there is evidence of slightly changing views as well ,,,,,by the admission on the part of the advertiser that this was an oversight,,instead of an ignorant attempt to excuse it,,,

I don't see a problem with this, there are loans and scholarships that only minorities can get so I see this as being fair!

When we see blatent displays of discrimination, such as described in the OP, many of us react in wide-eyed disbelief that anyone would have the gall to act with such disrespect.

But the shocking thing is, even though this kind of blatent, discrimination goes on around us every single day that so many are surprised when they actually see it or worse, experience it for the first time.

Recognition of this discrimination, or awareness from a personal perspective depends on your status in life, things like gender, age, race and ethnicity, gender preference, how much money you have or earn, where you live, your religious beliefs, and even how much you weigh.

The fact is that our government more than allows this kind of discrimintation, it is endorsed with official seals of approval, or it's ignored, or it's determined to exist for the sake of getting along. At times the highest authority in the land have been the writers of discrimination directly into law.

But we don't need to look too far to see how this discrimination is legally applied, accepted, and approved of (well maybe only approved of for not knowing better.

The nonprofit sector in this country is so large that if it were its own country it would be the 7th largest economy in the world.
(reference:(March 2009) Bridgeland & Reed - The Quit Crisis:The impact of the economic downturn on the nonprofit sector)

Nonprofits - all those wonderful charitable organizations on whom our Federal and State govenments depend to fill the gap of social outlets that they cannot - did you know they can discriminate in any way that is in accordance to it mission and its charter.

Open and Blatent Discrimination. Of course they have the right to limit the scope and realm of their charity, that makes sense to everyone, right? After all, a food bank is not going to be supplying legal advice or be a source of child advocacy. But they have the right to chose to whom their food will/can be distributed to. Like any NP organization, they may even have certain eligibility requirements, but that does not "entitle" the eligible to receive services - 'entitlement' is most often a matter of personal discretion.

Some have specific language such as "We serve the Christian community of ... town, city, whatever. JUST ONE EXAMPLE, I only used that one because it is widely prevalent. But believe it or not, some serve only Hispanic, or Black, or 'whatever' communities.

Now, some can justify that by saying these organizations have limited funds and resources and they were specifically founded to serve a particularly desparite sector of society.

If they were all soley dependent on donations or private funding and grants, There would be little argument against it. But, actually, both Federal and State grants are given to these organization, in fact very often, the State actually seeks them out or puts a call/request for such an organization to be created.

Federal and State - they only revenues are supposed to be our taxes.

While I really believe these organizations are needed and do some wonderful work - it's also very clear that what they are allowed to do is to act in a legally sanctions discriminatory manner.

This is ONE way in which discrimination in this country is allowed to persist and why so many individuals see nothing wrong with how they practice their own form of discrimination.

ETHICS cannot exist in ambiguity.

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those loans and scholarships do not force non minorities to participate in maintaining them


unlike the property taxes in our communities...

I agree in principle , but in practice,, when one is EXCLUDED from something (discriminated against) it is not discrimination for them to provide it for themselves,, in fact, many of those so called opposed to programs where SOME are supposedly 'forced' to include others,, become equally upset if those others decide to do it exclusively for themself

the only options there are when people are treated discriminatorily , are for them to sit back and do nothing or to ack in an equally selective manner for their own good

When we see blatent displays of discrimination, such as described in the OP, many of us react in wide-eyed disbelief that anyone would have the gall to act with such disrespect.

But the shocking thing is, even though this kind of blatent, discrimination goes on around us every single day that so many are surprised when they actually see it or worse, experience it for the first time.

Recognition of this discrimination, or awareness from a personal perspective depends on your status in life, things like gender, age, race and ethnicity, gender preference, how much money you have or earn, where you live, your religious beliefs, and even how much you weigh.

