Topic: Interpol Issues Arrest Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder
heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/05/10 03:49 PM


Best of luck to Julian in evading the Regime. His services to humanity are awesome. drinker


Your applauding a man for two women? Your sick.


No, I'm applauding him for helping expose the lies of the regime. Besides, the rape charges against him are BS.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/05/10 03:50 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Sun 12/05/10 03:53 PM

Actually the U.S. is one of the best countries in the world in
routing out corruption. We have a free press and freedom of speech
and a decent judiciary and military protocol.

If you want to go after corruption, go after the countries which
do not have these safeguards and movements like the radical Islamic
terrorists who actually try to terrorize and kill people on purpose.

whoa yawn


One of the best at routing out corruption? laugh rofl rofl rofl

You don't need to go halfway around the world to find those kind of people. We have enough people here who terrorize and kill people on purpose-especially cops and politicians.

davidben1's photo
Sun 12/05/10 04:12 PM
lets see...

we have a male.



a computor hacker, so he totally knows the power those hold whom control computor servers and hardlines...

and the powers of the USA.

but, he believs the world so needs to hear this data, that he is willing to put his own life at risk, knowing he cannot hide from world powers, knowing and accepting in advance his own death is probably going to be the outcome?

when is the last time one put it's own life at risk, to divulge information?

please...

the current dumbed down mentalities of the armchair asassins would no sooner recognize what fights for them and the common good, then they would recognize their own true enemies sitting in their own living room.


Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/05/10 04:17 PM



Best of luck to Julian in evading the Regime. His services to humanity are awesome. drinker


Your applauding a man for two women? Your sick.


No, I'm applauding him for helping expose the lies of the regime. Besides, the rape charges against him are BS.


No they arn't, they are serious charges and the guy is a creep.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/05/10 04:24 PM
I have news for you, lpdon:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/21/assange

Every major media outlet blared overnight headlines that Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, had been criminally charged with rape and molestation in Sweden and arrested in abstentia. This morning, however, we find this:

Sweden Rescinds Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish prosecutors have withdrawn an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying the rape suspicions against him are unfounded.

In a brief statement Saturday, chief prosecutor Eva Finne says: ''I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape.''

An NBC News report states:

Swedish prosecutors on Saturday withdrew an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying a rape allegation it was based on is unfounded.

The accusation was labeled a dirty trick by Julian Assange and his group, who are preparing to release a fresh batch of classified U.S. documents from the Afghan war.

Swedish prosecutors had urged Assange -- a nomadic 39-year-old Australian whose whereabouts were unclear -- to turn himself in to police to face questioning in one case involving suspicions of rape and another based on an accusation of molestation.

"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," chief prosecutor Eva Finne said, in announcing the withdrawal of the warrant. . . Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish Prosecution Authority, told NBC News that the allegation of molestation remains. However, Rosander said that after a new prosecutor looked at the allegations, the arrest warrant was withdrawn because the severity of the case does not require an arrest at this stage.

There are a lot of lessons here, most of them obvious. In 2003, the ex-Marine and U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter -- who had become one of the most persuasive opponents of the attack on Iraq, repeatedly and presciently insisting that there was no evidence of WMD -- was the subject of a media smear campaign, accusing him of having engaged in criminal sex acts with adolescents. That led to commentary like this from the nation's sleaziest bottom-feeders:

A THEORY [Jonah Goldberg]

Maybe this has already been discussed. But it seems to me this Scott Ritter kiddie-sex bust might explain Ritter's sudden and inexplicable 180 on Iraq. Maybe they set him up in a sting? That sort of thing was standard op for the KGB. Just a thought.

Maybe one day we'll learn that an accusation is not proof of guilt. And the Swedish authorities who validated these charges and trumpeted them to the world -- only for them to be withdrawn less than 12 hours later -- ought to be investigated.



UPDATE: Speaking of unfounded smears, compare this, from Reuters, July 30 . . . .

"Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing," [Adm. Mike] Mullen said. "But the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family."

. . . . to this, from The Washington Post, August 11:

"We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents," [Pentagon spokesman Geoff] Morrell said.

And, for good meausre, add in this to the "blood on their hands" smear, from The New York Times, August 14:

There is a "fair chance" that a NATO jet inadvertently killed five Afghan civilians during a shootout with Taliban fighters in a village in southern Afghanistan earlier this week, an American official said Saturday.

And from The Los Angeles Times, today:

Three Afghan policemen were killed in an apparently errant coalition airstrike in Jowzjan province, in Afghanistan's north, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said. In Farah province, in western Afghanistan, a woman and two children were killed in an airstrike that was aimed at insurgents, it said, and expressed regret over the civilian deaths.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/05/10 04:32 PM

I have news for you, lpdon:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/21/assange

Every major media outlet blared overnight headlines that Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, had been criminally charged with rape and molestation in Sweden and arrested in abstentia. This morning, however, we find this:

Sweden Rescinds Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish prosecutors have withdrawn an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying the rape suspicions against him are unfounded.

