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Topic: Will The Rapture rid the Earth of Christianity
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Sun 10/17/10 12:27 PM

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).


22Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

23If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

24Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
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Someone was circumcising someone on the sabath. People seen it as work and judged it to be sinful. So we were told to not judge according to appearance, not to say they are doing wrong without knowing all of what is going on. And is why we're not to judge, for we do not know the reason this person is doing what he/she is doing, we do not know their hearts. We just aren't to "labor" on the sabath. Work for money on the sabath. But work for the lord is not for money and not for oneself, it is for someone else. We call that charity these days.

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Sun 10/17/10 12:32 PM

"Them that sin4 rebuke before all, that others also may fear" (I Tim. 5:20).

how can somebody be "rebuked for sin", without judging them?

and what was sin?

HARMING WITH INTENT ANOTHER ****ING HUMAN BEING.


Gotta keep the other verses around it to understand this verse.

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1Timothy 5:21-24
20Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

21I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

22Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

23Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

24Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

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Sun 10/17/10 12:46 PM



Ab says:

I don't believe in a mean nasty God who solves all his problems with violence and who would condemn people for simply not believing in unsubstantiated and clearly outrageous rumors.




CR says:

Neither do I.

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Sun 10/17/10 12:59 PM





Nothing has changed in anything. Jesus taught us not to judge, and if we do judge we then are judged the same. It's a punishment for judging others. As in i see you don't believe in the bible, if i bluntly just come out and say you're going to burn in the lake of fire for this. I have then judged you and will be judged with the same measure of judgement in punishment and or consequence for doing as such.


Cowboy .....now that you have committed yourself to the notion that Jesus taught that it's a sin to judge others ....now all you have to do is present a passage from the bible where Jesus states that his believers should never judge others "ever" no matter what ...or perhaps something close to that......

of course if you can not find such a passage in the bible then will you admit that it's another example of you once again giving false testimony


James 4:12

12There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
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Matthew 7:2

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again
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Luke 6:37

37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
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Look especially at Luke 6:37. "Judge NOT and ye shall not be judged: condemn NOT and ye shall not be condemned"

Looks pretty clear we are told not to judge if you ask me.


cool....now give some passages where Jesus say that one can judge ...you claim you are here to spread the word...so if I ask you for some bible passages from the teachings of Jesus so that I may learn his word you are required to give them ...Jesus would also want you to do so ....let's see if you read the bible and know where they are


John 5:30
30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
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So with the combination of the previously mentioned verses you can see we are not to judge, but Jesus is the judge of us all who will judge with a righteous heart.


posted by "davidben"
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).


see Cowboy there are passages from the bible that Jesus reveal how one should judge and that judging is not a sin ..which means that you were giving false testimony ...see this is what I mean about why The Rapture will happen to get rid of those Christians that knowingly preach false gospel and try to deceive others about what's in the bible

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Sun 10/17/10 01:12 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 10/17/10 01:13 PM






Nothing has changed in anything. Jesus taught us not to judge, and if we do judge we then are judged the same. It's a punishment for judging others. As in i see you don't believe in the bible, if i bluntly just come out and say you're going to burn in the lake of fire for this. I have then judged you and will be judged with the same measure of judgement in punishment and or consequence for doing as such.


Cowboy .....now that you have committed yourself to the notion that Jesus taught that it's a sin to judge others ....now all you have to do is present a passage from the bible where Jesus states that his believers should never judge others "ever" no matter what ...or perhaps something close to that......

of course if you can not find such a passage in the bible then will you admit that it's another example of you once again giving false testimony


James 4:12

12There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
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Matthew 7:2

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again
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Luke 6:37

37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
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Look especially at Luke 6:37. "Judge NOT and ye shall not be judged: condemn NOT and ye shall not be condemned"

Looks pretty clear we are told not to judge if you ask me.


cool....now give some passages where Jesus say that one can judge ...you claim you are here to spread the word...so if I ask you for some bible passages from the teachings of Jesus so that I may learn his word you are required to give them ...Jesus would also want you to do so ....let's see if you read the bible and know where they are


John 5:30
30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
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So with the combination of the previously mentioned verses you can see we are not to judge, but Jesus is the judge of us all who will judge with a righteous heart.


posted by "davidben"
"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).


see Cowboy there are passages from the bible that Jesus reveal how one should judge and that judging is not a sin ..which means that you were giving false testimony ...see this is what I mean about why The Rapture will happen to get rid of those Christians that knowingly preach false gospel and try to deceive others about what's in the bible

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Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye
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If you are perfect without blemish and do not sin what so ever, then yes you have all the right to judge. So if you feel this applies to you and you are without blemish then go for it funches. But keep in mind

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Matthew 7:2-3
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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Sun 10/17/10 01:19 PM

Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye
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If you are perfect without blemish and do not sin what so ever, then yes you have all the right to judge. So if you feel this applies to you and you are without blemish then go for it funches. But keep in mind

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Matthew 7:2-3
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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Cowboy ...those passage do not claim that it's a sin to judge or Jesus teaching to never Judge ......as I said you will not find such a passage in the bible where Jesus states to never judge ever....which means you are preaching false testimony .....

