You live in your world and I will live in mine

The Iran–Contra affair[1] (Persian: ماجرای مک‌فارلین, Spanish: caso Irán-contras) was a political scandal in the United States that came to light in November 1986. During the Reagan administration, President Ronald Reagan and other senior U.S. officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, the subject of an arms embargo.[2] At least some U.S. officials also hoped that the arms sales would secure the release of hostages and allow U.S. intelligence agencies to fund the Nicaraguan contras.

The affair began as an operation to improve U.S.-Iranian relations. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to a relatively moderate, politically influential group of Iranians, and then the U.S. would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment. The Iranian recipients promised to do everything in their power to achieve the release of six U.S. hostages, who were being held by the Lebanese Shia Islamist group Hezbollah, who in turn were unknowingly connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. The plan deteriorated into an arms-for-hostages scheme, in which members of the executive branch sold weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the American hostages.[3][4] Large modifications to the plan were devised by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North of the National Security Council in late 1985, in which a portion of the proceeds from the weapon sales was diverted to fund anti-Sandinista and anti-communist rebels, or Contras, in Nicaragua.[5][6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms-for-hostages

I think if Iran gets the bomb it will be one less war we have to send our kids to fight. It seems we will only attack countries who cannot defend themselves and if I was president of Iran I would know the only thing I could do to save my people from the destruction Iraq has endured would be to defend the country. It would probably be in our own best interests if he should develope one anyhow, realy can we afford another war? would world opinion even let us contrive yet another reasone to attack another country? Lets stop pretending we have any legitimate right to even suggest it. By the terms of the nuclear non proliferation treaty the nuclear powers are required to eliminate their weapons in exchange for other countries not to develope them.

Spot on.

Seriously? You buy that babble? If Iran get's the bomb all hell will break loose. They are already forming an Axis with Syria and other countries that hate the Allied Nations.

There is actually a pretty good chance that they already have at least one bomb. They got the bomb building tech from Pakistan so all that remains is the time to turn enough yellow cake into weapons grade uranium. They would not announce that they had made "one". They would continue to drag out the discussion til they had several. We do not have exact knowledge of their enrichment process ... or the exact size of it. This is what the inspections are all about and why they don't want them to happen.

If you look at the time line, there has been plenty of time to make at least one bomb. Bombs can be made in any size.

I'm sure N. Korea has been helping them to since there have been massive weapons shipments intercepted from N. Korea on the way to Iran.

I guarantee once it is found they do have a bomb we can start the clock on how long it will be before Israel launches a Nuclear strike.

That is probably the main reason Iran is still claiming that they do not have it yet and are not making one even though we know the enrichment process they are using is pretty much designed for bomb making.

I they make several, and spread them around the country on demonstrated midrange rocket warheads, it would make an attacker think twice if they were within range, like Israel.

Israel knows perfectly well how to make bombs in secret and how long it takes. I think they may reach a moment where they decide "enough is enough" and BOOOM!

They were at that point right before the Nuclear Plant went live recently until our Coward in Chief pressured them not to do squat.

I suspect the Israelis agreed to delay action but left it with a "either you do something to stop it or we will".

Its in humanity's hearts to kill each other. I would cheer on when the Muslims are getting wiped out.

Wow

Muslims are people that follow a different way of life.

But bottom line...

Humans.

With wives (and husbands) and children.
With hopes and dreams like you and me.

Also with people that have extreme views... Just like here.

To wipe out a seqment of humanity because of a few extremes is a bit extreme in itself.

Would you destroy humanity because cain slew able?

WORLD WANNABEE DICTATOR'S, can never create peace or no war for all, for their very motive is tainted with the delusion itself be superior, with such not having to be proven by other's, but only to itself.

the narcissistic mentality that create's dictator's out of all, coming to mesmorize the collective brains of the world.

if iran wants nuclear potential, than why are we so afraid, for they are but human as ourself, and we as AMERICA have them?

how can one man tell another not to have, what itself embrace for itself?

we should be helping them build their own, for do we think they will point them at what helped them to build it?

then, we, as all countries, point them at each other, and say, NOW WHAT, WE ALL ACHIEVED EQUAL POWER, AND CAN ELIMINATE EACH OTHER?

