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There are many legitimate reasons for confidentiality chief
among them diplomacy, law enforcement and military planning. Assange and Wikileaks are enemies of many states now but especially and particularly enemies of the U.S. for revealing obviously confidential information stolen illegally by another U.S. traitor. Their actions were wrong and damaging and it is appropriate that they be held accountable. |
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Assange is a sensationalist like most of the media. That is how he makes a living. He is not a US Citizen so we can not bring any charges against him except through International justice. Not being a US Citizen, he has no loyalty to us and could care less how much damage his actions harm our international interests. The traitor, the real criminal, is being held responsible. Too bad the punishment he faces will not be his life. Either way, for revealing the traitor. We should thank Assange.  I would thank Bradley Manning as well though, for exposing the crimes of the Military-Industrial-Government complex.
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There are many legitimate reasons for confidentiality chief among them diplomacy, law enforcement and military planning. Assange and Wikileaks are enemies of many states now but especially and particularly enemies of the U.S. for revealing obviously confidential information stolen illegally by another U.S. traitor. I completely agree with your post. Their actions were wrong and damaging and it is appropriate that they be held accountable. Their actions are damaging to some entities, and I understand that those entities would naturally want to prevent it from continuing. As far as their actions being 'wrong': some of their actions I'd agree, others I wouldn't. A great deal of military action, which we take as a matter of course in this world, is also wrong (which is not to imply that any of Assanges actions are less wrong - I'm just sayin'). |
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Assange is a sensationalist like most of the media. That is how he makes a living. He is not a US Citizen so we can not bring any charges against him except through International justice. Not being a US Citizen, he has no loyalty to us and could care less how much damage his actions harm our international interests. The traitor, the real criminal, is being held responsible. Too bad the punishment he faces will not be his life. Either way, for revealing the traitor. We should thank Assange. I would thank Bradley Manning as well though, for exposing the crimes of the Military-Industrial-Government complex. I would like to see Bradley Manning hanged for Treason. |
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I have news for you, lpdon: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/21/assange Every major media outlet blared overnight headlines that Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, had been criminally charged with rape and molestation in Sweden and arrested in abstentia. This morning, however, we find this: Sweden Rescinds Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish prosecutors have withdrawn an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying the rape suspicions against him are unfounded. In a brief statement Saturday, chief prosecutor Eva Finne says: ''I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape.'' An NBC News report states: Swedish prosecutors on Saturday withdrew an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying a rape allegation it was based on is unfounded. The accusation was labeled a dirty trick by Julian Assange and his group, who are preparing to release a fresh batch of classified U.S. documents from the Afghan war. Swedish prosecutors had urged Assange -- a nomadic 39-year-old Australian whose whereabouts were unclear -- to turn himself in to police to face questioning in one case involving suspicions of rape and another based on an accusation of molestation. "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," chief prosecutor Eva Finne said, in announcing the withdrawal of the warrant. . . Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish Prosecution Authority, told NBC News that the allegation of molestation remains. However, Rosander said that after a new prosecutor looked at the allegations, the arrest warrant was withdrawn because the severity of the case does not require an arrest at this stage. There are a lot of lessons here, most of them obvious. In 2003, the ex-Marine and U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter -- who had become one of the most persuasive opponents of the attack on Iraq, repeatedly and presciently insisting that there was no evidence of WMD -- was the subject of a media smear campaign, accusing him of having engaged in criminal sex acts with adolescents. That led to commentary like this from the nation's sleaziest bottom-feeders: A THEORY [Jonah Goldberg] Maybe this has already been discussed. But it seems to me this Scott Ritter kiddie-sex bust might explain Ritter's sudden and inexplicable 180 on Iraq. Maybe they set him up in a sting? That sort of thing was standard op for the KGB. Just a thought. Maybe one day we'll learn that an accusation is not proof of guilt. And the Swedish authorities who validated these charges and trumpeted them to the world -- only for them to be withdrawn less than 12 hours later -- ought to be investigated. UPDATE: Speaking of unfounded smears, compare this, from Reuters, July 30 . . . . "Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing," [Adm. Mike] Mullen said. "But the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family." . . . . to this, from The Washington Post, August 11: "We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents," [Pentagon spokesman Geoff] Morrell said. And, for good meausre, add in this to the "blood on their hands" smear, from The New York Times, August 14: There is a "fair chance" that a NATO jet inadvertently killed five Afghan civilians during a shootout with Taliban fighters in a village in southern Afghanistan earlier this week, an American official said Saturday. And from The Los Angeles Times, today: Three Afghan policemen were killed in an apparently errant coalition airstrike in Jowzjan province, in Afghanistan's north, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said. In Farah province, in western Afghanistan, a woman and two children were killed in an airstrike that was aimed at insurgents, it said, and expressed regret over the civilian deaths. ACTUALLY, they issued a warrant months ago that they pulled back, it was re-issued last week. Regardless, you should know that Assange is only the spokesman for wikileaks. Even if he were arrested, the operation would continue. Plus, wikileaks has promised a new data dump of highly sensitive material if something happens to Assange. Everything that is playing out in the media is mostly for show, as