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Topic: Illegal Immigrant Killed Nun in DUI Crash
FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 08/03/10 01:25 PM

Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


--FearandLoathing's stamp of approval.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/03/10 02:12 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Tue 08/03/10 02:14 PM



This is a sad story and it's horrible that someone was killed. However, DUIs and accidents like this are not solely things that happen because of illegals. Many American citizens have done the same thing. Not to say that it's ok, but this isn't just an issue with illegals.


Maybe this one could have been avoided if he been deported WHILE he was in jail for his first dui...so theres 2-3 laws he's breaking and still around to kill someone.


Not if you believe in god.

There are no accidents in the religious world.

When it is your time you will die, otherwise you will not die.

Agree with Sing, accidents are accidents and people are people. People are stupid so people make accidents happen.


Perpetuating the hatred of illegals is a Fox Favorite past time.


i don't disagree with this, i kind of believe it myself. but this tragedy could have been easily avoided. and i would put all the blame on the feds on this one. the man was arrested at least 2 times before and not deported. it can also be looked at like it's an act of god to to help understand why we should be deporting too.

cityblues21's photo
Tue 08/03/10 04:00 PM
Story can be twisted to match anyone's views.. believe in God? Her Time to go? Just an accident?

No accident that a grown man got behind the wheel after drinking and killed someone... finally... what on his third time for a DUI? Third times a charm if you want to believe in fate? or karma?

Supposedly God gave mankind free will... and how mankind uses it is what creates the world we now live in. We have laws, most of which were based on God's law of respect and thoughtfulness of other people besides ourselves. The guy chose to drink and drive therefore he is responsible for this. But first of all he broke the law by being here illegally... so if he wasn't here on the road.. perhaps this accident may not have happened. Sure, the nun would have died.. but perhaps just a small private death... not one to make headlines and bring attention to such a thing as "illegal immigration" MADD should like this story also... as it helps their cause even further.

Then again... you could say God wanted this to happen... to point out that when the smallest laws are not abided by...(illegal entry) a chain of consequences may occur. So maybe God willed this to happen to point out the problem of illegal immigration and the nun was Job in this case. All of this if you want to believe in God.

But you don't have to believe to know that it is wrong...

Twist it how you want... the guy had no business being on the road... period. Illegal, drunk etc. And he certainly did not learn anything from his previous 2 episodes of receiving a DUI. The enforcement of the laws that are already in place have become too lax in fear of retaliation from groups proclaiming "racist, unfair, etc." The people who live and work here legally are just not adequately being protected any longer. And yes, that does make people think with the mentality of if the law won't or can't do the job.. well the people will do it themselves. Not saying that is right... but people do tend to think in terms of self preservation...

Who wants their mother, father, sister, brother, or child just ripped from life... because everyone else decides to sit around and say... "oh that was supposed to happen?" It was fate? it was an accident?

The word accident is derived from the Latin verb accidere, signifying "fall upon, befall, happen, chance." In its most commonly accepted meaning, or in its ordinary or popular sense, the word may be defined as meaning: some sudden and unexpected event taking place without expectation, upon the instant, rather than something that continues, progresses or develops; something happening by chance; something unforeseen, unexpected, unusual, extraordinary, or phenomenal, taking place not according to the usual course of things or events, out of the range of ordinary calculations; that which exists or occurs abnormally, or an uncommon occurrence. The word may be employed as denoting a calamity, casualty, catastrophe, disaster, an undesirable or unfortunate happening; any unexpected personal injury resulting from any unlooked for mishap or occurrence; any unpleasant or unfortunate occurrence that causes injury, loss, suffering, or death; some untoward occurrence aside from the usual course of events. An event that takes place without one's foresight or expectation; an undesigned, sudden, and unexpected event.

The guy drank... and drove... It is not an unexpected event that people are not as capable at operating automobiles after consumption. The chance of being unable to operate a vehicle safely is not an accident. It is a fact that reflexes and perception are much less after drinking. He purposely got behind the wheel...after already having had previous DUI's, so not an accident.




willing2's photo
Tue 08/03/10 04:23 PM
I agree.