STALEMATE!

since no PERSON IN POWER WANTS TO DIE, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MORTAL.

then, after stalemate, of ALL AS EQUAL POWER, we could come to sane reasoning, and stop trying to PROVE WHOM BE MOST FIT TO RULE THE WORLD AS A DICTATOR.

those that demand the killing of other mortal's, without one consideration of the effect upon all as one, using not global peace as the guide, which be global equal for all, most in a global world, are always consumed and hung by thier own noose, when their own demands of treatment for other's, are turnd upon themself, by the dictator mentality they embraced in their own leadership in their own power system.

really?

how is that any PROOF?

one's OWN WORST CRITIQUE, MUST BE THE ONE TO WIN OVER, TO AGREE TO SELF INTELLECT, OR ANY SELF ABILITY, OR OF A GRAND GOOD JOB OF SELF, OR TO A GRAND "CHARACTER" IN SELF, OR A GRAND PERSONALITY IN SELF, OR A SUPERIOR SUCCESS IN ANY VENTURE THAT SELF ENDEAVOR IN, AND AS WELL, IN ANY COUNTRY DEEMED AS "BETTER"?

if we were at one time better, than it was only because we were open to "critique", TO GET BETTER?

YOUR STATEMENT ITSELF, SHOW'S NO WILL OR MOTIVE TO EVEN CARE ABOUT INTEGRITY, WHICH IS TO HAVE TO PROVE HOE SELF BE BETTER, WITH EVIDENCE SUPPORTED BY ALL?

perhaps it is but you welcome yourself as better, with no proof needed by any outside source, so do not wish for anybody else as well, to need any proof of their own merit, or status as BETTER, OR NOT GUILTY OF BIAS, OR RACISM, OR THE MOTIVE TO LOWER OTHER'S, FOR SAKE OF SELF INTEREST ALONE?

your statement AMERICA WOULD NEVER DO THIS, is but a statement?

why not?

how so?

have we ever done it before?

how can it be said, NO SUCH POTENIAL EXIST, for the very notion of beleiving such create the very FIRST POTENTIAL FOR JUST THAT TO BE CREATED?

such statement is based upon A GRANTED SELF SUPERIOR MENTALITY, WITH FULL IMMUNITY TO ANY FLAW, OR CRITIQUE AS EVEN REAL?

SO CRITIQUE KEEP SUCH FROM OCCURING IN AMERICA, AND HOW COULD THAT BE SO, IF ALL FIRST BELIEVED NO SUCH POTENIAL EXISTED TO START WITH?

that is no logic at all?

sheer uptopian belief, IN ONESELF, AND ALL THAT THINK AS SELF, with no room for ANY FAULT?

THAT IS THE MENTALITY OF THE "TYRANNICAL" that we are supposed to BOMB?

and we are immune ourself in AMERICA?

only if we embrace critique?

where oh where do you hear critique welcomed in the world at large?

is this not the only true sign of what be better?

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT EXIST WITH SOME CART BLANCHE "BETTER IN ALL CASES" THAT APPLY IN ANY TRUE REALITY?

do not ship builder's HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CRITIQUE, THAT THEIR SHIP IS BETTER, FOR IT TO BE SO?

the ruthless dictator way, THE IGNORANT WAY, IS TO DEMAND SELF'S SHIPS ARE ALWAYS BETTER?

and despise any SUGGESTION THAT THEY MAY NOT BE?

so, would be dictator's, THINK AS THIS, AND, are the one's that commit genocide?

it be no different WITH ANY COUNTRY RIGHT, AS ALL ARE HUMAN'S?

does not the collage grad have to convince the potential employer, the CRITIQUE, of IT'S VALUE?

so then the same apply with America convincing other nation's to FOLLOW US?

so the would be wannabee destroyer's as dictator's of other human lives, simply collect any other person, WHO THINKS OF THEMSELF AS SUPERIOR, that wants to destroy other's as less than themself, AND WA LAH, the kkk, the skinheads, the church with RELIGION'S, the acedemia, the military, govenrment, the gays that want to erase all hetro's as less, and on and on and on, IF THEY USE SUCH MENTALITY?

how can only what be blind not see such mentality has already taken hold and effect the common thiking process to a grand large degree, and already be believed as good belief, in the mass collective of even the world at large?