In a brief statement Saturday, chief prosecutor Eva Finne says: ''I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape.''

An NBC News report states:

Swedish prosecutors on Saturday withdrew an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying a rape allegation it was based on is unfounded.

The accusation was labeled a dirty trick by Julian Assange and his group, who are preparing to release a fresh batch of classified U.S. documents from the Afghan war.

Swedish prosecutors had urged Assange -- a nomadic 39-year-old Australian whose whereabouts were unclear -- to turn himself in to police to face questioning in one case involving suspicions of rape and another based on an accusation of molestation.

"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," chief prosecutor Eva Finne said, in announcing the withdrawal of the warrant. . . Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish Prosecution Authority, told NBC News that the allegation of molestation remains. However, Rosander said that after a new prosecutor looked at the allegations, the arrest warrant was withdrawn because the severity of the case does not require an arrest at this stage.

There are a lot of lessons here, most of them obvious. In 2003, the ex-Marine and U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter -- who had become one of the most persuasive opponents of the attack on Iraq, repeatedly and presciently insisting that there was no evidence of WMD -- was the subject of a media smear campaign, accusing him of having engaged in criminal sex acts with adolescents. That led to commentary like this from the nation's sleaziest bottom-feeders:

A THEORY [Jonah Goldberg]

Maybe this has already been discussed. But it seems to me this Scott Ritter kiddie-sex bust might explain Ritter's sudden and inexplicable 180 on Iraq. Maybe they set him up in a sting? That sort of thing was standard op for the KGB. Just a thought.

Maybe one day we'll learn that an accusation is not proof of guilt. And the Swedish authorities who validated these charges and trumpeted them to the world -- only for them to be withdrawn less than 12 hours later -- ought to be investigated.



UPDATE: Speaking of unfounded smears, compare this, from Reuters, July 30 . . . .

"Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing," [Adm. Mike] Mullen said. "But the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family."

. . . . to this, from The Washington Post, August 11:

"We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents," [Pentagon spokesman Geoff] Morrell said.

And, for good meausre, add in this to the "blood on their hands" smear, from The New York Times, August 14:

There is a "fair chance" that a NATO jet inadvertently killed five Afghan civilians during a shootout with Taliban fighters in a village in southern Afghanistan earlier this week, an American official said Saturday.

And from The Los Angeles Times, today:

Three Afghan policemen were killed in an apparently errant coalition airstrike in Jowzjan province, in Afghanistan's north, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said. In Farah province, in western Afghanistan, a woman and two children were killed in an airstrike that was aimed at insurgents, it said, and expressed regret over the civilian deaths.



ACTUALLY, they issued a warrant months ago that they pulled back, it was re-issued last week.

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 12/05/10 04:44 PM

lets see...

we have a male.



a computor hacker, so he totally knows the power those hold whom control computor servers and hardlines...

and the powers of the USA.

but, he believs the world so needs to hear this data, that he is willing to put his own life at risk, knowing he cannot hide from world powers, knowing and accepting in advance his own death is probably going to be the outcome?

when is the last time one put it's own life at risk, to divulge information?

please...

the current dumbed down mentalities of the armchair asassins would no sooner recognize what fights for them and the common good, then they would recognize their own true enemies sitting in their own living room.


Agreed what our government does behind closed doors cannot withstand the light of day.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sun 12/05/10 04:58 PM


I have news for you, lpdon:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/21/assange

Every major media outlet blared overnight headlines that Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, had been criminally charged with rape and molestation in Sweden and arrested in abstentia. This morning, however, we find this:

Sweden Rescinds Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder

STOCKHOLM (AP) -- Swedish prosecutors have withdrawn an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying the rape suspicions against him are unfounded.

In a brief statement Saturday, chief prosecutor Eva Finne says: ''I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape.''

An NBC News report states:

Swedish prosecutors on Saturday withdrew an arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying a rape allegation it was based on is unfounded.

The accusation was labeled a dirty trick by Julian Assange and his group, who are preparing to release a fresh batch of classified U.S. documents from the Afghan war.

Swedish prosecutors had urged Assange -- a nomadic 39-year-old Australian whose whereabouts were unclear -- to turn himself in to police to face questioning in one case involving suspicions of rape and another based on an accusation of molestation.

"I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape," chief prosecutor Eva Finne said, in announcing the withdrawal of the warrant. . . Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish Prosecution Authority, told NBC News that the allegation of molestation remains. However, Rosander said that after a new prosecutor looked at the allegations, the arrest warrant was withdrawn because the severity of the case does not require an arrest at this stage.