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Sun 10/17/10 01:32 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 10/17/10 01:35 PM


Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye
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If you are perfect without blemish and do not sin what so ever, then yes you have all the right to judge. So if you feel this applies to you and you are without blemish then go for it funches. But keep in mind

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Matthew 7:2-3
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
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Cowboy ...those passage do not claim that it's a sin to judge or Jesus teaching to never Judge ......as I said you will not find such a passage in the bible where Jesus states to never judge ever....which means you are preaching false testimony .....


No you're just refusing to see what you ask for.

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You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye
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Jesus right there is saying you hypocrite, how can you go around judging people when you yourself is sinning as well.

Would also like to add

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Romans 3:23
23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
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Sun 10/17/10 01:53 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 10/17/10 01:53 PM

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Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye
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If you are perfect without blemish and do not sin what so ever, then yes you have all the right to judge. So if you feel this applies to you and you are without blemish then go for it funches. But keep in mind

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Matthew 7:2-3
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? ===============================


Cowboy...it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used ...it does not speak of anything about that judging is a sin...

so are you going to place up any passages in which Jesus speaks of how and why people should Judge...or are you going to allow the non-believers to post them and teach you that part of Jesus

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Sun 10/17/10 01:56 PM


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Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye
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If you are perfect without blemish and do not sin what so ever, then yes you have all the right to judge. So if you feel this applies to you and you are without blemish then go for it funches. But keep in mind

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Matthew 7:2-3
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? ===============================


Cowboy...it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used ...it does not speak of anything about that judging is a sin...

so are you going to place up any passages in which Jesus speaks of how and why people should Judge...or are you going to allow the non-believers to post them and teach you that part of Jesus


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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:06 PM

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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?

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Sun 10/17/10 02:12 PM


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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:23 PM



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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.


Cowboy...righteous judgement in those biblical days would refer to making a fair or just judgement ...

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Sun 10/17/10 02:33 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 10/17/10 02:34 PM




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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.


Cowboy...righteous judgement in those biblical days would refer to making a fair or just judgement ...


Yes, very true. But how could it be fair or righteous if you judge this person to be a heathen for stealing an apple when you just got done stealing an orange?

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Sun 10/17/10 02:52 PM
it seems to solve or define any such matter, one would have to clearly define "sin", but if and how can this be possible, for it was so VERY CLEARLY written, "what be sin for ONE, be not sin for another"?

for it as well state, "let him without sin cast the FIRST STONE".

did not SAY TO NOT CAST A STONE?

so, they "feared jesus", since they thought he was "god", and so "their own guilt", or fear of their own "lacking" being exposed, MADE THEM NOT JUDGE THE PROSTITUTE?

and walk away?

so, THAT WHICH HATH GUILT, BE AFRAID OF "GOD", OR WHAT REPRESENT "AUTHORITY", SO BE AFRAID TO JUDGE WHAT BE HARMFUL BEHAVIOUR TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING?

awh, but the very belief's have come to have having to do with what be actual "caring" about human's or humankind.

such has always been the case since the inception of human existence, and why the strong delusion that "to judge" be a "sin", when any free place, or happy place, or place without chaos, could not exist without exercising GOOD JUDGEMENT...

even when "jesus" defended a prostitute, a "****ING SINNER", all pun inteded, he made sure not to tell anyone NOT TO JUDGE, but himself DID NOT JUDGE HER, for WHAT BODILY HARM HAD SHE INFLICTED UPON ANOTHER HUMAN, as she was but a believer in MUTUAL CONSENT OF CONSENTING ADULTS, and thus why "jesus" did not condem her...

he knew the TRUE VIPER'S, the HATER'S, were the GUILTY, for why was she "guilty", for NOT BEING SATISFIED WITH HER HUSBAND, for who look for anonther, THAT BE GIVEN ALL IT NEED, OR WANT?

hum...




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Sun 10/17/10 02:54 PM





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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.


Cowboy...righteous judgement in those biblical days would refer to making a fair or just judgement ...


