and how it works opperates in phases. Jesus came and offered himself as the ultimate sacrafice.

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Thu 02/18/10 09:24 AM

Oh but God did not allow his child to be killed. .


according to the belief God has absolute power over life and death ...unless of course if you dispute that God has such power.......but if you agree that God does have such power, then Jesus died because God allowed for his Child to die

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Thu 02/18/10 09:50 AM


Oh but God did not allow his child to be killed. .


according to the belief God has absolute power over life and death ...unless of course if you dispute that God has such power.......but if you agree that God does have such power, then Jesus died because God allowed for his Child to die


again just takeing one part instead of the entire message. Jesus came to be the ultmimate sacrafice and he knew it. Jesus had the choice he could have choose a different life style. He could have went on his marry little way and didn't tell us of all the things he told us. He could have not done the miracles he did in God's name. He choose to do all of these to fullfill what we call the old testiment and he knew the outcome of this but did it anyways because he knew that it was ment to be. Again if God would have stopped the crucification that would have been intervening in free will and the old testiment would not have been fullfilled. Yes i understand Jesus is in the new testiment, Jesus is the new testiment, thus resulting if Jesus would have not done all these things there would be no new testiment. And he DID ALL THESE THINGS WILLINGLY was not FORCED to do anything, he used his free will to uplift God our father.

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Thu 02/18/10 10:00 AM
"Main point here is there is nothing to fear on this earth with God on your side."

Nothing on this earth you say.

Tell that to a man who is watching an advancing mudslide swallow his entire village.

Bet there be some fear of the earth at that moment.

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Thu 02/18/10 10:03 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 02/18/10 10:04 AM

"Main point here is there is nothing to fear on this earth with God on your side."

Nothing on this earth you say.

Tell that to a man who is watching an advancing mudslide swallow his entire village.

Bet there be some fear of the earth at that moment.



good example of worldly thinking. What does it matter if your village gets swallowed up in mud when you'll get a palace and all the treasures you could imagine in heaven? Why do you wish to remain on this earth where their is disease, hunger, sickness, and many other terrible things?

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Thu 02/18/10 10:14 AM


"Main point here is there is nothing to fear on this earth with God on your side."

Nothing on this earth you say.

Tell that to a man who is watching an advancing mudslide swallow his entire village.

Bet there be some fear of the earth at that moment.



good example of worldly thinking. What does it matter if your village gets swallowed up in mud when you'll get a palace and all the treasures you could imagine in heaven? Why do you wish to remain on this earth where their is disease, hunger, sickness, and many other terrible things?

Because until EVERY human on earth can enter that palace I personally do not wish to...

I will remain as long as god allows so that I might help others get there...

The most terrible thing for me would be to leave even one human behind.

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Thu 02/18/10 11:29 AM



"Main point here is there is nothing to fear on this earth with God on your side."

Nothing on this earth you say.

Tell that to a man who is watching an advancing mudslide swallow his entire village.

Bet there be some fear of the earth at that moment.



good example of worldly thinking. What does it matter if your village gets swallowed up in mud when you'll get a palace and all the treasures you could imagine in heaven? Why do you wish to remain on this earth where their is disease, hunger, sickness, and many other terrible things?

Because until EVERY human on earth can enter that palace I personally do not wish to...

I will remain as long as god allows so that I might help others get there...

The most terrible thing for me would be to leave even one human behind.


leave them behind? No they have finished there life on earth and has moved on to what life is truely about. The ones that are worthy of going to heaven will not leave the lost behind, the none believers have done left the believers behind. Only one being wants people to parish in hell, Satan. God wants us all to go to heaven and has done a great deal of work towards getting us all there. For instance he gave his only begotten son to us so we could have eternal life and not parish in the lake of fire.

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Thu 02/18/10 11:45 AM

Every time I look at you
I don't understand
Why you let the things you did
Get so out of hand
You'd have managed better
If you'd had it planned
Now why'd you choose such a backward time
And such a strange land?

If you'd come today
You could have reached the whole nation
Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication
Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong

Only want to know, now
Only want to know

Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?

Tell me what you think
About your friends at the top
Now who d'you think besides yourself
Was the pick of the crop?
Buddah was he where it's at?
Is he where you are?
Could Muhammmed move a mountain
Or was that just PR?
Did you mean to die like that?
Was that a mistake or
Did you know your messy death
Would be a record breaker?

Don't you get me wrong Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong, now Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong Don't you get me wrong
Don't you get me wrong, now Don't you get me wrong

Only want to know Only want to know
Only want to know, now Only want to know
Only want to know Only want to know
Only want to know, now I only want to know

Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?

Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ
Who are you? What have you sacrificed?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are?
Jesus Christ
Superstar
Do you think you're what they say you are











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Thu 02/18/10 12:15 PM

again just takeing one part instead of the entire message. Jesus came to be the ultmimate sacrafice and he knew it.


Cowboy...you make it a point to say that no one ever dies ...so now explain what was this ultimate scarifice that Jesus supposedly made

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Thu 02/18/10 12:22 PM


again just takeing one part instead of the entire message. Jesus came to be the ultmimate sacrafice and he knew it.


