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Topic: Only 39 Percent Would Vote to Re-Elect Obama in 2012
Lpdon's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:26 PM

i do like the way you put your responce . i was never a fan of him i have coworkers that were and not now . he is a one termer for sure .were good .happy


Yea he is, he's another Jimmy Carter.

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Sat 10/02/10 06:27 PM
the electorial college is an antiquated system and if you are familer with history it has never benifited us outher than expediate the process of counting votes we have had presidents that were elected and never served due to this process . if the orignal process was adheared to on the inception of our goverment most of us would be represented at all times .

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:38 PM
its an interesting poll, with thirteen percent saying they will CONSIDER someone else


shouldnt everyone CONSIDER all candidates? at this point I would definitely vote for OBAma because I know no other candidate who is a better choice,,,,,but I would always CONSIDER another candidate who was,,,,

Lpdon's photo
Sat 10/02/10 06:44 PM

the electorial college is an antiquated system and if you are familer with history it has never benifited us outher than expediate the process of counting votes we have had presidents that were elected and never served due to this process . if the orignal process was adheared to on the inception of our goverment most of us would be represented at all times .


I did do something right, he kept that crook and sore loser Al Gore out of office. :banana:

Lpdon's photo
Sun 10/03/10 12:50 PM
Wow, I just looked an at this point in President Bush's Presidency he was at 91% approval rating and Obama's at 41%. laugh

KerryO's photo
Sun 10/03/10 05:36 PM

Wow, I just looked an at this point in President Bush's Presidency he was at 91% approval rating and Obama's at 41%. laugh


Hardly remarkable, considering that the 91% rating came right after the War in Iraq started. Anyone who dissented was branded as being a traitor.

What IS remarkable, though, is that that 91 % dropped to the low 20s when it became so apparent how badly Bush's cronies had sold the country out.

Without checking, I'd have to say that's the biggest 'fall' any president ever took during his term in office. Even Tricky Dick didn't fall this hard and he was just weeks from being impeached and removed from office. Hardly something to be bragging about or using as a measuring stick to compare others...

-Kerry O.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 10/03/10 07:09 PM


Wow, I just looked an at this point in President Bush's Presidency he was at 91% approval rating and Obama's at 41%. laugh


Hardly remarkable, considering that the 91% rating came right after the War in Iraq started. Anyone who dissented was branded as being a traitor.

What IS remarkable, though, is that that 91 % dropped to the low 20s when it became so apparent how badly Bush's cronies had sold the country out.

Without checking, I'd have to say that's the biggest 'fall' any president ever took during his term in office. Even Tricky Dick didn't fall this hard and he was just weeks from being impeached and removed from office. Hardly something to be bragging about or using as a measuring stick to compare others...

-Kerry O.


Actually the 91% was at the end of 2001 and in 2002.

KerryO's photo
Sun 10/03/10 11:41 PM



Wow, I just looked an at this point in President Bush's Presidency he was at 91% approval rating and Obama's at 41%. laugh


Hardly remarkable, considering that the 91% rating came right after the War in Iraq started. Anyone who dissented was branded as being a traitor.

What IS remarkable, though, is that that 91 % dropped to the low 20s when it became so apparent how badly Bush's cronies had sold the country out.

Without checking, I'd have to say that's the biggest 'fall' any president ever took during his term in office. Even Tricky Dick didn't fall this hard and he was just weeks from being impeached and removed from office. Hardly something to be bragging about or using as a measuring stick to compare others...

-Kerry O.


Actually the 91% was at the end of 2001 and in 2002.



And that falls afer which date? ::::cough 9/11 cough::::

Care to favor us with poll numbers on how many Americans in 2010 think the War in Iraq was worth the costs in lives and American treasure?

I think it was Robin Williams who said "Politicians are like diapers. They all need to be changed regularly for the same reason." And if that's the case with Obama, and he's a one-term president, so be it. History may show he was the right man at the right time, but couldn't CHANGE(tm) as quickly as needed.

That hardly means the Tea Party and Sarah Palin are his annointed replacement(s). Pumping the metaphorical Nitrous Oxide out of the political system but filling the resulting vacuum with cyanide does the vessel of the Republic little good.

-Kerry O.

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Mon 10/04/10 02:38 AM
one never knows, I dont think americans are too politicaly savvy because they are INUNDATED by the media with so much misinformation and sensationalism as opposed to useful facts and information....