The fact is that our government more than allows this kind of discrimintation, it is endorsed with official seals of approval, or it's ignored, or it's determined to exist for the sake of getting along. At times the highest authority in the land have been the writers of discrimination directly into law.

But we don't need to look too far to see how this discrimination is legally applied, accepted, and approved of (well maybe only approved of for not knowing better.

The nonprofit sector in this country is so large that if it were its own country it would be the 7th largest economy in the world.
(reference:(March 2009) Bridgeland & Reed - The Quit Crisis:The impact of the economic downturn on the nonprofit sector)

Nonprofits - all those wonderful charitable organizations on whom our Federal and State govenments depend to fill the gap of social outlets that they cannot - did you know they can discriminate in any way that is in accordance to it mission and its charter.

Open and Blatent Discrimination. Of course they have the right to limit the scope and realm of their charity, that makes sense to everyone, right? After all, a food bank is not going to be supplying legal advice or be a source of child advocacy. But they have the right to chose to whom their food will/can be distributed to. Like any NP organization, they may even have certain eligibility requirements, but that does not "entitle" the eligible to receive services - 'entitlement' is most often a matter of personal discretion.

Some have specific language such as "We serve the Christian community of ... town, city, whatever. JUST ONE EXAMPLE, I only used that one because it is widely prevalent. But believe it or not, some serve only Hispanic, or Black, or 'whatever' communities.

Now, some can justify that by saying these organizations have limited funds and resources and they were specifically founded to serve a particularly desparite sector of society.

If they were all soley dependent on donations or private funding and grants, There would be little argument against it. But, actually, both Federal and State grants are given to these organization, in fact very often, the State actually seeks them out or puts a call/request for such an organization to be created.

Federal and State - they only revenues are supposed to be our taxes.

While I really believe these organizations are needed and do some wonderful work - it's also very clear that what they are allowed to do is to act in a legally sanctions discriminatory manner.

This is ONE way in which discrimination in this country is allowed to persist and why so many individuals see nothing wrong with how they practice their own form of discrimination.

ETHICS cannot exist in ambiguity.

Please provide more detail, you may have a point, but I'm not sure I follow it, can you expand? Thanks

I understand what you are saying here.

My issue is that in this country everyone did not start out as equal. Do you realize that the black family still suffers from generational effects of slavery? Current white discrimination furthers this damage everyday. Equality needs to be reached before we can get to a point of generic help organizations and generic help for school and jobs. Until intentional and unintentional white racists grow a brain the furtherance of our equality in this country is held back.

The responsibility lies with the whites in this country first because they have been the majority power and they were the perpetrators of the crimes against other races which in combination is oppression.

We freed the people and continued to abuse them. We freed the people after generations of keeping them uneducated and disadvantaged. We freed a group of people and left the oppressors in control of them.

I speak for black folks because that is my experience but it applies to all races of people.

Whites have to come to the plate with intelligence and understanding that other people's struggle is different from theirs because of what the whites of the past have done and some continue to do today.

This country was based from racism.

Until some whites realize this and understand that some traditional ways of thinking and actions are based from this biased past and are not right, we are doomed to have to over compensate by race.

Sorry Dragoness but I think you've misinterpreted. I was not talking specifically about racism, although it's obvious it still exists. I was commenting on how surprised people generally are to see such blatent discrimination (the OP just happened to be racist) but my comment was in general.

The point I was making is that We should not be so shocked because the our governments not only allow discrimination the authorize and use it when it serves their purpose.

As a nation, we seem to overlook this and that was my point.

For exampl - I'm completing some legal forms, one of the sections says something to the effect that "The government requests this section to be completed, if you choose not to complete it, your counsellor will complete based on their 'assumption' after speaking with you.

What they wanted to know is - are you: Hispanic, Black, American Indian, Caucasion.

OMG - I bet half of Americans cannot 'honestly' answer that question, our blood lines have been so mixed, who could know? So I refused, let them put what they want, their guess is as good as mine.

