Topic: The Bible ... fables, fact, fantasy or fakery?
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Sun 10/17/10 02:38 PM





Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me


No judgement. I did not say you were a heathen gonna burn in hell. Nor did i say you were an angelic man who has got to have a seat in heaven. All i did was clearly state my "opinion" on you and what i see. Judgements are conceived with evidence and factual objects. All i was stating is an opinion, which is derived from how something perceives something in their eyes.


Cowboy an opinion is a judgement ....go ahead look it up ....also you claim that I was making a joke about the word of God and isn't that considered to be a sin?...you have therefore condemn me to burn in Hell

wow I can't believe you said burn in Hell...don't you mean the Lake of fire?

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Sun 10/17/10 02:40 PM






Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me


No judgement. I did not say you were a heathen gonna burn in hell. Nor did i say you were an angelic man who has got to have a seat in heaven. All i did was clearly state my "opinion" on you and what i see. Judgements are conceived with evidence and factual objects. All i was stating is an opinion, which is derived from how something perceives something in their eyes.


Cowboy an opinion is a judgement ....go ahead look it up ....also you claim that I was making a joke about the word of God and isn't that considered to be a sin?...you have therefore condemn me to burn in Hell

wow I can't believe you said burn in Hell...don't you mean the Lake of fire?


I said no such thing. Jesus offers forgiveness and is why it is not my place nor did i say you were going to burn in the lake of fire or anything along those lines.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:41 PM

but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses



Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.



if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...

funches this is the greatest statement ever and i agree,old testament mentions the word which equals jesus but yet the god almighty who is the only one with divinity can't even just flat out say 'jesus"

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Sun 10/17/10 02:42 PM
Edited by funches on Sun 10/17/10 02:42 PM




but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...


The word Genesis means "a coming into being". And the word was always with our father and our father is the beginning and the end. So therefore the word was in the beginning.


sorry Cowboy,,,the original post of this thread asks for proof when something is claimed to be fact..which means you have to show proof that "the Word" was mention in Genesis

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Sun 10/17/10 02:44 PM





but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...


The word Genesis means "a coming into being". And the word was always with our father and our father is the beginning and the end. So therefore the word was in the beginning.


sorry Cowboy,,,the original post of this thread asks for proof when something is claimed to be fact..which means you have to show proof that "the Word" was mention in Genesis


Genesis is the coming into being of the earth. Not the coming into being of everything.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:46 PM







Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me


No judgement. I did not say you were a heathen gonna burn in hell. Nor did i say you were an angelic man who has got to have a seat in heaven. All i did was clearly state my "opinion" on you and what i see. Judgements are conceived with evidence and factual objects. All i was stating is an opinion, which is derived from how something perceives something in their eyes.


Cowboy an opinion is a judgement ....go ahead look it up ....also you claim that I was making a joke about the word of God and isn't that considered to be a sin?...you have therefore condemn me to burn in Hell

wow I can't believe you said burn in Hell...don't you mean the Lake of fire?


I said no such thing. Jesus offers forgiveness and is why it is not my place nor did i say you were going to burn in the lake of fire or anything along those lines.


Cowboy...you said that I was blapheming God and that's a sin and that mean that you judged me and that's a sin...now both of us will be dragged to Hell...oops I meant the lake of fire....er...well at least we won't have to worry about getting a hot meal

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Sun 10/17/10 02:49 PM






but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...


The word Genesis means "a coming into being". And the word was always with our father and our father is the beginning and the end. So therefore the word was in the beginning.


sorry Cowboy,,,the original post of this thread asks for proof when something is claimed to be fact..which means you have to show proof that "the Word" was mention in Genesis


Genesis is the coming into being of the earth. Not the coming into being of everything.


doesn't matter...you have to show when in Genesis it mention in the beginning there was the word ...if you can't then that makes that part of The New Testament fakery

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Sun 10/17/10 02:51 PM








Pull one piece of hair out of your head. This piece of hair and you are two different beings but yet you and that hair is one.


I just did...but amazingly my hair did not call out ..My Funches, My Funches,..why hath thou pull me out...I even placed an ultra sound sensitive microphone to that piece of hair and still didnt hear anything

perhaps hair weave does that .....unbeweavable


Lol, that's pretty good funches. You are a very witty man with a sort of dry sense of humour. Just wish you used your powers for more productive things rather then trying to make a joke of the word of God.


wow...Cowboy just judged me


No judgement. I did not say you were a heathen gonna burn in hell. Nor did i say you were an angelic man who has got to have a seat in heaven. All i did was clearly state my "opinion" on you and what i see. Judgements are conceived with evidence and factual objects. All i was stating is an opinion, which is derived from how something perceives something in their eyes.