Yes, very true. But how could it be fair or righteous if you judge this person to be a heathen for stealing an apple when you just got done stealing an orange?


oh that's easy to explain...you simple do not judge that apple stealing person as if they has stole two apples ...you judge that person fairly for the crime that they committed which was the theft of one apple

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Sun 10/17/10 02:57 PM

it seems to solve or define any such matter, one would have to clearly define "sin", but if and how can this be possible, for it was so VERY CLEARLY written, "what be sin for ONE, be not sin for another"?

for it as well state, "let him without sin cast the FIRST STONE".

did not SAY TO NOT CAST A STONE?

so, they "feared jesus", since they thought he was "god", and so "their own guilt", or fear of their own "lacking" being exposed, MADE THEM NOT JUDGE THE PROSTITUTE?

and walk away?

so, THAT WHICH HATH GUILT, BE AFRAID OF "GOD", OR WHAT REPRESENT "AUTHORITY", SO BE AFRAID TO JUDGE WHAT BE HARMFUL BEHAVIOUR TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING?

awh, but the very belief's have come to have having to do with what be actual "caring" about human's or humankind.

such has always been the case since the inception of human existence, and why the strong delusion that "to judge" be a "sin", when any free place, or happy place, or place without chaos, could not exist without exercising GOOD JUDGEMENT...

even when "jesus" defended a prostitute, a "****ING SINNER", all pun inteded, he made sure not to tell anyone NOT TO JUDGE, but himself DID NOT JUDGE HER, for WHAT BODILY HARM HAD SHE INFLICTED UPON ANOTHER HUMAN, as she was but a believer in MUTUAL CONSENT OF CONSENTING ADULTS, and thus why "jesus" did not condem her...

he knew the TRUE VIPER'S, the HATER'S, were the GUILTY, for why was she "guilty", for NOT BEING SATISFIED WITH HER HUSBAND, for who look for anonther, THAT BE GIVEN ALL IT NEED, OR WANT?

hum...





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it seems to solve or define any such matter, one would have to clearly define "sin", but if and how can this be possible, for it was so VERY CLEARLY written, "what be sin for ONE, be not sin for another"?
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Sin is disobedience to our father. Our father has told us NOT to steal. Therefore if you steal something that would be a sin for it is being disobedient. And where is it written "what be sin for ONE, be not sin for another"?

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Sun 10/17/10 02:59 PM






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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.


Cowboy...righteous judgement in those biblical days would refer to making a fair or just judgement ...


Yes, very true. But how could it be fair or righteous if you judge this person to be a heathen for stealing an apple when you just got done stealing an orange?


oh that's easy to explain...you simple do not judge that apple stealing person as if they has stole two apples ...you judge that person fairly for the crime that they committed which was the theft of one apple


Still wouldn't be fair, for you would be judging this person and condemning them for stealing the apple, but yet nothing happened to you for stealing the orange. That is why we aren't to judge others, for we ALL sin and fall short in the glory of God.

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Sun 10/17/10 04:25 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 10/17/10 04:26 PM







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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.


Cowboy...righteous judgement in those biblical days would refer to making a fair or just judgement ...


Yes, very true. But how could it be fair or righteous if you judge this person to be a heathen for stealing an apple when you just got done stealing an orange?


oh that's easy to explain...you simple do not judge that apple stealing person as if they has stole two apples ...you judge that person fairly for the crime that they committed which was the theft of one apple


Still wouldn't be fair, for you would be judging this person and condemning them for stealing the apple, but yet nothing happened to you for stealing the orange. That is why we aren't to judge others, for we ALL sin and fall short in the glory of God.


it is fair...the person was treated in accordance with the crime they committed ...this is what is meant by righteous judgement ......and this is why if you go around preaching that Jesus said that it's a sin to judge...you are not being a righteous person ...because Jesus claim no such thing

so Cowboy....become righteous and just admit that you were wrong....repent christian heathen....look all I'm trying to do is keep you out of the lake of fire because so far you are on the yahweh to hell

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Sun 10/17/10 04:42 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 10/17/10 04:49 PM
go look it up cowboy...

the burden of proof is not on me, for i do not doubt the words you quote from text, but rather your interpretation of them.

but yea, ye doubt me, so the burden of proof lie upon your shoulders son.

for do you not claim yourself the expert perception in such matter's?

for indeed, you deem your words BACKED BY THE "GOD OF THE COSMOS"?

