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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,,  nope TRUE americans do all types of hateful things ,and alot of those things are perfectly legal (unlike violence against those who believe in something different than we do) |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. think about it... what is more anti American... destroying a flag, or disrupting a fallen soldiers funeral? both are a negative on the country, but if i saw someone acting lick a nuttick at a soldiers funeral, i would make sure they thought twice about it before they did it again. disturbing a funeral is much more disturbing to me, but still not worthy of violence if someone doesnt leave private property when asked, it is still illegal to put your hands on them, the law requires you call police unless you are threatened with bodily harm,,, |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. think about it... what is more anti American... destroying a flag, or disrupting a fallen soldiers funeral? both are a negative on the country, but if i saw someone acting lick a nuttick at a soldiers funeral, i would make sure they thought twice about it before they did it again. disturbing a funeral is much more disturbing to me, but still not worthy of violence if someone doesnt leave private property when asked, it is still illegal to put your hands on them, the law requires you call police unless you are threatened with bodily harm,,, they would be calling the cops on me... |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,,  Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger'  someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. Especially to those who've worn the uniform and served under it ... it will never be 'just a piece of cloth' ... I know soldiers who would disagree, they arent protecting a FLAG They are protecting flesh and blood PEOPLE I Know a ton of active, reserve and veterans and not one of them would agree. If anyone I know saw a flag being destroyed there would be problems. |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. think about it... what is more anti American... destroying a flag, or disrupting a fallen soldiers funeral? both are a negative on the country, but if i saw someone acting lick a nuttick at a soldiers funeral, i would make sure they thought twice about it before they did it again. disturbing a funeral is much more disturbing to me, but still not worthy of violence if someone doesnt leave private property when asked, it is still illegal to put your hands on them, the law requires you call police unless you are threatened with bodily harm,,, The hell it does. When I did Loss Prevention for Albertsonss we would get drunks and people causing problems all the time. We owned the property and building so it was private property. All's we were required to do is ask them to leave or they will be arrested for tresspassing, if they don't leave we cuff them right up and take them to the office and call the police. The law allows that. |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. think about it... what is more anti American... destroying a flag, or disrupting a fallen soldiers funeral? both are a negative on the country, but if i saw someone acting lick a nuttick at a soldiers funeral, i would make sure they thought twice about it before they did it again. disturbing a funeral is much more disturbing to me, but still not worthy of violence if someone doesnt leave private property when asked, it is still illegal to put your hands on them, the law requires you call police unless you are threatened with bodily harm,,, The hell it does. When I did Loss Prevention for Albertsonss we would get drunks and people causing problems all the time. We owned the property and building so it was private property. All's we were required to do is ask them to leave or they will be arrested for tresspassing, if they don't leave we cuff them right up and take them to the office and call the police. The law allows that. your JOB allowed it, the law doesnt allow the same for private citizens |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. think about it... what is more anti American... destroying a flag, or disrupting a fallen soldiers funeral? both are a negative on the country, but if i saw someone acting lick a nuttick at a soldiers funeral, i would make sure they thought twice about it before they did it again. disturbing a funeral is much more disturbing to me, but still not worthy of violence if someone doesnt leave private property when asked, it is still illegal to put your hands on them, the law requires you call police unless you are threatened with bodily harm,,, The hell it does. When I did Loss Prevention for Albertsonss we would get drunks and people causing problems all the time. We owned the property and building so it was private property. All's we were required to do is ask them to leave or they will be arrested for tresspassing, if they don't leave we cuff them right up and take them to the office and call the police. The law allows that. your JOB allowed it, the law doesnt allow the same for private citizens Yes it does if theo owner of the property authorizes them to, which most will allow. |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,, Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger' someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. really, do you regularly attack construction workers drilling into concrete? |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,, Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger' someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. really, do you regularly