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| Topic: Why do men always put the blame on women! | |
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I did not call Divine a harlot. A harlot is a prostitute who exchanges sex for money. Divine is no harlot. I talked about the messages that Divine's behavior sent to her now-ex-boyfriend. She ended up being used by the guy because of the messages that she sent. I am not going to tell Divine how to live because that isn't my job. Still, she needs to know how men may perceive her as a result of her chosen behavior. I do not want her to become the target of another jerk. And how do you think men perceive her as a result of her behavior? Seeing as many women here have had sex with a man without being married, you're talking about more than just the OP. And what you're telling us when you say the way men may perceive her (or anyone else who has sex outside of marriage) is really the way you perceive her, right? |
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so tell her all of those things, but you don't get her to pay attention by first slapping her in the face. and then point out just how much better of a person you "think" you are because you are more virtuous than she is. Who said anything about being more virtuous? No me. I was in her same situation (with me being the one abused). My behavior was no different than hers. Granted, the genders are reversed, but I was where Divine is now. I write about these things because I have been there. |
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What is Divine to do to avoid being an easy target for another jerk? We all get hurt that is life.. Perhaps she'll learn to not do every single thing for him and let him be a lazy azz bum and do nothing... Which has NOTHING whatsoever to do with sleeping with him and living with him without being married... There's no back pedaling, you said what you said IT WAS WRONG and in no way is backed up by what you're trying to change it to mean! |
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What is Divine to do to avoid being an easy target for another jerk? well, according to what you are saying.....join a convent |
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so tell her all of those things, but you don't get her to pay attention by first slapping her in the face. and then point out just how much better of a person you "think" you are because you are more virtuous than she is. Who said anything about being more virtuous? No me. I was in her same situation (with me being the one abused). My behavior was no different than hers. Granted, the genders are reversed, but I was where Divine is now. I write about these things because I have been there. We've all had experiences.. Opening our legs, living with someone IS NOT the reason for these experiences.. I'm sorry the back pedaling is so not working here... |
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[And what you're telling us when you say the way men may perceive her (or anyone else who has sex outside of marriage) is really the way you perceive her, right? Wrong. I do not perceive Divine that way. Far from it. |
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What is Divine to do to avoid being an easy target for another jerk? well, according to what you are saying.....join a convent 
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Hawt AG...
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Dodo, I don't think it's appropriate or fair to judge her standards b/c she lived with a guy.. Plenty of people don't get married and choose to live together.. That doesn't mean they have low moral standards, it simply means they don't have the same standards that you do.. I think the "opening the legs" remark went WAY beyond appropriate as well.. When did we become God-like and have the right to judge how people choose live with someone or be intimate with someone? You said it SO much nicer than I thought it... |
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Edited by
kc0003
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Wed 09/29/10 09:39 PM
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Who said anything about being more virtuous? No me. I was in her same situation (with me being the one abused). My behavior was no different than hers. Granted, the genders are reversed, but I was where Divine is now. I write about these things because I have been there. yes you did. your statement is filled with things that suggest it. your overall judgemental attitude exudes it. no matter how you try to change it now. i gather by saying "i do" she could have avoided this whole thing...yes? |
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Hawt AG...   My 'partially' silent protest  |
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Hawt AG... My 'partially' silent protest hey! none of teachers (nuns) ever looked like that... 
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Plenty of women have ended up in bad relationships because they didn't get to know men well enough before getting into bed with them.
As I said earlier, Divine's now-ex-boyfriend didn't suddenly change after the two of them started living together. He is the same way he was when Divine met him. Yet, Divine didn't see the way that he was until she was living with him. That is exactly what happened to me many years ago when I hooked up with a woman who turned out to be abusive. |
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Dodo, I don't think it's appropriate or fair to judge her standards b/c she lived with a guy.. Plenty of people don't get married and choose to live together.. That doesn't mean they have low moral standards, it simply means they don't have the same standards that you do.. I think the "opening the legs" remark went WAY beyond appropriate as well.. When did we become God-like and have the right to judge how people choose live with someone or be intimate with someone? You said it SO much nicer than I thought it... Well um I can be nice Cher..
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The issue here is not a lack of marriage.
The issue here is not looking before leaping. |
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The issue here is not a lack of marriage. The issue here is not looking before leaping. That could be a good point if you hadn't said all the other stuff you said.. What are YOU missing here? Did you re-read what you originally wrote? I know the majority of us DID NOT read it wrong... |
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Plenty of women have ended up in bad relationships because they didn't get to know men well enough before getting into bed with them. As I said earlier, Divine's now-ex-boyfriend didn't suddenly change after the two of them started living together. He is the same way he was when Divine met him. Yet, Divine didn't see the way that he was until she was living with him. That is exactly what happened to me many years ago when I hooked up with a woman who turned out to be abusive. nor did he change suddenly because they began to sleep together. the things you are saying are NOT gender exclusive just as they are NOT exclusively related having sex. just because you are f-d up about your past doesn't mean that everyone has to be. the words "I do" would not have changed this situation. and i have news for you...they would not have changed yours either. |
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The issue here is not a lack of marriage. The issue here is not looking before leaping. than don't use sleeping with someone before marriage as an example! over and over again!!!!!! |
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The issue here is not a lack of marriage. The issue here is not looking before leaping. That could be a good point if you hadn't said all the other stuff you said.. What are YOU missing here? Did you re-read what you originally wrote? I know the majority of us DID NOT read it wrong... IndnPrncs, I did have to go back and re-read what I said before. Yeah, I goofed. I had a point to make, but I sure did say it wrong. |
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The issue here is not a lack of marriage. The issue here is not looking before leaping. That could be a good point if you hadn't said all the other stuff you said.. What are YOU missing here? Did you re-read what you originally wrote? I know the majority of us DID NOT read it wrong... IndnPrncs, I did have to go back and re-read what I said before. Yeah, I goofed. I had a point to make, but I sure did say it wrong.  |
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