100% FREE ONLINE DATING
sponsored links
Previous
| Topic: Do you think that.... | |
|---|---|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father?  What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on.  any way they can. Yes, I said it!!!  I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... Not. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... Not. Sweet rebutal. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... Not. Sweet rebutal. Your responses werent' true what else is there to say? 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! How? All she said is straights are born straight just as gays are born gay. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... Not. Sweet rebutal. Your responses werent' true what else is there to say? You could have dealt with your conflicting statements. One says gays are born that way, another stating they are not. Or the fact that you call incest "sick" and homosexuality "natural" while both meet your criteria of happening in nature. And yes, hypocritical judgement is unjust... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Quoting a book of no consequence adds nothing to this thread at all. It defends noone nor assists none of us in a greater understanding of this life. And spouting off your own personal feelings is of no consequence. Are you going to deny that incest is also a part of the natural world? Will you deny that incest is also practiced in breeding?  Only if you want mutation in breeding The incestuous beginning of the bible is sicker than any healthy homosexual relationship can be that is for sure. And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Nothing wrong with homosexuality unless you are religious, so I recommend the religious not be homosexual or let the religion go so they have no fear of hell for what they naturally are. A little religion is a good thing... now let's not get that twisted...Ok?  If you can justify homosexuals as congenital and therefore worthy of acceptance, then why are you being hypocritical in saying that a person who has incestuous tendancies is sick??????? What??? Are you saying that incestuous people aren't allowed to play the congenital card??? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
It's called confirmation bias when the meaning of words has already been predetermined by expectations.
Hiya dragoness! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... Not. Sweet rebutal. Your responses werent' true what else is there to say? You could have dealt with your conflicting statements. One says gays are born that way, another stating they are not. No, she said some people are not gay even if coming from a gay relationship because they aren't born that way. She never said gays are not born gay. There's no contradiction there. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! How? All she said is straights are born straight just as gays are born gay. Gays are not born gays. Being homosexual is the actual sexual intercourse between two of the same gender. Yes some people are born with more attraction to the same gender, but that is not homosexual. That is merely an attraction. It's the actions that follow those attractions that are homosexual, sinful. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pee Pee pandering.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! How? All she said is straights are born straight just as gays are born gay. Gays are not born gays. Being homosexual is the actual sexual intercourse between two of the same gender. Yes some people are born with more attraction to the same gender, but that is not homosexual. That is merely an attraction. It's the actions that follow those attractions that are homosexual, sinful. So you're gonna tell them they have deny what they feel and try to feel something they can't? What if they can't be attracted to the opposite sex the same as they can the same sex? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! Dragoness wrote: And yes homosexuals are born homosexuals. All you have to do is talk with them and you can see how they are born that way. Your statements are hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... Not. Sweet rebutal. Your responses werent' true what else is there to say? You could have dealt with your conflicting statements. One says gays are born that way, another stating they are not. No, she said some people are not gay even if coming from a gay relationship because they aren't born that way. She never said gays are not born gay. There's no contradiction there. Ahhh, then I may have read that one wrong. I'll abstain from that one then. You should read up on the studies done regarding homosexual parents though, there is living proof of their accuracy by members of these boards. The rest of my statements still stand, hypocritical, judgemental and unjust... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! How? All she said is straights are born straight just as gays are born gay. Gays are not born gays. Being homosexual is the actual sexual intercourse between two of the same gender. Yes some people are born with more attraction to the same gender, but that is not homosexual. That is merely an attraction. It's the actions that follow those attractions that are homosexual, sinful. So you're gonna tell them they have deny what they feel and try to feel something they can't? What if they can't be attracted to the opposite sex the same as they can the same sex? Say someone is born, and all they wish to eat is human flesh. Any other food doesn't satisfy them, they wish to eat humans. Should this be permitted? No difference, they are born that way remember? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Edited by
Dragoness
on
Mon 01/03/11 10:02 PM
|
|
Your responses werent' true what else is there to say? You could have dealt with your conflicting statements. One says gays are born that way, another stating they are not. Or the fact that you call incest "sick" and homosexuality "natural" while both meet your criteria of happening in nature. And yes, hypocritical judgement is unjust... Considering I didn't conflict one bit on anything I can't deal with your inability to read or comprehend??? I am not sure how you misunderstood what was written so I can't help you there. Incest like in the beginning of the bible is sick and not so common in nature. Homosexuality however is very common especially in the higher intelligent life forms. So no conflict and nothing wrong with my facts what can I say |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! How? All she said is straights are born straight just as gays are born gay. I am very curious as to what school you all learned these ideas. Surely, your parents (at least most of your parents) didn't raise you that way. It's just childish rebellion...gone wild! It's really scary that some that indulge so rebelliously are also parents. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