usual. It doesn't matter, this guy is a rapist and needs to be locked up for that while our Government brings charges on him. |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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I have news for you, lpdon: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/21/assange Every major media outlet blared overnight headlines that Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, had been criminally charged with rape and molestation in Sweden and arrested in abstentia. This morning, however, we find this: Sweden Rescinds Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish prosecutors have withdrawn an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying the rape suspicions against him are unfounded. In a brief statement Saturday, chief prosecutor Eva Finne says: ''I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape.'' An NBC News report states: Swedish prosecutors on Saturday withdrew an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying a rape allegation it was based on is unfounded. The accusation was labeled a dirty trick by Julian Assange and his group, who are preparing to release a fresh batch of classified U.S. documents from the Afghan war. Swedish prosecutors had urged Assange -- a nomadic 39-year-old Australian whose whereabouts were unclear -- to turn himself in to police to face questioning in one case involving suspicions of rape and another based on an accusation of molestation. "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," chief prosecutor Eva Finne said, in announcing the withdrawal of the warrant. . . Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish Prosecution Authority, told NBC News that the allegation of molestation remains. However, Rosander said that after a new prosecutor looked at the allegations, the arrest warrant was withdrawn because the severity of the case does not require an arrest at this stage. There are a lot of lessons here, most of them obvious. In 2003, the ex-Marine and U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter -- who had become one of the most persuasive opponents of the attack on Iraq, repeatedly and presciently insisting that there was no evidence of WMD -- was the subject of a media smear campaign, accusing him of having engaged in criminal sex acts with adolescents. That led to commentary like this from the nation's sleaziest bottom-feeders: A THEORY [Jonah Goldberg] Maybe this has already been discussed. But it seems to me this Scott Ritter kiddie-sex bust might explain Ritter's sudden and inexplicable 180 on Iraq. Maybe they set him up in a sting? That sort of thing was standard op for the KGB. Just a thought. Maybe one day we'll learn that an accusation is not proof of guilt. And the Swedish authorities who validated these charges and trumpeted them to the world -- only for them to be withdrawn less than 12 hours later -- ought to be investigated. UPDATE: Speaking of unfounded smears, compare this, from Reuters, July 30 . . . . "Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing," [Adm. Mike] Mullen said. "But the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family." . . . . to this, from The Washington Post, August 11: "We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents," [Pentagon spokesman Geoff] Morrell said. And, for good meausre, add in this to the "blood on their hands" smear, from The New York Times, August 14: There is a "fair chance" that a NATO jet inadvertently killed five Afghan civilians during a shootout with Taliban fighters in a village in southern Afghanistan earlier this week, an American official said Saturday. And from The Los Angeles Times, today: Three Afghan policemen were killed in an apparently errant coalition airstrike in Jowzjan province, in Afghanistan's north, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said. In Farah province, in western Afghanistan, a woman and two children were killed in an airstrike that was aimed at insurgents, it said, and expressed regret over the civilian deaths. ACTUALLY, they issued a warrant months ago that they pulled back, it was re-issued last week. Regardless, you should know that Assange is only the spokesman for wikileaks. Even if he were arrested, the operation would continue. Plus, wikileaks has promised a new data dump of highly sensitive material if something happens to Assange. Everything that is playing out in the media is mostly for show, as usual. It doesn't matter, this guy is a rapist and needs to be locked up for that while our Government brings charges on him. Ah, but the burden of proof is on the accuser(s). This proof has not yet materialized. Anyone can make an accusation (recall the Duke lacross affair), but it's another thing to prove it. |
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Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, will be publicly humiliated so that it draws more attention to his message thus giving him a false sense of credibility. Notice the sequence of events.. Julian assange reaches the world with mass media for getting ready to release "top-secret" documents. Wikileaks releases top secret documents. Julian Assange makes headlines all over the world. Julian Assange, as predicted by Jesuit Illuminati gatekeeper and scaremonger, Alex Jones, has his appearance destroyed publicly drawing more attention to his "top-secret" information, for the public makes an obvious connection between his "honorable" release of "top-secret" documents and the allegations accused against him thus making him a hero to the sheeples' eyes. The truth is that Assange is really a disinformation agent only revealing half-truths to take the minds' eye off of the whole truth regarding the Jesuit Illuminati control over world politics.
Here is more evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYIC2BMhE5A |
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Edited by
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Mon 12/06/10 05:31 PM
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not
Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. no offense, but that is something that would have to be proven to me.... i just don't believe that... |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. no offense, but that is something that would have to be proven to me.... i just don't believe that... there is great respect to be found in your answer here. time will surely show, that more accountability TO THE PEOPLE, in the hallways of ULTIMATE POWER, will be created from this happening, and this dear friend, will never prove to be harmful to the people or for the people, but rather helps induce a liberation of liberty for the people, for whom government was sowrn to protect, above and beyond their own self interests, something far too removed from politics today, where special interest has bought nearly every last leader with luxury and greenbacks and prominence for themself. |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. Excellent points!