I mean, forty one percent cant name the current vice president,,,

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/poll-41-of-americans-dont-know-who-joe-biden-is/

Rachel78745's photo
Mon 10/04/10 09:09 AM

From a POX news poll? So this thread fits because it's Politics, certainly not Current News. I see.

I agree his ratings are low but in an economy like the GOP gave us the president is a sitting duck for criticisms and poor ratings. I like this plans, I voted for him and will again...and it's a true bonus to have a president who's not an idiot, an imbecile and a moron...not a criminal either. Less we forget eh?

The Dippic scored an approval rating of 25%...3 times during his presidency.(GALLUP)






Yea if you

Rachel78745's photo
Mon 10/04/10 09:29 AM

From a POX news poll? So this thread fits because it's Politics, certainly not Current News. I see.

I agree his ratings are low but in an economy like the GOP gave us the president is a sitting duck for criticisms and poor ratings. I like this plans, I voted for him and will again...and it's a true bonus to have a president who's not an idiot, an imbecile and a moron...not a criminal either. Less we forget eh?

The Dippic scored an approval rating of 25%...3 times during his presidency.(GALLUP)






Hitler was also a well loved guy who was very intelligent and a great speaker. In fact one of the best in history aside from Obama. Obama is a criminal btw. He should be charged for hate crimes against Americans and for attempting to sabotage our great country by acting like American tax dollars are his own personal bank account, and for acting like he is the savior of all that don't have a willingness to get off they're lazy *** and get a job. He appeals to the weak and the young. Those without a realistic view of how to run a functional country and those who just want a hand out with as little work possible. Who wants to vote for someone who would rather give your boss a tax break instead of you? It's not like your boss gives you a paycheck or anything. Sure lets just tax the **** out of the rich business owners and give it to the people who don't want to work and then when the business owners cant afford to operate and have to FIRE people you can blame the business owner for the unemployment rates too! It's a lot easier to take control of a nation and destroy it if you make them think you are they're savior and friend. Fact is even his own party is deserting him. He is running a one man show and he is taking our country down the drain as he does it. Why is it that all of the obama supporters look at bush to justify how shitty obama is? If your child makes a D on a test you don't justify it by comparing your child to the child with an F. Personally I don't blame bush, in fact it's proven that the recession was a long time coming and it's not any one president that caused it.

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/04/10 10:00 AM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/04/10 10:01 AM


From a POX news poll? So this thread fits because it's Politics, certainly not Current News. I see.

I agree his ratings are low but in an economy like the GOP gave us the president is a sitting duck for criticisms and poor ratings. I like this plans, I voted for him and will again...and it's a true bonus to have a president who's not an idiot, an imbecile and a moron...not a criminal either. Less we forget eh?

The Dippic scored an approval rating of 25%...3 times during his presidency.(GALLUP)






Hitler was also a well loved guy who was very intelligent and a great speaker. In fact one of the best in history aside from Obama. Obama is a criminal btw. He should be charged for hate crimes against Americans and for attempting to sabotage our great country by acting like American tax dollars are his own personal bank account, and for acting like he is the savior of all that don't have a willingness to get off they're lazy *** and get a job. He appeals to the weak and the young. Those without a realistic view of how to run a functional country and those who just want a hand out with as little work possible. Who wants to vote for someone who would rather give your boss a tax break instead of you? It's not like your boss gives you a paycheck or anything. Sure lets just tax the **** out of the rich business owners and give it to the people who don't want to work and then when the business owners cant afford to operate and have to FIRE people you can blame the business owner for the unemployment rates too! It's a lot easier to take control of a nation and destroy it if you make them think you are they're savior and friend. Fact is even his own party is deserting him. He is running a one man show and he is taking our country down the drain as he does it. Why is it that all of the obama supporters look at bush to justify how shitty obama is? If your child makes a D on a test you don't justify it by comparing your child to the child with an F. Personally I don't blame bush, in fact it's proven that the recession was a long time coming and it's not any one president that caused it.




false analogy, a TEST is a much simpler and shorter event than an economical recession

a better comparison might be if you pick up a dog that had been BEATEN, and then get blamed for how jumpy your dog is because its your dog NOW,,,

OBama is no criminal by any statuatory or civil or criminal definition,,,btw

he is doing his job and he has not personally taxed anyone , taxes are approved of by a GOVERNMENT, not decided solely by a president and incidentally taxpayers pay less in taxes now than they have for a LONG time

Rachel78745's photo
Mon 10/04/10 12:02 PM
Edited by Rachel78745 on Mon 10/04/10 12:11 PM



From a POX news poll? So this thread fits because it's Politics, certainly not Current News. I see.