Cowboy...you make it a point to say that no one ever dies ...so now explain what was this ultimate scarifice that Jesus supposedly made


he gave up his mortal body and his life on earth for all of us. And went through all the pain he did for each and everyone of us. The pain of the beatings he received previousely to having nails drove through the palm of his hands and being left hanging by those nails till he slowly passed away here on earth.

If you were put in that situation could you do the same for everyone?

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Thu 02/18/10 12:23 PM


again just takeing one part instead of the entire message. Jesus came to be the ultmimate sacrafice and he knew it.


Cowboy...you make it a point to say that no one ever dies ...so now explain what was this ultimate scarifice that Jesus supposedly made


also i never said NO ONE dies. Those that fall short of the glory of God will parish in the lake of fire. Only those that go to heaven will live for ever.

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Thu 02/18/10 12:24 PM

And on top of that, Jesus could have stopped the crucification himself.


that's because Jesus wanted to go to Heaven..he didn't want to stay here on Earth with the worldly heathens, but committing suicide is supposedly a sin so he had to find a way to get killed by the hands of someone else

today that type of behavior is called "sucide by cop" or in Jesus's case...suicide by roman guard


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Thu 02/18/10 12:28 PM

also i never said NO ONE dies. Those that fall short of the glory of God will parish in the lake of fire. Only those that go to heaven will live for ever.


Cowboy...Jesus was destined to sit on the right side hand of God and not be tossed into the lake of fire which means according to you Jesus will live forever anyway...so again can you explain what he scarificed

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Thu 02/18/10 12:32 PM


And on top of that, Jesus could have stopped the crucification himself.


that's because Jesus wanted to go to Heaven..he didn't want to stay here on Earth with the worldly heathens, but committing suicide is supposedly a sin so he had to find a way to get killed by the hands of someone else

today that type of behavior is called "sucide by cop" or in Jesus's case...suicide by roman guard




lol intentionally getting someone to kill you is still committing suicide. You can not hand someone a gun and tell them to shoot you till dead and expect that not to be treated as suicide because your actions of giving that person the gun and having him shoot you is bringing death upon you yourself.

Think about it funches, i meen truely think about it. If one can heal the sick, raise the dead, and even split rivers right up the middle for people to walk through why could he not do something to stop the crucification.

In those days people sacrificed things to be forgiven for there sins, eg., sacrificeing your strongest bull, sacrificing your most beautiful horse and so on for forgiveness of there sins. Jesus came and sacrificed himself so that we all will be forgiven of our trespasses.

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Thu 02/18/10 12:35 PM


also i never said NO ONE dies. Those that fall short of the glory of God will parish in the lake of fire. Only those that go to heaven will live for ever.


Cowboy...Jesus was destined to sit on the right side hand of God and not be tossed into the lake of fire which means according to you Jesus will live forever anyway...so again can you explain what he scarificed


Jesus sacrificed himself. He sacrificed himself to go through pain, humiliation, and his mortal body for us.

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Thu 02/18/10 12:37 PM



also i never said NO ONE dies. Those that fall short of the glory of God will parish in the lake of fire. Only those that go to heaven will live for ever.


Cowboy...Jesus was destined to sit on the right side hand of God and not be tossed into the lake of fire which means according to you Jesus will live forever anyway...so again can you explain what he scarificed


Jesus sacrificed himself. He sacrificed himself to go through pain, humiliation, and his mortal body for us.


Jeez..I'm doing that right now reading your posts

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Thu 02/18/10 12:47 PM




also i never said NO ONE dies. Those that fall short of the glory of God will parish in the lake of fire. Only those that go to heaven will live for ever.


Cowboy...Jesus was destined to sit on the right side hand of God and not be tossed into the lake of fire which means according to you Jesus will live forever anyway...so again can you explain what he scarificed


Jesus sacrificed himself. He sacrificed himself to go through pain, humiliation, and his mortal body for us.


Jeez..I'm doing that right now reading your posts


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl Superb reply. Anna x

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Thu 02/18/10 11:39 PM
Before I would say we do not die I wouold consider the scriptures and the last verse here in Revelations said by Yahshua himself who he was and what he did for everyone who is not evil as thier is a Judgement as the Valley of the Bones in Ezekiel speaks of as does Rev 19...Blessings of Shalom...Miles



Rev 1:5

5 And from Yahshua our Messiah, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead , and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
KJV

The OT speaks of the dead..

Eccl 9:5

5 For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing,
And they have no more reward,
For the memory of them is forgotten.
NKJV


Ezek 37:4-6

4 Again He said to me, "Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, 'O dry bones , hear the word of Yahweh! 5 Thus says Yahweh Elohim to these bones: "Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live. 6 I will put sinews on you and bring flesh upon you, cover you with skin and put breath in you; and you shall live. Then you shall know that I am Yahweh."'"
NKJV


And we all have a chance. Life is how you live the word whether in word or in actions.


Rev 20:11-15

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before Yahshua, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
NKJV


We need to get the Hell of The Eygptian Mythology out of our minds. They built great Pyramids to try and escape the Hell that is preached around the world.


All great men using slaves to try to keep themselves from entering a fiery Hell. Superstition.. learn what the Hell Fire and what and where the dead really go from the scriptures instead of hanginng on to the Traditions of the Elders who condemned Yahshua to this death yet knew not what they said or what they were doing. All because tradition was upheld over The Word of Yahweh..HalleluYah

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