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. no offense, but that is something that would have to be proven to me.... i just don't believe that... there is great respect to be found in your answer here. time will surely show, that more accountability TO THE PEOPLE, in the hallways of ULTIMATE POWER, will be created from this happening, and this dear friend, will never prove to be harmful to the people or for the people, but rather helps induce a liberation of liberty for the people, for whom government was sowrn to protect, above and beyond their own self interests, something far too removed from politics today, where special interest has bought nearly every last leader with luxury and greenbacks and prominence for themself. i won't argue that, because that is another issue altogether... if wiki was just trying to expose corruption in politics, i would be all for it. but i feel the military should be left alone, they have a hard enough job to do without someone trying to make it another vietnam... |
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vietnam would never have happened if there was transparency in government, and accountability TO THE PEOPLE, which this move by Assange enhances, on all fronts.
even Hillary stated no harm would come from this leak. so, one of our own highest leaders, in charge of this arm of the government, delcared no harm would come from it. so, if one wants to blindly back the government, regardless of any integrity or not, then to not back Hillary on this, is just as unpatriotic and un American. America was founded on the premise of DISSENT AS PATRIOTIC. ON THE FOUNDATION OF SCRUTINY OF INTEGRITY CREATING TRUE GREATNESS. since she, Hillary, is the one ultimately responsible for diplomatic procedures, if she says no harm done, then i support her. Assange could win in court, simply using her own words, lol... which no doubt were spoken to shield herself from any bad pr or wrong doing on her part. but either way, more transparency in POWER, helps KEEP TROOPS FROM BEING USED AS PAWNS FOR SPECIAL INTEREST. HELPS KEEP YOUR BROTHERS LIVES FROM BEING TAKEN FROM THEM FOR MILITARY PROFITS. TRANSPARENCY HELPS KEEP AMERICANS FREE. transparency helps keep our DEFENSE BUDGET A PRIORITY. accountability to the people, and TO THE ENEMY, HELPS MAKE SURE AMERICA IS READY FOR ANY ENEMY, AND OUR LEADERS ON THEIR TOES, AS REMEMBER, YOUR LIFE AND THE LIFE OF ALL AMERICANS, IS BUILT UPON "NO COMPLACENY", AND FALSE SENSE OF SAFETY. this will CERTAINLY HELP ERASE ANY FALSE SENSE OF SAFTEY, THAT SELF PROFESSED SUPER POWERS STRUGGLE WITH. |
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Dont know what all the fuss is about. These are reports from Politicians employed on behalf of the american people. If these politicians are speaking out of turn then hold them accountable,not Julian Assange. Seems to me that those politicians asking for the Wikileaks boss to be executed are afraid something really bad is going to turn up. In other news Palin showed us all what a nut job she is claiming he should be executed. News flash Sarah, most people think he is doing a great service to our country something the "Lamestream" media should be doing. most people? you do live in your own world, don't you? If you peruse world news from foreign papers (and non-MSM American news-which is what most people read/watch now), you'll find that he's right-most people do think he's doing a great service to America. And I concur. Just remember all countries have an agenda and usually voice through their own media outlets........all political ideas wars and messages are put forth through media outlets internet etc to sway opinion in their favor........ |
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The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State."
Joseph Goebbels - Adolf Hitler's Minister of Propaganda |
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vietnam would never have happened if there was transparency in government, and accountability TO THE PEOPLE, which this move by Assange enhances, on all fronts. even Hillary stated no harm would come from this leak. so, one of our own highest leaders, in charge of this arm of the government, delcared no harm would come from it. so, if one wants to blindly back the government, regardless of any integrity or not, then to not back Hillary on this, is just as unpatriotic and un American. America was founded on the premise of DISSENT AS PATRIOTIC. ON THE FOUNDATION OF SCRUTINY OF INTEGRITY CREATING TRUE GREATNESS. since she, Hillary, is the one ultimately responsible for diplomatic procedures, if she says no harm done, then i support her. Assange could win in court, simply using her own words, lol... which no doubt were spoken to shield herself from any bad pr or wrong doing on her part. but either way, more transparency in POWER, helps KEEP TROOPS FROM BEING USED AS PAWNS FOR SPECIAL INTEREST. HELPS KEEP YOUR BROTHERS LIVES FROM BEING TAKEN FROM THEM FOR MILITARY PROFITS. TRANSPARENCY HELPS KEEP AMERICANS FREE. transparency helps keep our DEFENSE BUDGET A PRIORITY. accountability to the people, and TO THE ENEMY, HELPS MAKE SURE AMERICA IS READY FOR ANY ENEMY, AND OUR LEADERS ON THEIR TOES, AS REMEMBER, YOUR LIFE AND THE LIFE OF ALL AMERICANS, IS BUILT UPON "NO COMPLACENY", AND FALSE SENSE OF SAFETY. this will CERTAINLY HELP ERASE ANY FALSE SENSE OF SAFTEY, THAT SELF PROFESSED SUPER POWERS STRUGGLE WITH. when was clinton in the military? is she a military expert? i'll listen people that are/were in the military... no one else knows what the troops are going through... |
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