Genesis 1: 26
...God said, "Let us make man in our image......and let them rule......over all the creatures of the earth....


Genesis 2:16
...God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.......God commanded the man "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.

Clearly man was created different and was placed in different position than the animals.

However,..if the human chose to gain knowledge in a manner that was against God's advice,independent from God, then felt shame for it, ruining their relationship with God; the human gained more than just general knowledge,but the knowledge of good and evil.This does not make "knowledge" bad, just the manner in which it is gained. In this sense knowledge could be considered a "gift from Satan", but more correctly considered "bait from Satan"

God said let them rule, but you didn't list anything that Adam and Eve did that displayed that they actually ruled over the animals ...tilling the soil and giving animals names is not ruling them




or perhaps bait from God..Satan didn't place the tree of good and evil in the garden...God did ...

By definition you would make satan; God and God; satan.
The reason for the "tree" ....without a choice there is no free will, without free will there is no love, without love there is no intimate relationship, without relationship there is no life.

the fact that Adam and Eve were expelled from the garden of eden for making a choice only proves they had no "Free Will"... because using their supposed "Free Will" did "cost" Adam and Eve something and therefore wasn't "Free"

this is why only Gods have "Free Will" because they are supposedly omnipotent and not governed by choice that result in consequences to themselves

I believe you misunderstand "free will"; it does not mean 'without consequence".
The humans had the freedom Not to eat from the tree, which would have produced different consequences.
Free will is the freedom to chose, the result of the choice may be a cost or blessing or nothing; depending or on the choice.


In fact *thinking outside the box* The only thing you are not free to do is NOT choose; for not choosing is a choice in itself

Free will is just the ability to do anything. Gotta always keep in mind cause and effect. Free will doesn't mean there are no rules, it means you can break those if you wish, and the only reward for sin is death.

lol you posted almost the same thing i did while i was typing it lol. Great minds think alike i reckon.

explain how it can be "Free" ...if you have to "pay" consequences

Cowboy.... first you claim that "Free Will" gives you the ability to do "anything"...and in the same post you claim that there are rules ...if there are rules then that means that you can't do anything... and you are contradicting yourself

either you can do "anything" or you can't ....make up your mind

Not contradicting one bit. Just because you can do something does not mean you are allowed. Like i could go out and mass murder thousands of people. Or i could go out and help with charity. I have the FREE WILL to do any of that if i could, or even known if i choose.

Because it's not free in a sence of not having to pay for it. ALL FREE WILL means is you can physically do anything you want, and again with every action their is a reaction.

that's my point...you do not have the freedom to do anything you choose...hence no "Free Will" ...and just because you choose to do something that is allowed, doesn't mean you have the will or the power to actually do it

if it's not "Free In a Sense"...then it's not Free at all

But you still have the ability so therefor you still do have free will.

you don't have the ability to do anything you choose to do ....you may have the inspiration to do something but may not have the will or the ability to do it ...in other words...there are simply choices that you will make that you lack the ability to do

Who said you always have to pay consequences? Sometimes you are rewarded consequences, and sometimes there are no consequences.

What do you call it when that happens???

Free will = the freedom to exercise your will, (cost or not)

There is no free will in most religious environment. It is the ruse used to make the religious recruits understand why people will not choose to be a part of the religion.

Sorry, I do not understand what you are saying

no no no...Satan is a gift from knowledge!!

In most religious environments the "free will" is a ruse used to make the religious see choices others make outside of the followers religion as something god made/allowed to happen (showing no free will). Also there can be no free will in an environment with an entity that claims to know and influence what his/her/its subjects do.