There are a lot of lessons here, most of them obvious. In 2003, the ex-Marine and U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter -- who had become one of the most persuasive opponents of the attack on Iraq, repeatedly and presciently insisting that there was no evidence of WMD -- was the subject of a media smear campaign, accusing him of having engaged in criminal sex acts with adolescents. That led to commentary like this from the nation's sleaziest bottom-feeders:

A THEORY [Jonah Goldberg]

Maybe this has already been discussed. But it seems to me this Scott Ritter kiddie-sex bust might explain Ritter's sudden and inexplicable 180 on Iraq. Maybe they set him up in a sting? That sort of thing was standard op for the KGB. Just a thought.

Maybe one day we'll learn that an accusation is not proof of guilt. And the Swedish authorities who validated these charges and trumpeted them to the world -- only for them to be withdrawn less than 12 hours later -- ought to be investigated.



UPDATE: Speaking of unfounded smears, compare this, from Reuters, July 30 . . . .

"Mr. Assange can say whatever he likes about the greater good he thinks he and his source are doing," [Adm. Mike] Mullen said. "But the truth is they might already have on their hands the blood of some young soldier or that of an Afghan family."

. . . . to this, from The Washington Post, August 11:

"We have yet to see any harm come to anyone in Afghanistan that we can directly tie to exposure in the WikiLeaks documents," [Pentagon spokesman Geoff] Morrell said.

And, for good meausre, add in this to the "blood on their hands" smear, from The New York Times, August 14:

There is a "fair chance" that a NATO jet inadvertently killed five Afghan civilians during a shootout with Taliban fighters in a village in southern Afghanistan earlier this week, an American official said Saturday.

And from The Los Angeles Times, today:

Three Afghan policemen were killed in an apparently errant coalition airstrike in Jowzjan province, in Afghanistan's north, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said. In Farah province, in western Afghanistan, a woman and two children were killed in an airstrike that was aimed at insurgents, it said, and expressed regret over the civilian deaths.



ACTUALLY, they issued a warrant months ago that they pulled back, it was re-issued last week.


Regardless, you should know that Assange is only the spokesman for wikileaks. Even if he were arrested, the operation would continue. Plus, wikileaks has promised a new data dump of highly sensitive material if something happens to Assange. Everything that is playing out in the media is mostly for show, as usual.

mightymoe's photo
Sun 12/05/10 05:39 PM
so now that this stuff is there for you to read, is your life any better now? has it done you any good?all these people he is exposing are bad people? the pilot that was flying the plane that killed the afganies is evil? what is wrong with you people? all he is exposing is people that made a mistake, and you are standing there with the rope ready...i hope it you behind that wheel when a mistake is made, just so you know what this guy is doing... he found a way to make a buck off of others misfortunes and you label him a hero...

HappyDude111's photo
Sun 12/05/10 06:24 PM
@heavenlyboy34

Good work! As Shakespeare quoted.. "The whole world is a stage."

These elitists play chess with our conscious minds and our predictable human behavior thinking 30 moves ahead, so you need to think 35 moves ahead.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 12/05/10 06:51 PM

so now that this stuff is there for you to read, is your life any better now? has it done you any good?all these people he is exposing are bad people? the pilot that was flying the plane that killed the afganies is evil? what is wrong with you people? all he is exposing is people that made a mistake, and you are standing there with the rope ready...i hope it you behind that wheel when a mistake is made, just so you know what this guy is doing... he found a way to make a buck off of others misfortunes and you label him a hero...


Not to mention he is a rapist and sex offender.

davidben1's photo
Sun 12/05/10 06:56 PM
has it become that if someone says so, it is true?

seems only delusional unsane brains would believe in what they have no proof for.

but, then those that believe in every negative assertion about other's, and none about themself, are the unsane, the zombies, that rattle back but what they wish to believe as true, to maintain their tv show induced reality.

news flash...

tv is entertainment.

not fact.

facts MUST BE PROVEN, to be accepted as facts.

but of course, sane brains already know this...


mightymoe's photo
Sun 12/05/10 07:05 PM

has it become that if someone says so, it is true?

seems only delusional unsane brains would believe in what they have no proof for.

but, then those that believe in every negative assertion about other's, and none about themself, are the unsane, the zombies, that rattle back but what they wish to believe as true, to maintain their tv show induced reality.

news flash...

tv is entertainment.

not fact.

facts MUST BE PROVEN, to be accepted as facts.

but of course, sane brains already know this...




well, it is a fact that someone leaked classified documents to a website...