No accident.

The only folks who can just say, oh well, give the drunk another free pass, have never experienced someone close to the taken by a drunk driver.

Well, for them, there is karma.




mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/03/10 09:52 PM

I agree.

No accident.

The only folks who can just say, oh well, give the drunk another free pass, have never experienced someone close to the taken by a drunk driver.

Well, for them, there is karma.





he had 2 "free passes"... now he killed someone... is that not enough?
if people want to talk about "gods will", i think it's gods will that we start deporting people.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/03/10 09:59 PM

Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


honestly, you can't find them all? are u insane? they not only found him, but caught him twice. and let him go to kill someone finally. is that justice in america? wake up, there is a problem here and peoples coddling is not going to help. sure, there is lots of LEGAL people here that drive drunk, but why should we have to put up with the ILLEGAL breaking more than one law at a time????

d24's photo
Tue 08/03/10 10:00 PM
Its INSANE!

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/03/10 10:03 PM

Its INSANE!


lol laugh laugh

misterfreeze's photo
Tue 08/03/10 11:07 PM


Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


honestly, you can't find them all? are u insane? they not only found him, but caught him twice. and let him go to kill someone finally. is that justice in america? wake up, there is a problem here and peoples coddling is not going to help. sure, there is lots of LEGAL people here that drive drunk, but why should we have to put up with the ILLEGAL breaking more than one law at a time????


I was speaking broadly, not just about this one guy. Plus NO they can't find them all. D@mn Canadians look just like us. Or did we forget they was illegal also?

Also I'm not coddling anybody. The guy really should have been deported. George W. shouldn't have been voted in a 2nd term. Steve Irwin should have watched out for the sting ray. George Lopez shouldn't have a late show. We can go on and on with would of, should of, could of's, but it doesn't change anything.

Your right though. We shouldn't have to deal with illegals breaking the law, but honestly does it make a difference if they are legal, illegal or a paralegal? The law was still broken. I don't care who broke it. Just punish the person. If you want to get mad at somebody you should get mad at the people who kept letting him go. Just a FYI it wasn't me. My money is on a flag waving, truck driving, fox news watching Amuricun.

If you notice I haven't argued against any of your points. I just simply pointed out the bass akwards cluster f#ck thinking that makes Bubba, Spitty, Ol' Jeb and the rest of the knights proud.
" let's gather up all them there e'llegals. Put'em all in one big box and catapult that son'b!tch back to Tijuana. Yup!" I'm just saying it's not that easy and it won't EVER happen.

I just see people as people. If I show compassion for a guy who's life sucks. He's a raging alcoholic and his disease lead him to accidentally kill somebody. Now he get's to spend prison time and then get deported back to Village of the dead Donkeys. An that makes me seem "insane" then I'm happy. At least I know I'm doing something different than the method that fails miserably.

"now enough with the name calling you big meanie or your so getting a wedgie at lunch time."

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/03/10 11:21 PM



Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


honestly, you can't find them all? are u insane? they not only found him, but caught him twice. and let him go to kill someone finally. is that justice in america? wake up, there is a problem here and peoples coddling is not going to help. sure, there is lots of LEGAL people here that drive drunk, but why should we have to put up with the ILLEGAL breaking more than one law at a time????


I was speaking broadly, not just about this one guy. Plus NO they can't find them all. D@mn Canadians look just like us. Or did we forget they was illegal also?

Also I'm not coddling anybody. The guy really should have been deported. George W. shouldn't have been voted in a 2nd term. Steve Irwin should have watched out for the sting ray. George Lopez shouldn't have a late show. We can go on and on with would of, should of, could of's, but it doesn't change anything.

Your right though. We shouldn't have to deal with illegals breaking the law, but honestly does it make a difference if they are legal, illegal or a paralegal? The law was still broken. I don't care who broke it. Just punish the person. If you want to get mad at somebody you should get mad at the people who kept letting him go. Just a FYI it wasn't me. My money is on a flag waving, truck driving, fox news watching Amuricun.