I agree his ratings are low but in an economy like the GOP gave us the president is a sitting duck for criticisms and poor ratings. I like this plans, I voted for him and will again...and it's a true bonus to have a president who's not an idiot, an imbecile and a moron...not a criminal either. Less we forget eh?

The Dippic scored an approval rating of 25%...3 times during his presidency.(GALLUP)






Hitler was also a well loved guy who was very intelligent and a great speaker. In fact one of the best in history aside from Obama. Obama is a criminal btw. He should be charged for hate crimes against Americans and for attempting to sabotage our great country by acting like American tax dollars are his own personal bank account, and for acting like he is the savior of all that don't have a willingness to get off they're lazy *** and get a job. He appeals to the weak and the young. Those without a realistic view of how to run a functional country and those who just want a hand out with as little work possible. Who wants to vote for someone who would rather give your boss a tax break instead of you? It's not like your boss gives you a paycheck or anything. Sure lets just tax the **** out of the rich business owners and give it to the people who don't want to work and then when the business owners cant afford to operate and have to FIRE people you can blame the business owner for the unemployment rates too! It's a lot easier to take control of a nation and destroy it if you make them think you are they're savior and friend. Fact is even his own party is deserting him. He is running a one man show and he is taking our country down the drain as he does it. Why is it that all of the obama supporters look at bush to justify how shitty obama is? If your child makes a D on a test you don't justify it by comparing your child to the child with an F. Personally I don't blame bush, in fact it's proven that the recession was a long time coming and it's not any one president that caused it.




false analogy, a TEST is a much simpler and shorter event than an economical recession

a better comparison might be if you pick up a dog that had been BEATEN, and then get blamed for how jumpy your dog is because its your dog NOW,,,

OBama is no criminal by any statuatory or civil or criminal definition,,,btw

he is doing his job and he has not personally taxed anyone , taxes are approved of by a GOVERNMENT, not decided solely by a president and incidentally taxpayers pay less in taxes now than they have for a LONG time


Yes he is most definitely a criminal,and your analogy is EXACTLY what happened to bush. Everyone blames bush for problems that were started before he got into office as well. He did what he could to protect our country and the companies running it.

Obama lowered taxes for the lower income bracket and RAISED taxes on the wealthy. he credits included:

* An increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit
* An expansion of the Child Tax Credit
* For those who work, the Making Work Pay tax credit offered $400 per individual and $800 per couple
* For those who lost their job, there was a 65 percent tax credit to help cover the cost of health care. The first $2,400 in unemployment benefits went tax-free
* Up to $2,500 under the American Opportunity Credit for students and parents paying for college tuition
* $8,000 for first-time home buyers
* A deduction of state and local taxes paid on a new car
* Up to $1,500 for home improvements to increase energy efficiency

Mr. Obama has proposed letting the Bush tax cuts expire for individuals making more than $200,000 a year or couples making more than $250,000. That means by the end of this year, Washington is likely to, among other things:

* Raise the top two income tax brackets from 33 percent to 36 percent, and from 35 percent 39.6 percent
* Raise the capital gains tax rate from 15 percent to 20 percent for married filers with incomes above $250,000
* Raise the tax on dividend income from 15 percent to 20 percent for married filers with incomes above $250,000


What people don't get is there are not evil rich people who lied to someone or stole to get where they are. Most of them are KEY CONTRIBUTORS to the ECONOMY!They are the people who HIRE and FIRE! When you raise taxes on them and make life harder for them which is EXACTLY what obama is doing you make the ENTIRE economy suffer!

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/04/10 12:05 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 10/04/10 12:12 PM




From a POX news poll? So this thread fits because it's Politics, certainly not Current News. I see.

I agree his ratings are low but in an economy like the GOP gave us the president is a sitting duck for criticisms and poor ratings. I like this plans, I voted for him and will again...and it's a true bonus to have a president who's not an idiot, an imbecile and a moron...not a criminal either. Less we forget eh?