NO ONE ENTITY OF PEOPLE IS IMMUNE FROM BIGOTRY, THAT KILLS, LESS IT CAN SPOT IT IN ITSELF, and has enough caring about other's to NOT VALIDATE IT.

it it extreme self validation, AT ALL COST, believing in essence that somehow self is perfect in all it's own ways, that creates the very first supreior mentality, then dictator mentality, HEARING NOTHING BUT IT'S OWN BRAIN, AND WHAT TI CAN FIND THAT MATCH ITSELF, THAT BELIEVE BLINDLY THE NOTION OF WAR OR ANNILILATION OF OTHER'S, be the way of most good.

hitler mentality in full display, and already validated as good.

any governing body is capable of bias, as bias be in all human's, and America not falling prey to it would only ever be if the people's themself did not validate or endorse it themselves.

for anything with any intelligence know's, the more power, the more tendency to ABUSE IT, and TO USE IT UNFAIRLY, to destroy other HUMANS whom raise any complaint, as of course, the overwhelming inclination is to tend to see such as a threaten of self standing and power.

why was it called the "chains of the constitution?

BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THE ROOT PREMISE OF CRITIQUE OF LEADERSHIP, the very congress and senate and electoral set up to NOT give carte blanc TO ANYTHING!

APPROVAL BY THE CRITIQUE!

for anything to have or be deemed with merit?

THE VERY NOTION OF ALL DEMOCRACY IS TO HEAR CRITIQUE OF ALL AS HAVING MERIT?

THE VERY NOTION OF FREEDOM IS TO HEAR ALL CRITQUE AS HAVING MERIT, or there soon exist no freedom?

why the **** do you think the founding father's INSISTED THAT FREE SPEECH BE A "RIGHT OF ALL".

to even first declare, that AMERICA, or its leaders, or it's peoples, are not CAPABLE OF ANY FOUL MOTIVE, WOULD BE TO NOT SEE THE VIOLNCE AND KILLINGS THAT OCCUR WITHIN OUR SOCIETY ITSELF, and believe such human nature be only within the "commoner or the poor" for if one human wants to kill WITHOUT JUST CAUSE, THEN SO CAN COLLECTIVE BODIES OF POWER WHO ARE JUST PEOPLE, and any other assertion of just sheer propoganda and delusion and self conjecture taken on as true reality.

really?

how is that any PROOF?

one's OWN WORST CRITIQUE, MUST BE THE ONE TO WIN OVER, TO AGREE TO SELF INTELLECT, OR ANY SELF ABILITY, OR OF A GRAND GOOD JOB OF SELF, OR TO A GRAND "CHARACTER" IN SELF, OR A GRAND PERSONALITY IN SELF, OR A SUPERIOR SUCCESS IN ANY VENTURE THAT SELF ENDEAVOR IN, AND AS WELL, IN ANY COUNTRY DEEMED AS "BETTER"?

if we were at one time better, than it was only because we were open to "critique", TO GET BETTER?

YOUR STATEMENT ITSELF, SHOW'S NO WILL OR MOTIVE TO EVEN CARE ABOUT INTEGRITY, WHICH IS TO HAVE TO PROVE HOE SELF BE BETTER, WITH EVIDENCE SUPPORTED BY ALL?

perhaps it is but you welcome yourself as better, with no proof needed by any outside source, so do not wish for anybody else as well, to need any proof of their own merit, or status as BETTER, OR NOT GUILTY OF BIAS, OR RACISM, OR THE MOTIVE TO LOWER OTHER'S, FOR SAKE OF SELF INTEREST ALONE?

your statement AMERICA WOULD NEVER DO THIS, is but a statement?

why not?

how so?

have we ever done it before?

how can it be said, NO SUCH POTENIAL EXIST, for the very notion of beleiving such create the very FIRST POTENTIAL FOR JUST THAT TO BE CREATED?

such statement is based upon A GRANTED SELF SUPERIOR MENTALITY, WITH FULL IMMUNITY TO ANY FLAW, OR CRITIQUE AS EVEN REAL?

SO CRITIQUE KEEP SUCH FROM OCCURING IN AMERICA, AND HOW COULD THAT BE SO, IF ALL FIRST BELIEVED NO SUCH POTENIAL EXISTED TO START WITH?

that is no logic at all?

sheer uptopian belief, IN ONESELF, AND ALL THAT THINK AS SELF, with no room for ANY FAULT?