It's called confirmation bias when the meaning of words has already been predetermined by expectations. Hiya dragoness! Hey there!!  Great to see you!! I am still getting caught up in the same mess you see 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Pee Pee pandering.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Your responses werent' true what else is there to say? You could have dealt with your conflicting statements. One says gays are born that way, another stating they are not. Or the fact that you call incest "sick" and homosexuality "natural" while both meet your criteria of happening in nature. And yes, hypocritical judgement is unjust... Considering I didn't conflict one bit on anything I can't deal with your inability to read or comprehend??? I am not sure how you misunderstood what was written so I can't help you there. Incest like in the beginning of the bible is sick and not so common in nature. Homosexuality however is very common especially in the higher intelligent life forms. So no conflict and nothing wrong with my facts what can I say Don't worry about it dragon I already corrected him, upon which he owned up to his mistake. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Do you think that being Christian or Islamic (since they are so similar) makes a person overly obsessed with death/reward so that they cannot live life? Or even truly be themselves and genuine? (living life does not mean debauchery either) I feel that the doctrines are stifling to the person even if they don't realize it. Allowing/coercing them to conceal their real true selves behind a false shield of the religion. Not meaning that their true selves are evil as the religions teach. Example: A person who is a part of one of these religions is associated with a gay person. The two of them are very compatible and a great friendship could happen but the religious person cannot fully love and support the gay person in a healthy way due to misgivings taught by the church. (And "saving" or converting this person is not healthy no matter what you have been told" In this case the real person behind the shield would be a true friend and have a life long close relationship with another loving human. The religious shield cannot allow this person to be genuine because of the fear of hell taught by the church. Causing the religious person to be ungenuine in their relationships due to the doctrines of the church in this case causing fear. No we are not obsessed with anything. And sure a straight Christian could be friends with a homosexual. There's nothing wrong with that, they are just friends. The Christian wouldn't be embracing the sexual activities this homosexual does. They are just friends. We help homosexuals, we help murderers, we help priests, we help the hobo down the street. What label one wishes to give another doesn't make any difference. We love everyone just the same, there is not segregation or anything of such. Back to the subject, yeah it would be just fine for a Christian to be friends with a homosexual. We love all regardless of the activities they may choose to do. By love do you mean "showing them the error of their ways"? Or putting the fear of god into them? Like you do daily? How can a religious person even attend the gay pagan wedding to support their friend or sign papers showing support for the gay couple to adopt? How can the religious person spend every day with the gay person watching them love their partner and not say anything derogatory? Hypocrisy? I have a question for you Dragoness, Would you continue to be close friends with your gay friend if you discovered she was also enjoying a sexual relationship with her biological father? What would be the comparison with a natural relationship like homosexuality and a sickness like incest? You'd better believe that kind of logic is spreading. Many horses are waiting to come out of the gate. So many waiting for endorsement. At one time homosexuality was as much a sickness as incest...and now because so many have closed their eyes to the taboo of it... it is now labeled "natural". There are a lot of closet incestuous, beastial, and other participants who are waiting for the day when what they enjoy doing is acceptible as well. What kind of society are we allowing? Is this our children's inheritance? Again it sounds like the religious are the ones who should worry about some kind of retribution because the non religious have nothing to worry about. Natural love between homosexuals causes as much problem in the world as heterosexual love does. It is the same. Our children are inheriting a healthier view of human relationships. I think you may actually be convinced of your views. Children are suffering more from this twisted world view than anyone, the adults are just getting their groove on. any way they can. Yes, I said it!!! I agree and there has been countless studies done showing children are most happy and succeed more when there is a mother and father in a normal relationship. I find it hard to believe that children would think that anal sex between two men is healthy.I also find it hard to believe that children think it's healthy when they have two fathers or two mothers and they ask where babies come from. All types of sex that happen in homosexual relationships happen in heterosexual relationships too and it is healthy then also. As long as the couple show love and respect to each other and the child the child will be healthy and they are often not even gay since they are not born that way. You just cotradicted yourself!!! How? All she said is straights are born straight just as gays are born gay. Gays are not born gays. Being homosexual is the actual sexual intercourse between two of the same gender. Yes some people are born with more attraction to the same gender, but that is not homosexual. That is merely an attraction. It's the actions that follow those attractions that are homosexual, sinful. So you're gonna tell them they have deny what they feel and try to feel something they can't? What if they can't be attracted to the opposite sex the same as they can the same sex? Say someone is born, and all they wish to eat is human flesh. Any other food doesn't satisfy them, they wish to eat humans. Should this be permitted? No difference, they are born that way remember? I love these extreme statements, as if they have ANY base in fact at all. To compare that to this is totally illogical. |
|
|
|
|