Cowboy an opinion is a judgement ....go ahead look it up ....also you claim that I was making a joke about the word of God and isn't that considered to be a sin?...you have therefore condemn me to burn in Hell

wow I can't believe you said burn in Hell...don't you mean the Lake of fire?


I said no such thing. Jesus offers forgiveness and is why it is not my place nor did i say you were going to burn in the lake of fire or anything along those lines.


Cowboy...you said that I was blapheming God and that's a sin and that mean that you judged me and that's a sin...now both of us will be dragged to Hell...oops I meant the lake of fire....er...well at least we won't have to worry about getting a hot meal


I may have said that, but that has nothing to do with making a judgement. I may see someone stealing something and told people they stole something. I am merely stating an obvious fact. I am not condemning this person, not saying he won't receive the gift of heaven. Not even saying he'll go to prison for his action. Am merely stating the fact of his actions which was stealing the object.

As my example points out i was merely stating the actions you were taking. I did not say you were going to burn for it. I said nothing along those lines. So therefore no judgement was made, again just merely stating the fact of your actions.

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Sun 10/17/10 02:53 PM







but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...


The word Genesis means "a coming into being". And the word was always with our father and our father is the beginning and the end. So therefore the word was in the beginning.


sorry Cowboy,,,the original post of this thread asks for proof when something is claimed to be fact..which means you have to show proof that "the Word" was mention in Genesis


Genesis is the coming into being of the earth. Not the coming into being of everything.


doesn't matter...you have to show when in Genesis it mention in the beginning there was the word ...if you can't then that makes that part of The New Testament fakery


No, cause again genesis is the beginning of the EARTH. Not the beginning of the heavens and everything that ever has or will exist. Just purely the coming into existence of the world.

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Sun 10/17/10 04:09 PM




but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...
rofl rofl funches this is the greatest statement ever and i agree,old testament mentions the word which equals jesusrofl rofl but yet the god almighty who is the only one with divinity can't even just flat out say 'jesus"


John 1.1..In the beginning there were the word ...is the most Brazen piece of plagiarism in the history of the world .....that one line stole the jewish religion and tried to steal the God...only three lines in the New Testament kept Yahweh from being kidnapped

My God My God why hath thou forsaken me
Father forgive them for they know not what they do
and
Jesus is the son

unfortunely with the latter one God now has to take a DNA to prove paterinity ...it would be cool if he could go on the muary polvich show to do the test...if the test proves negative that God is the father but prove positive that Joseph is the father then the Virgin Mary would run off the stage crying and fall on the back stage floor where there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth


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Sun 10/17/10 04:14 PM

No, cause again genesis is the beginning of the EARTH. Not the beginning of the heavens and everything that ever has or will exist. Just purely the coming into existence of the world.


Cowboy...the thread ask for proof not your fantasy synopsis...so go to Genesis "In The Beginning" and see if you can find anything about the word...if not..then The Word is not "always was"

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Sun 10/17/10 04:38 PM





but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses


Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.


if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...
rofl rofl funches this is the greatest statement ever and i agree,old testament mentions the word which equals jesusrofl rofl but yet the god almighty who is the only one with divinity can't even just flat out say 'jesus"


John 1.1..In the beginning there were the word ...is the most Brazen piece of plagiarism in the history of the world .....that one line stole the jewish religion and tried to steal the God...only three lines in the New Testament kept Yahweh from being kidnapped

My God My God why hath thou forsaken me
Father forgive them for they know not what they do
and
Jesus is the son

unfortunely with the latter one God now has to take a DNA to prove paterinity ...it would be cool if he could go on the muary polvich show to do the test...if the test proves negative that God is the father but prove positive that Joseph is the father then the Virgin Mary would run off the stage crying and fall on the back stage floor where there would be wailing and gnashing of teeth


drinker

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Sun 10/17/10 05:45 PM


but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses



Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.



if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...

funches this is the greatest statement ever and i agree,old testament mentions the word which equals jesus but yet the god almighty who is the only one with divinity can't even just flat out say 'jesus"



Because the "word" didn't have a name. Only when the word became flesh it was given a name.

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Sun 10/17/10 05:49 PM


No, cause again genesis is the beginning of the EARTH. Not the beginning of the heavens and everything that ever has or will exist. Just purely the coming into existence of the world.


