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Topic: We're Headed Straight Off a Cliff If Health Care Passes
Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/21/10 03:11 PM
Democrats now readily admit that Medicare is full of waste, fraud and abuse, but they want us to believe they can run an even larger venture without throwing additional money away. Amazing!

President Obama again claimed in Saturday remarks to the House Democratic caucus that the bill will reduce the deficit by $1.3 trillion. He must know that isn’t true because the money “saved” from Medicare cuts will go to pay for new spending. Only in Washington can you save money and spend money at the same time.

Addressing critics of the bill, President Obama said no one is “going to pull the plug on grandma.” They won’t have to. Grandma will be denied treatment because she will be too much of a financial burden on government. It’s called rationing. Grandma had better start working out, eating lots of oatmeal and hope she doesn’t get sick. Why do you think the president kept mentioning sick children? It’s because children are the ones who will get the most – and best – treatment. Rahm Emanuel’s brother, Ezekiel, has said government has a right to decide how many health care dollars you are worth. And if children with a lifelong taxpaying potential are worth more than grandma who is taking more from the tax pot than she is contributing, that’s too bad for grandma.

The president also said the bill will save money by requiring only one test by the doctor “not five tests.” But what if the first test doesn’t reveal the nature of an illness? Suppose a cancer is hiding in one organ and the test is for cancer in another organ? A second (or fifth) test might reveal the location of the disease, but under Obamacare, a government bureaucrat will allow just one test. -- It’s a form of Russian roulette.

The president promised again “you can keep your doctor.” But what if the doctor quits because he or she can’t afford to accept reduced fees mandated by government to keep costs down, while paying ever-increasing premiums for malpractice insurance to protect the doctor from lawsuits, which, by the way, is another reason the doctor did so many tests.

Companies sometimes test-market new products in regions of the country to see how well they sell. Government-run health care has been test-marketed in Massachusetts and it is a disaster. The cost of the state’s insurance program has ballooned by 42 percent, or almost $600 million. According to an analysis by the Rand Corporation, “in the absence of policy change, health care spending in Massachusetts is projected to nearly double to $123 billion in 2020, increasing 8 percent faster than the state’s gross domestic product.”

The cost of insurance in Massachusetts is the highest in the nation. Double-digit rate increases are expected again this year. Yet, President Obama claimed Saturday that under the Democrats’ plan, rates will go down. How is this possible? If Massachusetts can’t run a cost-effective health program, how can the federal government? And by the way, the only reason Massachusetts has not gone broke (but is headed there) is because Washington has conducted large transfusions of cash because it has a vested interest in protecting the illusion of Massachusetts’ success.

The president said we should support the health insurance bill out of “a sense of neighborliness and community.” When I was growing up, that meant you, not government, helped your neighbor. Government was a last resort, not a first resource. Never has “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you” sounded more like an empty promise.

Remember when Democrats used to care about debt as a burden to our children and grandchildren? They claimed to care about debt when it was a “mere” $450 billion under George W. Bush. Now it’s headed toward the trillions. Where are the green eye-shade Democrats now? They’re spending us into debt as fast as the Treasury can print the money – or the Chinese will lend it to us. The interest on the national debt now exceeds the GDP of some countries.
Total U.S. debt has soared to an all-time high of 370 percent of yearly economic output. That far exceeds its peak of 300 percent during the Great Depression.

Jobs will be lost because of this bill. Already, Caterpiller Company is laying-off workers because it estimates the health care bill will cost the company $100 million.

Full Story................
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/03/20/cal-thomas-obama-health-care-reform-democrats-pelosi-republicans/

mrgary48's photo
Sun 03/21/10 03:16 PM
love to here a republican complain. seems funny when bush was wasting money in Iraq. your voice was not heard. or i,m i mistaking.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/21/10 03:25 PM

love to here a republican complain. seems funny when bush was wasting money in Iraq. your voice was not heard. or i,m i mistaking.


Seems funny that Obama has spend more in 100 days in office then President Bush did in 8 years huh? Seems funny that the MAJORITY of the nation (Republican, Democrats, Independants) are not buying the nonsense of this health care bill doesn't it?

If you need more proof, just look at the recent election of Scott Brown. He happend to win a senate seat in one of the most liberal states in the union. A state that hasn't had a republican Senator in decades. That didn't happen by chance, that happened to send a message to Washington that the health care bill isn't popular (a fact that was verified by exit polling).