The Dippic scored an approval rating of 25%...3 times during his presidency.(GALLUP)






Hitler was also a well loved guy who was very intelligent and a great speaker. In fact one of the best in history aside from Obama. Obama is a criminal btw. He should be charged for hate crimes against Americans and for attempting to sabotage our great country by acting like American tax dollars are his own personal bank account, and for acting like he is the savior of all that don't have a willingness to get off they're lazy *** and get a job. He appeals to the weak and the young. Those without a realistic view of how to run a functional country and those who just want a hand out with as little work possible. Who wants to vote for someone who would rather give your boss a tax break instead of you? It's not like your boss gives you a paycheck or anything. Sure lets just tax the **** out of the rich business owners and give it to the people who don't want to work and then when the business owners cant afford to operate and have to FIRE people you can blame the business owner for the unemployment rates too! It's a lot easier to take control of a nation and destroy it if you make them think you are they're savior and friend. Fact is even his own party is deserting him. He is running a one man show and he is taking our country down the drain as he does it. Why is it that all of the obama supporters look at bush to justify how shitty obama is? If your child makes a D on a test you don't justify it by comparing your child to the child with an F. Personally I don't blame bush, in fact it's proven that the recession was a long time coming and it's not any one president that caused it.




false analogy, a TEST is a much simpler and shorter event than an economical recession

a better comparison might be if you pick up a dog that had been BEATEN, and then get blamed for how jumpy your dog is because its your dog NOW,,,

OBama is no criminal by any statuatory or civil or criminal definition,,,btw

he is doing his job and he has not personally taxed anyone , taxes are approved of by a GOVERNMENT, not decided solely by a president and incidentally taxpayers pay less in taxes now than they have for a LONG time


Yes he is most definitely a criminal,and your analogy is EXACTLY what happened to bush. Everyone blames bush for problems that were started before he got into office as well. He did what he could to protect our country and the companies running it.



Im really not interested in Bush anymore except in the context of how his presidential decisions are relevant in a discussion about the current state of affairs,,

OBama owns it NOW, making him responsible(kind of like the CURRENT owner of a PREVIOUSLY abused dog), but he certainly hasnt CAUSED it,, making him not to BLAME

the responsibility goes back much further than the 21 months he has been in office

and where is the evidence(documents, facts, charges, indictments) of any CRIME he has committed?

anything that isnt in his presidential authority(done by presidents before him without consequence)?

Rachel78745's photo
Mon 10/04/10 12:16 PM
Well he was not born a US citizen so fraud would be the most obvious choice.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 10/04/10 01:47 PM

Well he was not born a US citizen so fraud would be the most obvious choice.


love

KerryO's photo
Mon 10/04/10 05:47 PM

Well he was not born a US citizen so fraud would be the most obvious choice.



And yet, the people who contend this have prevailed in exactly ZERO court cases. Bring your evidence, this is what the courts are for, but so far, you've all struck out BIG TIME. After a while it just becomes yesterday's news, which in printed form is suitable only for wrapping fish at the market.


-Kerry O.

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Mon 10/04/10 05:57 PM


Well he was not born a US citizen so fraud would be the most obvious choice.



And yet, the people who contend this have prevailed in exactly ZERO court cases. Bring your evidence, this is what the courts are for, but so far, you've all struck out BIG TIME. After a while it just becomes yesterday's news, which in printed form is suitable only for wrapping fish at the market.


-Kerry O.


Yea and OJ was really innocent.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 10/04/10 06:20 PM


Well he was not born a US citizen so fraud would be the most obvious choice.



And yet, the people who contend this have prevailed in exactly ZERO court cases. Bring your evidence, this is what the courts are for, but so far, you've all struck out BIG TIME. After a while it just becomes yesterday's news, which in printed form is suitable only for wrapping fish at the market.


-Kerry O.


All's he would have to do to shut everyone up is make public a BIRTH CERTIFICATE, not a CIRTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH.


Lpdon's photo
Mon 10/04/10 06:21 PM



Well he was not born a US citizen so fraud would be the most obvious choice.



And yet, the people who contend this have prevailed in exactly ZERO court cases. Bring your evidence, this is what the courts are for, but so far, you've all struck out BIG TIME. After a while it just becomes yesterday's news, which in printed form is suitable only for wrapping fish at the market.


-Kerry O.


Yea and OJ was really innocent.



Mark Furman really handed the defense their case. If it wern't for him OJ would have been found guilty and be on death row, where he deserves to be.

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