Fanta46's photo
Sun 12/05/10 07:12 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 12/05/10 07:14 PM
Assange is a sensationalist like most of the media. That is how he makes a living. He is not a US Citizen so we can not bring any charges against him except through International justice. Not being a US Citizen, he has no loyalty to us and could care less how much damage his actions harm our international interests.

The traitor, the real criminal, is being held responsible.
Too bad the punishment he faces will not be his life.

Either way,
for revealing the traitor.
We should thank Assange.

davidben1's photo
Sun 12/05/10 07:25 PM


has it become that if someone says so, it is true?

seems only delusional unsane brains would believe in what they have no proof for.

but, then those that believe in every negative assertion about other's, and none about themself, are the unsane, the zombies, that rattle back but what they wish to believe as true, to maintain their tv show induced reality.

news flash...

tv is entertainment.

not fact.

facts MUST BE PROVEN, to be accepted as facts.

but of course, sane brains already know this...




well, it is a fact that someone leaked classified documents to a website...



YES!

will not dispute that.

but all the true facts regarding it, are not known.

but, each in the world, including YOU AND I, know more about ALL THINGS IN THE WORLD, and for that, i am grateful.

are not wise decisions for self, based upon the most AVAILABLE DATA, OF ALL THE ACTIONS OF ALL OTHERS AROUND SELF?

these leaks show many good things, that we need to know...

first and foremost, the grave security holes in our own national defense, as if he can get obtain such data, than WHO THE **** ELSE CAN?

who else may ALREADY HAVE?

perhaps many of our enemies?

what about hackers working for N. korea, and Russia?

what about hackers working for islamist nations?

would not KNOWING about such grave security breaches be far greater and more important information, than to get caught up in some personal anger or mailce toward Assange?

so what if he did it...

and those that say it's about money, would be very remisss not to notice one with the background of Assange, could find many ways to make MUCH MORE MONEY, and NOT PUT HIMSELF ON THE WORLDS MOST WANTED LIST?

any deeper insight would be able to see there is something not all adding up in the entire story.

if he is guilty, then he will be brought to trial, and evidence produced, and serve his penalty...

but in all cases, the happening itself actually helps the US, IF the US wishes to identify security lapses, and take steps to prevent them...

no mortal alive can make me believe that many others cannot and have not done the same as Assange, lest one is stupid enough to think he is the most brillinat hacker alive, and the only one with a reason to aquire sensitive data.

Assanges' own speech, belie's the fact that he is not in this for money for sure, and that he knew full well the ramifications of his deeds...

so one things for sure, it is for a greater purpose.

to deem him a rpaist, and a molester, simply by the words of other's whom may as well, have ulterior motives, is a total subversion of all constituional standards, ignores all things America was foudned upon, was LAW, to protect the INNOCENT, UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW.

being that we have ****ing high ranking politicians in this country and others, calling for his ASSASSINATION, WITH NO DUE PROCESS, SHOULD BE WHAT ALARMS SANE PEOPLE MORE THAN ANYTHING!

when those in power, have NO FEAR, OF CALLING FOR AN ASSASSINATION, WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THEM?

that SUCH IS COMMONPLACE TO THEM.

normal to them!

what do they know that we don't?

since when are assassinations accepted by any none corrupt country?

please...

look deeper, or believe in illusions.












no photo
Sun 12/05/10 07:45 PM

so now that this stuff is there for you to read, is your life any better now? has it done you any good?all these people he is exposing are bad people? the pilot that was flying the plane that killed the afganies is evil? what is wrong with you people? all he is exposing is people that made a mistake, and you are standing there with the rope ready...i hope it you behind that wheel when a mistake is made, just so you know what this guy is doing... he found a way to make a buck off of others misfortunes and you label him a hero...


I'm not standing here with a rope, and I'm not focusing my blame on the pilot.

I do know that secrecy breeds evil, national governments are breeding grounds for evil, and that judicious transparency can be part of the solution. I don't support everything leaked on wikileaks, nor do I agree with the direction that blame is always caste in response.

no photo
Sun 12/05/10 07:47 PM

Either way,
for revealing the traitor.
We should thank Assange.


Interesting perspective, Fanta.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 12/05/10 07:51 PM


Either way,
for revealing the traitor.
We should thank Assange.


Interesting perspective, Fanta.


Did you hear how that soldier got the info?

no photo
Sun 12/05/10 08:10 PM



Either way,
for revealing the traitor.
We should thank Assange.


Interesting perspective, Fanta.


Did you hear how that soldier got the info?


Was he taking a leak?

Fanta46's photo
Sun 12/05/10 08:15 PM
I think he brought in a music disc and put it in the computer. Then proceeded to act the clown by sing and dancing for everyone. All the while erasing the music and copying the reports.