This health care bill will pass, and we will be one step closer to socialism. All's im saying is watch the outcome in November because of it. Leading Democratic stragetists prodected that Republicans will take the house and Senate BEFORE the disaster of this bill, watch what will happen just because of that. It will be the 09 election all over again, this time nation wide.

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Sun 03/21/10 03:29 PM
Will right wingers ever get over the fact that there is no longer a Nazi in the white house?

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:08 PM

Will right wingers ever get over the fact that there is no longer a Nazi in the white house?


Seriously?

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:08 PM

Will right wingers ever get over the fact that there is no longer a Nazi in the white house?


uh oh, there's that spooky "Nazi" word againlaugh

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:11 PM

Will right wingers ever get over the fact that there is no longer a Nazi in the white house?


No, because there's still a Nazi in there-new name, same ol' ****. (not that I'm a right-winger)

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:16 PM
OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.


boredinaz06's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:24 PM

OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.





Obama is a jack a$$ like every other politician, nothing special at all about him.

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:25 PM


OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.





Obama is a jack a$$ like every other politician, nothing special at all about him.


speak for yourself,,lol, I find him rather eloquent, intelligent, and diplomatic as well as quite the family man,,, not quite like EVERY politician

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:43 PM



OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.





Obama is a jack a$$ like every other politician, nothing special at all about him.


speak for yourself,,lol, I find him rather eloquent, intelligent, and diplomatic as well as quite the family man,,, not quite like EVERY politician


Honestly I don't find making the head of state wait at a major event because he disagrees with what that country is doing very eloquent or diplomatic. Especially when the other country is a major special allie of our country and has been for over half a century.

On the another hand I do agree with you that he is intelligent and definately a family man. The way he is with his wife and daughters and the way he cares for them does impress me. Just like Bush's love for his family and Clintons love for his daughter impressed me.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:44 PM


OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.





Obama is a jack a$$ like every other politician, nothing special at all about him.


That's not true at all. There are some really good politician's out there on both sides of the aisle.

bedlum1's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:45 PM
wooooooooooo hooooooooooooooo
health care IS GOING TO PASS:banana: :banana: :banana: drinks

no photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:46 PM

Will right wingers ever get over the fact that there is no longer a Nazi in the white house?


Quite true ... there never was ... But now there's an avowed LENINIST COMMUNIST in there wearing 'short pants' while he sits in the Big Boy chair playing 'president' ...

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:47 PM



OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.





Obama is a jack a$$ like every other politician, nothing special at all about him.


That's not true at all. There are some really good politician's out there on both sides of the aisle.


If there's a politician with a heart beat, he/she is a crook!

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:49 PM



OBama came in under a MUCH different circumstance than George Bush, silly to even attempt a comparison unless its to compare speech patterns or time spent working or something like that...

as far as rationing,, healthcare is already rationed by the Insurance companies who see patients as numbers and decide who is more or less worthy of treatment than others.





Obama is a jack a$$ like every other politician, nothing special at all about him.


speak for yourself,,lol, I find him rather eloquent, intelligent, and diplomatic as well as quite the family man,,, not quite like EVERY politician


Oh no, I'm speakin' for everyone:wink:

Winx's photo
Sun 03/21/10 04:52 PM

wooooooooooo hooooooooooooooo
health care IS GOING TO PASS:banana: :banana: :banana: drinks


drinks

I wish that the public option was in it though. That's disappointing to me.
It does include closing up the doughnut holes in the Medicare prescription coverage though.

no photo
Sun 03/21/10 06:25 PM
Look to Wall street tomorrow for the answers....if stocks dive, you will have your answer. Businesses will put off any new hiring. If stocks go up, you will know you have been conned. If insurer stocks dive, you will see changes to your health insurance from the insurers that poor Congress never could have anticipated. If insurer stocks go up, you will know you have been conned.

Either way...it won't be good news.





RandomX's photo
Sun 03/21/10 07:29 PM
if 30% of Dr`s retire because of this bill we are dead screwed anyway Democrat or Republican...cause all REMAINING Dr`s will be flooded..

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 03/21/10 07:36 PM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Sun 03/21/10 07:37 PM

Will right wingers ever get over the fact that there is no longer a Nazi in the white house?


Going from a " Nazi " to a Socialist is better?? LMAO

Goodbye Hitler....Hello Castro.

Dude...the stuff you say just gets more and more absurd every day. LMAO

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