If you notice I haven't argued against any of your points. I just simply pointed out the bass akwards cluster f#ck thinking that makes Bubba, Spitty, Ol' Jeb and the rest of the knights proud.
" let's gather up all them there e'llegals. Put'em all in one big box and catapult that son'b!tch back to Tijuana. Yup!" I'm just saying it's not that easy and it won't EVER happen.

I just see people as people. If I show compassion for a guy who's life sucks. He's a raging alcoholic and his disease lead him to accidentally kill somebody. Now he get's to spend prison time and then get deported back to Village of the dead Donkeys. An that makes me seem "insane" then I'm happy. At least I know I'm doing something different than the method that fails miserably.

"now enough with the name calling you big meanie or your so getting a wedgie at lunch time."


if someone is here ILLEGALY, they should be deported. we as legals here have to follow the laws or else. why should someone from another country do as they please not not follow the laws when we have to. they don't pay taxes, we do... they don't vote, we do.they can break any law and go home, we pay for it. it doesn't matter what country they are from, they need to do things the right way. it is really not that hard to find them...but who cares about finding them when the damned GOVERNMENT JUST LETS THEM GO ANYWAY? i'm not trying to call anyone names, they had this piece of $#%# at least 2 times, and let him go. if there is no respect for enforcing the law, no one will respect it.

no photo
Wed 08/04/10 05:35 AM

I agree.

No accident.

The only folks who can just say, oh well, give the drunk another free pass, have never experienced someone close to the taken by a drunk driver.

Well, for them, there is karma.






Where did someone say to give the drunk another free pass?

no photo
Wed 08/04/10 05:50 AM


Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


honestly, you can't find them all? are u insane? they not only found him, but caught him twice. and let him go to kill someone finally. is that justice in america? wake up, there is a problem here and peoples coddling is not going to help. sure, there is lots of LEGAL people here that drive drunk, but why should we have to put up with the ILLEGAL breaking more than one law at a time????


I completely agree that he should have been gone well before now.

If you think you can find all the illegals with no problem, go for it.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 08/04/10 10:45 AM



Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


honestly, you can't find them all? are u insane? they not only found him, but caught him twice. and let him go to kill someone finally. is that justice in america? wake up, there is a problem here and peoples coddling is not going to help. sure, there is lots of LEGAL people here that drive drunk, but why should we have to put up with the ILLEGAL breaking more than one law at a time????


I completely agree that he should have been gone well before now.

If you think you can find all the illegals with no problem, go for it.


Sheriff Joe sure hasn't had a problem finding them, hes caught ver 28,000 in less then two years.

I saw we put him incharge of ICE and we will see almost all of them tracked down.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 08/04/10 10:48 AM




Well Fox news likes to make stuff up from time to time. Not saying this didn't happen, but any issue that can strengthen their less than Nazi, but as high as you can go right wing view they will exploit the hell out of.

Should he be deported now? No, he killed someone here and should have to face the time. (Her being a Nun should have nothing to do with this issue.)

Should he have been deported before hand? Yeah, but honestly you can't find them all. Plus most are here because, think about it. They live in dog P!ss. You look across a fence and see a McDonald's or you look behind you and see a dead coyote. Which one would you go after. Clean restrooms or a hepatitis hole? That's all off topic though so just skip that.

All this is going to do. Is get all the Bubba, redneck, KKK members standing around a portion of a fence beating the hell out of people who just want their children to have a better life.

Then the Skin-heads will show in their militant fashion and all of a sudden we have a body count.

This Nun who even her fellow sisters said would be the 1st to forgive this man. Will be used as a martyr to fuel more hate than good.

The man will have to live with his guilt the rest of his life. He should have to do the prison time here, then be deported back. This kind of stuff happens everyday, but when Billy-Bob Rufus from down the street does it, for some reason it doesn't make that big of a splash.

Just fuel for the hate machine. I have an idea let's tell them all they have to take a shower then gas the hell out of them. Throw their carcass on the fire to keep the steam engine of this hate train going.