THAT IS THE MENTALITY OF THE "TYRANNICAL" that we are supposed to BOMB?

and we are immune ourself in AMERICA?

only if we embrace critique?

where oh where do you hear critique welcomed in the world at large?

is this not the only true sign of what be better?

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT EXIST WITH SOME CART BLANCHE "BETTER IN ALL CASES" THAT APPLY IN ANY TRUE REALITY?

do not ship builder's HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CRITIQUE, THAT THEIR SHIP IS BETTER, FOR IT TO BE SO?

the ruthless dictator way, THE IGNORANT WAY, IS TO DEMAND SELF'S SHIPS ARE ALWAYS BETTER?

and despise any SUGGESTION THAT THEY MAY NOT BE?

so, would be dictator's, THINK AS THIS, AND, are the one's that commit genocide?

it be no different WITH ANY COUNTRY RIGHT, AS ALL ARE HUMAN'S?

does not the collage grad have to convince the potential employer, the CRITIQUE, of IT'S VALUE?

so then the same apply with America convincing other nation's to FOLLOW US?

so the would be wannabee destroyer's as dictator's of other human lives, simply collect any other person, WHO THINKS OF THEMSELF AS SUPERIOR, that wants to destroy other's as less than themself, AND WA LAH, the kkk, the skinheads, the church with RELIGION'S, the acedemia, the military, govenrment, the gays that want to erase all hetro's as less, and on and on and on, IF THEY USE SUCH MENTALITY?

how can only what be blind not see such mentality has already taken hold and effect the common thiking process to a grand large degree, and already be believed as good belief, in the mass collective of even the world at large?

NO ONE ENTITY OF PEOPLE IS IMMUNE FROM BIGOTRY, THAT KILLS, LESS IT CAN SPOT IT IN ITSELF, and has enough caring about other's to NOT VALIDATE IT.

it it extreme self validation, AT ALL COST, believing in essence that somehow self is perfect in all it's own ways, that creates the very first supreior mentality, then dictator mentality, HEARING NOTHING BUT IT'S OWN BRAIN, AND WHAT TI CAN FIND THAT MATCH ITSELF, THAT BELIEVE BLINDLY THE NOTION OF WAR OR ANNILILATION OF OTHER'S, be the way of most good.

hitler mentality in full display, and already validated as good.

any governing body is capable of bias, as bias be in all human's, and America not falling prey to it would only ever be if the people's themself did not validate or endorse it themselves.

for anything with any intelligence know's, the more power, the more tendency to ABUSE IT, and TO USE IT UNFAIRLY, to destroy other HUMANS whom raise any complaint, as of course, the overwhelming inclination is to tend to see such as a threaten of self standing and power.

why was it called the "chains of the constitution?

BECAUSE OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THE ROOT PREMISE OF CRITIQUE OF LEADERSHIP, the very congress and senate and electoral set up to NOT give carte blanc TO ANYTHING!

APPROVAL BY THE CRITIQUE!

for anything to have or be deemed with merit?

THE VERY NOTION OF ALL DEMOCRACY IS TO HEAR CRITIQUE OF ALL AS HAVING MERIT?

THE VERY NOTION OF FREEDOM IS TO HEAR ALL CRITQUE AS HAVING MERIT, or there soon exist no freedom?

why the **** do you think the founding father's INSISTED THAT FREE SPEECH BE A "RIGHT OF ALL".

to even first declare, that AMERICA, or its leaders, or it's peoples, are not CAPABLE OF ANY FOUL MOTIVE, WOULD BE TO NOT SEE THE VIOLNCE AND KILLINGS THAT OCCUR WITHIN OUR SOCIETY ITSELF, and believe such human nature be only within the "commoner or the poor" for if one human wants to kill WITHOUT JUST CAUSE, THEN SO CAN COLLECTIVE BODIES OF POWER WHO ARE JUST PEOPLE, and any other assertion of just sheer propoganda and delusion and self conjecture taken on as true reality.

i stop listening when i hear how the founding fathers were so high and mighty in their "freedom for all" when they were importing slaves at the same time...that freedom for all didn't mean countries around the globe, they were talking about here in America. sometimes things need to be done that everyone won't agree with for the good of the nation. sorry you don't agree with war, but sometimes it is necessary, look throughout history and you will see. WW1and WW2 were very good examples of what i just said. if we didn't get involved, japan and germany would have been to strong, and we would have lost...