Real Estate Firm Puts Up a Sign for 'Whites Only'

By Boyce Watkins, PhD on Jun 8th 2010 9:43AM
Filed under: News, Politics, Race and Civil Rights




Real Estate Firm Puts Up a Sign for 'Whites Only'

A law firm recently put property on the market, stating that the land was for sale to "whites only." A complaint was filed with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination as a result of the sign. The legal notice, which appeared May 17th, was a reprint of the language in the deed of the property, stating:

"The said land shall not be sold, leased or rented to any person other than of the Caucasian race."

The statement was placed in the New Bedford Standard-Times.

Both the newspaper and the law firm placing the ad issued an apology:

''We do not condone the language and do not believe that it would be enforceable. It is industry practice to include in the notice of sale the exact legal description as set forth in the mortgage,'' said Harmon Law in a statement. And Mary Harrington, the publisher of the newspaper, said, ''It was a gross error on our part to publish the notice and we sincerely apologize to our readers.''

The ads were generated by scanning deeds of properties that have been subject to foreclosure. The high number of foreclosure notices is what led to the oversight. Mandi Costa, a resident of New Bedford, is the one who filed the complaint.

''I was shocked when I read it,'' Costa said. ''I did a lot of research and found out that this used to be a common practice in property deeds. It just goes to show that racism and discrimination is still out there.''

Obviously, the world is a better place because of Ms. Costa's complaint. The ad also reminds us that although our nation has changed dramatically since the days of slavery and Jim Crow, there are quite a few remnants of discrimination in our society. In fact, I would argue that language such as this in a property deed is among the least dangerous forms of residual racism in our society.

More damaging reminders of racial inequality, which are created by past racism, are asymmetries in America's systemic power structures, where African Americans find themselves on the bottom rung of opportunity and access.

For example, many corporations do not have African-American managers, universities don't hire African-American professors and prisons are full of black people. None of these disparities occurred overnight and are primarily the result of inherited power and opportunity constructs that started during slavery and Jim Crow.

One of the reasons I was so disturbed about the Supreme Court nomination of former Harvard Dean Elena Kagan was because Kagan simply followed Harvard tradition closely and hired zero tenured or tenure track black faculty members during her time as dean. In Harvard's 250-year history, it has been a closely held tradition to keep African-American faculty out of the law school.

These hiring practices occur within universities and corporations across America and are nothing more than the result of brainless commitment to dysfunctional traditions. If we do not directly confront remnants of past discrimination, they will continue to haunt and cripple our society. We must all work deliberately for the next 100 years to fulfill the dreams of Dr. Martin L. King Jr. and clean up the mess from our country's unfortunate conduct.

It is because of such a commitment that I have agreed to speak at the march on Washington on August 28th, the 47th anniversary of the original march by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. We have a lot of work to do in order to make our country what it was meant to be. We must all make a contribution.

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Reminders of the racist origin of this country never fail to amaze me at the supposed intelligence of our fore fathers and their utter failure in this area.

Yes, of course. Lets use the example where half a dozen girls and half a dozen guys are in the park and decide they would like to play soccer,,, but the guys say to the girls 'we dont want to play soccer with you'. The guys have brought the soccer balls and the nets, etc,,and begin to set up a game in which the GIRLS are not permitted to participate. So, the girls then go get their own equipment, and set up their own game. Now, both groups have decided to set up a pretty exclusive situation, except the girls were FORCED into their decision(if they wanted to play soccer, that is) and the guys were afforded the privilege of deciding either way and CHOSE exclusion.

Many who complain about some programs for minorities fail to aknowledge the significant difference between choosing to behave in an exclusive manner and being forced into adopting an exclusive manner. They tell minorities on one hand, that they should not ask for assistance from others,, but then if minorities do in fact assemble or organize things for themselves some of those same people complain about that too...

Of course.

Minorities need the handicap as long as racists believe this is alright.