Cowboy...the thread ask for proof not your fantasy synopsis...so go to Genesis "In The Beginning" and see if you can find anything about the word...if not..then The Word is not "always was"


Again, Genesis is the beginning of the EARTH and all that lives on it. Genesis isn't the beginning of existence. In the beginning the word was with God. The bible does NOT go back far enough to the beginning of time and God. Only the beginning of the earth. So with that, there was no need to mention the word in genesis.

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Sun 10/17/10 08:08 PM


No, cause again genesis is the beginning of the EARTH. Not the beginning of the heavens and everything that ever has or will exist. Just purely the coming into existence of the world.


Cowboy...the thread ask for proof not your fantasy synopsis...so go to Genesis "In The Beginning" and see if you can find anything about the word...if not..then The Word is not "always was"





"Mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing."

Albert Einstein




E=mc²: Einstein explains his famous formula

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC7Sg41Bp-U




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Mon 10/18/10 05:29 AM



but didn't god "create jesus" cause if you didn't believe jesus was your savior that you can't enter the kingdom of god? also through jesus he if you disobey god you can't enter the kingdom of god?jesus wasn't god? but wasn't he a aberration,spirit of god spiritually and through his preachings...seriously jesus was a manifestation or a set up by god...remember "follow me for i am the way"?god put jesus here...nevermind i guess i might have to whipout somemore verses



Jesus is the word of God in the flesh. The word always was and always is. The word has always been with God from the beginning. God is the alpha and omega, the beginning and the end.



if "The Word" always was...it would be mention in Genesis...

funches this is the greatest statement ever and i agree,old testament mentions the word which equals jesus but yet the god almighty who is the only one with divinity can't even just flat out say 'jesus"



Because the "word" didn't have a name. Only when the word became flesh it was given a name.


nothing before creation had a name ....The Word could easily mean The Word that God spoke that induced creation

The Word induced 4 types of creations to occur ..animal, vegetable, mineral and other ........animal describes when The Word became flesh

see how I can make up stuff too ...which is why you need proof of what you claim ...that is why if The Word is not mention "In The Beginning" of Genesis ...it simply did not exist at that point in time

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Mon 10/18/10 05:34 AM



No, cause again genesis is the beginning of the EARTH. Not the beginning of the heavens and everything that ever has or will exist. Just purely the coming into existence of the world.


Cowboy...the thread ask for proof not your fantasy synopsis...so go to Genesis "In The Beginning" and see if you can find anything about the word...if not..then The Word is not "always was"





"Mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing."

Albert Einstein




E=mc²: Einstein explains his famous formula

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC7Sg41Bp-U






which is why when The Word turn to flesh..it is describing the human race

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Mon 10/18/10 06:10 AM




No, cause again genesis is the beginning of the EARTH. Not the beginning of the heavens and everything that ever has or will exist. Just purely the coming into existence of the world.


Cowboy...the thread ask for proof not your fantasy synopsis...so go to Genesis "In The Beginning" and see if you can find anything about the word...if not..then The Word is not "always was"





"Mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing."

Albert Einstein




E=mc²: Einstein explains his famous formula

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC7Sg41Bp-U






which is why when The Word turn to flesh..it is describing the human race


No when it is said God made the word flesh it is not refering to us. And let me show you why

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John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
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Notice dwelt among US. That would show that the word isn't us, but it dwelt among us. Jesus is the word of God made flesh and he dwelt with us for a time being until the crucifixion.

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Mon 10/18/10 06:35 AM
Edited by funches on Mon 10/18/10 06:41 AM

No when it is said God made the word flesh it is not refering to us. And let me show you why

==================================
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
===================================

Notice dwelt among US. That would show that the word isn't us, but it dwelt among us. Jesus is the word of God made flesh and he dwelt with us for a time being until the crucifixion.


your own words says it all...The Word was "made" flesh ...this point to The Word as being a creation

for God can not be "made" into something and still be God ...funches 3:16

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Mon 10/18/10 06:39 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Mon 10/18/10 06:41 AM


No when it is said God made the word flesh it is not refering to us. And let me show you why

==================================
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth
===================================

Notice dwelt among US. That would show that the word isn't us, but it dwelt among us. Jesus is the word of God made flesh and he dwelt with us for a time being until the crucifixion.


your own words says it all...The Word was "made" flesh ...this point to The Word as being a creation

for God can not be "made" into something and still be God ...funches 3:16


Again with what we were talking about yesterday. Jesus is not the father in exacts. Again, take a piece of hair off your head. This would be "the word" give it a name "made it flesh". You have now simulated what our father did with Jesus. Jesus is the word of God. He is not our father in exacts, but still is one with the father.