attack construction workers drilling into concrete? That is completely different, they arn't protesting and causing a public incident. |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,, Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger' someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. really, do you regularly attack construction workers drilling into concrete? That is completely different, they arn't protesting and causing a public incident. what was posted implied that ANYONE burning a flag should be dealt with by the law or by some sort of assault,,,, also, protests are not legal cause to assault whomever spends THEIR money to purchase something(whatever that something is) is free by law to do whatever they chose to with it as long as it doesnt cause physical harm to another or anothers property that goes for FLAGS too |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,, Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger' someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. really, do you regularly attack construction workers drilling into concrete? That is completely different, they arn't protesting and causing a public incident. what was posted implied that ANYONE burning a flag should be dealt with by the law or by some sort of assault,,,, also, protests are not legal cause to assault whomever spends THEIR money to purchase something(whatever that something is) is free by law to do whatever they chose to with it as long as it doesnt cause physical harm to another or anothers property that goes for FLAGS too That doesn't change the fact that they make me fear for my safety, which is legal cause right there. |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,, Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger' someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. really, do you regularly attack construction workers drilling into concrete? That is completely different, they arn't protesting and causing a public incident. what was posted implied that ANYONE burning a flag should be dealt with by the law or by some sort of assault,,,, also, protests are not legal cause to assault whomever spends THEIR money to purchase something(whatever that something is) is free by law to do whatever they chose to with it as long as it doesnt cause physical harm to another or anothers property that goes for FLAGS too That doesn't change the fact that they make me fear for my safety, which is legal cause right there. only if its reasonable to a jury,,,could I say the child eating an ice cream bar made me fear for my safety so I pushed him? doubtful just claiming something made you fear your safety isnt enough unless you are a cop...lol however, if someone is stationary and burning their flag, and someone else actually APPROACHES them in a threatening manner,, the first party will have the right to lay the second party out and be LEGALLY justified |
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A flag is more then just a piece of cloth to the majority of Americans. than that majority shouldnt desecrate one if they purchase it but if anyone chooses to desecrate THEIR OWN property(whatever it is),, its their business... Spoken like someone who hasn't ever done anything to support their country. spoken like someone prone to ASSumptions,,, true americans are only military and politicians,,right? I have worked at shelters and with displaced children, but I guess thats not AMERICAN enough,,, keep up the very AMERICAN divisive talk ,, its so appealing No TRUE American's give back to their country and community every chance they get. I volunteer in the community atleast ten hours a week. That's on top of all the political work I do working on over five to ten campaigns at a time. well congrats to you...true american what do your kids do during all this campaign time,,sorry I just put my kids above politics, my 'free' time(when Im not being a mother, running errands, cooking meals, cleaning, doing laundry, or reading with my child) is spent studying, trying to stay fit, and working to earn my degree and looking for employment, I give (although not to political campaigns)when and where I can and single parenthood doesnt allow me a set schedule of FREE hours, I do what I can during the times I can Kid's? I only have one and she goes with me. She loves politics more then I do, and she's really good at campaigning. She even got to ride around with Governor Gibbons and I in the campaign bus for a weekend, just 4 of us in there. Not many kids her age get to experience things like that and it is partially why I am as involved as I am. thats great, and I am not being fecetious,,,when my daughter is older (she is still too young for school, only three) I plan to get her involved in a ministry to help others too I care more about how people treat each other and carry themself than I do about a design on some cloth or what lapel they choose to wear or not wear,,,,,,, if thats not true american,,,than so be it It's not just a design on a piece of cloth. It is a symbol of America and what we are fighting for. as a christian, I dont put materials on a pedastal a cross is supposedly the SYMBOL of christs sacrifice, but if SOMEONE buys a cross and then chooses to throw it in the fire,, I really dont care,,, thats THEIR property to do as they wish, and its more about the things they do and say in their life than what property they own or what they choose to do with it I dont have issue with anyone who praises or worships the flag, thats their choice I just choose not to,,,for the reasons stated before,,, Throwing a cross is different then trowing an American Flag. Personally if I saw someone destroy an American Flag they would be getting dealt with and going to jail will be the least of their concerns. so nice to know such law abiding americans are out there willing to uphold the 'true' american way,,, I guarantee I wouldn't be charged with ANYTHING. of course . 