Humanity is so D@mn dumb (I count myself with this). I absolutely abhor to call my self "Human". We are the nastiest things that has ever crawled on this planet.


honestly, you can't find them all? are u insane? they not only found him, but caught him twice. and let him go to kill someone finally. is that justice in america? wake up, there is a problem here and peoples coddling is not going to help. sure, there is lots of LEGAL people here that drive drunk, but why should we have to put up with the ILLEGAL breaking more than one law at a time????


I was speaking broadly, not just about this one guy. Plus NO they can't find them all. D@mn Canadians look just like us. Or did we forget they was illegal also?

Also I'm not coddling anybody. The guy really should have been deported. George W. shouldn't have been voted in a 2nd term. Steve Irwin should have watched out for the sting ray. George Lopez shouldn't have a late show. We can go on and on with would of, should of, could of's, but it doesn't change anything.

Your right though. We shouldn't have to deal with illegals breaking the law, but honestly does it make a difference if they are legal, illegal or a paralegal? The law was still broken. I don't care who broke it. Just punish the person. If you want to get mad at somebody you should get mad at the people who kept letting him go. Just a FYI it wasn't me. My money is on a flag waving, truck driving, fox news watching Amuricun.

If you notice I haven't argued against any of your points. I just simply pointed out the bass akwards cluster f#ck thinking that makes Bubba, Spitty, Ol' Jeb and the rest of the knights proud.
" let's gather up all them there e'llegals. Put'em all in one big box and catapult that son'b!tch back to Tijuana. Yup!" I'm just saying it's not that easy and it won't EVER happen.

I just see people as people. If I show compassion for a guy who's life sucks. He's a raging alcoholic and his disease lead him to accidentally kill somebody. Now he get's to spend prison time and then get deported back to Village of the dead Donkeys. An that makes me seem "insane" then I'm happy. At least I know I'm doing something different than the method that fails miserably.

"now enough with the name calling you big meanie or your so getting a wedgie at lunch time."


if someone is here ILLEGALY, they should be deported. we as legals here have to follow the laws or else. why should someone from another country do as they please not not follow the laws when we have to. they don't pay taxes, we do... they don't vote, we do.they can break any law and go home, we pay for it. it doesn't matter what country they are from, they need to do things the right way. it is really not that hard to find them...but who cares about finding them when the damned GOVERNMENT JUST LETS THEM GO ANYWAY? i'm not trying to call anyone names, they had this piece of $#%# at least 2 times, and let him go. if there is no respect for enforcing the law, no one will respect it.


If I ever did something illegal and got caught my defence would be discrimination. Why are you pressing charges on me, is it because of my skin color or hair color? Why do you pick and choose laws that you prosecute? It has to be descrimination. Then I will bring in the illegal arguement who EACH ONE is committing a FELONY for just being here.

oldsage's photo
Wed 08/04/10 10:54 AM

Faux news so it probably isn't true at allnoway

But if the nun's religion is right, it was her time, her god called her, so she wouldn't have cared who did it, right?

No pun intended at all.

When accidents happen , if you believe in god, it was divine intervention.

I think this same story gets posted monthly or something on here.

It doesn't matter who is involved in an accident. It is an accident, not intentional.




Not intentional?

You would NOT talk like that if a drunk driver killed a member of your family, or maybe you would?

Lpdon's photo
Wed 08/04/10 10:57 AM


Faux news so it probably isn't true at allnoway

But if the nun's religion is right, it was her time, her god called her, so she wouldn't have cared who did it, right?

No pun intended at all.

When accidents happen , if you believe in god, it was divine intervention.

I think this same story gets posted monthly or something on here.

It doesn't matter who is involved in an accident. It is an accident, not intentional.




Not intentional?

You would NOT talk like that if a drunk driver killed a member of your family, or maybe you would?


They lose ALL credibility when they make a play on words like that. Not to mention Fox News is the most trusted news network out there.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 08/28/10 02:20 AM
I read online about a simular situation recently that involved an illegal.

Is it not enough that they are committing a Felony by being here illegally, so obviously breaking the law doesn't bother them.

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