IF YOU WERE THE EXPERT, having just and wise insight, for being given by no merit of your own greater knowing, then you would KNOW WHERE IT WAS WRITTEN YOURSELF.

and indeed, if it were not written, THEN THIS YOU WOULD KNOW AS WELL.

since you know neither, you show true lacking and insight to be fit to "judge" any other mortal action, AND AS SUCH, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ENTIRELY THAT SUCH BE WISE BELIEF AND COUNSEL FOR YOURSELF.

but not for the rest of the "righteous judges", which would be those that seek the solution and creation of common good for ALL AS ONE.

for indeed, shall you "judge" all other's action's based merely UPON WHAT YOU "WANT" FOR COWBOY, basing the ENTIRE COURSE OF HUMANITY, upon this?

but then, do you post for these reason's?

what be your motive in your claims to be the divine interpretor of god?

why and how shall you create common good for mankind?

what is common good for mankind?

for if you cared about the path of the human species, for the good of all, you would stop using "cowboy perception" with the assumption that whomever doth not embrace, agree, endorse, or validate, or show any other point of view, is somehow of lessor intelligence, and has no idea of what they be talking about.

your very logic is but to disprove how "all things" cannot be true except for what MATCHES YOUR OWN BELIEF.

that is nothing more than playing a blue's clue game, having nothing to do with "learning anything", nor adding ANYTHING more to what self already knows.

but indeed, perhaps i should not assume that you come here to learn anything, for the sake of wanting and longing to create solution for where hate now reside.

if the cowboy perception were allowed and followed as the course of humanity, all would be living in sheer chaos and misery for the sake of the chaos, but you have not even begun to inspect for this within yourself, but, all the while, claiming to be a judge of "gods word", and a DULY AUTHORIZED SPEAKER OF GOD?

how does one believe words are of "god", AND SO DIVINE, THEN CLAIM ITSELF IS NOT TO JUDGE WHAT BE OF THE MAXIMUM GOOD FOR HUMANITY, and then not deem even this THE MOST GOOD, LEST ALL PARTIES DID AGREE?

have ye not claimed yourself ONE WITH THE FATHER?

if you are one with the father, THAN YOUR WORDS HATH THE SAME DIVINE INSIGHT AND ETERNAL WISDOM AND POWER AS HIS?

do you REALLY wish to be accountible for each mortal human life, that you effect with your words, unto a more positive or negative "state of being"?

as a "self professed divine interpretor", of the divine meaning of divine words, then each mortal that hear your words, and base ONE IOTA OR THING UPON THEM, you have become accountible for them, and their words and action's you shall be judged for, as per your own divine book, and the divine realm.

but, then you would say no such thing be, as mortals do not believe as such, but then you would show you do not know the divine laws of self effect at all, nor live by them, as all in the divine realm hath fully accounted unto themself the total accountability of ALL THAT THEIR OWN WORDS DOTH CREATE AS FOR SELF AND FOR ALL, KNOWING THE PENALTY OF FALSE WITNESS BE DEATH, AS PER YOUR OWN TEXT.

ramblin man





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Sun 10/17/10 05:35 PM








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it only tells how someone that is sinning shouldn't be judging others that sin which is why the term "hypocrite" was used
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Yes it says people that sin should not judge others. But it also says we ALL have sinned and fall short in the glory of God.


John 7:24 ...Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

here's a passage where Jesus gives advice about how to judge ...so are you sure Jesus said that it's a sin to judge?


Judge with a RIGHTEOUS judgement. To make a righteous judgement would only come from someone that is pure and doesn't sin. For if you judged someone while you're sinning yourself, you would be a hypocrite as Jesus pointed out.


Cowboy...righteous judgement in those biblical days would refer to making a fair or just judgement ...


Yes, very true. But how could it be fair or righteous if you judge this person to be a heathen for stealing an apple when you just got done stealing an orange?


oh that's easy to explain...you simple do not judge that apple stealing person as if they has stole two apples ...you judge that person fairly for the crime that they committed which was the theft of one apple


Still wouldn't be fair, for you would be judging this person and condemning them for stealing the apple, but yet nothing happened to you for stealing the orange. That is why we aren't to judge others, for we ALL sin and fall short in the glory of God.


it is fair...the person was treated in accordance with the crime they committed ...this is what is meant by righteous judgement ......and this is why if you go around preaching that Jesus said that it's a sin to judge...you are not being a righteous person ...because Jesus claim no such thing

so Cowboy....become righteous and just admit that you were wrong....repent christian heathen....look all I'm trying to do is keep you out of the lake of fire because so far you are on the yahweh to hell


You didn't listen to what was said in the example. It wouldn't be a fair judgement because i was judging someone for stealing the apple saying it was wrong, but yet i was stealing the orange. How can i say stealing is wrong while i'm doing it myself? How is that righteous?

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