'TRUE' americans are much to sly to admit to or be caught in their own wrongdoing,,,TRUE americans are always justified in the harm they cause,,, Self defence and fear for my safety is justifiable under US laws. Id love to hear the sound legal reasoning behind that 'your honor, I saw him burn his (shirt, homework, flag) and I thought my life was in danger' someone destroying their own property would not be upheld as reason to fear for your personal safety no it would be, "Your honor, this person while in the middle of a violent and threatening demonstration yelled profanities at me and came twords me making me fear for my safety to the point where I had to defend myself" I know how to word a police report and testify in court. I also know all the penal codes and how to talk to the cops(not to mention im friends with most of them), I wouldn't be going to jail anytime soon. oh, so perjury AND assault because of what someone chose to do with their own property? how TRULY american,,, It woouldnt be purjury, because I honestly would fear for my safety with someone violently destroying something within a few feet of me. really, do you regularly attack construction workers drilling into concrete? That is completely different, they arn't protesting and causing a public incident. what was posted implied that ANYONE burning a flag should be dealt with by the law or by some sort of assault,,,, also, protests are not legal cause to assault whomever spends THEIR money to purchase something(whatever that something is) is free by law to do whatever they chose to with it as long as it doesnt cause physical harm to another or anothers property that goes for FLAGS too That doesn't change the fact that they make me fear for my safety, which is legal cause right there. only if its reasonable to a jury,,,could I say the child eating an ice cream bar made me fear for my safety so I pushed him? doubtful just claiming something made you fear your safety isnt enough unless you are a cop...lol however, if someone is stationary and burning their flag, and someone else actually APPROACHES them in a threatening manner,, the first party will have the right to lay the second party out and be LEGALLY justified Actuually it only goes before a jury in Nevada if it's a Felony, not a misdemenor. At minimum it would be simple assault if it wasn't determined self defense, but I guarantee it would never go that way. It would be labeled self defence, PERIOD. |
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Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm that word REASONABLE is pretty important,, how will one reasonably claim they felt threatened and yet APPROACH the threat when there are clear avenues for escape or prevention? |
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Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm. http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm that word REASONABLE is pretty important,, how will one reasonably claim they felt threatened and yet APPROACH the threat when there are clear avenues for escape or prevention? You think I would use deadly force? There a defernece between knocking someone out and using deadly force, by the way. Don't quote the laws to me sweety, I know ALL of them since over the past ten uears I have made arrests on almost all of them. |
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Also I know how to write a police report and talk to the police and testify in court. I also have happened to be a consultant for both of the District Attorney's up here and three out of the four judges in Carson City and two of them in Reno. I'm not worried.
Not to mention I have NEVER perjured myself. I have testified in over 200 cases of arrests I have made. |
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Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm. http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm that word REASONABLE is pretty important,, how will one reasonably claim they felt threatened and yet APPROACH the threat when there are clear avenues for escape or prevention? You think I would use deadly force? There a defernece between knocking someone out and using deadly force, by the way. Don't quote the laws to me sweety, I know ALL of them since over the past ten uears I have made arrests on almost all of them. I imagine knocking someone out might count as 'great bodily harm' noone has a legal right to physically harm another unless they are in DIRECT danger(except for police) |
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Duret Dabger us akk interpertation and knowing how to talk to the cops and word your police report.
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Edited by
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Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm. http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm that word REASONABLE is pretty important,, how will one reasonably claim they felt threatened and yet APPROACH the threat when there are clear avenues for escape or prevention? You think I would use deadly force? There a defernece between knocking someone out and using deadly force, by the way. Don't quote the laws to me sweety, I know ALL of them since over the past ten uears I have made arrests on almost all of them. that sense of reality is quite frightening do you realize how many LAWS there are? |
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