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Topic: Idiots
Gwendolyn2009's photo
Fri 02/04/11 08:44 AM
On top of that I resent being called a know it all becasue I clearly don't know everything. But the one thing I do know is I know enough to get by.


With all due respect, if you are called a "know-it-all," it isn't because of what you say, but how you say it.

Delivery is everything.

Having said that, I know how I often "come across" in these forums, but that is my choice to deliver "my" information in the manner than I choose.

I find it interesting that I am rarely attacked or harshly refuted by women on any forum, but certain men often take great offense at what and how I write. Believe it or not, I have been called a know-it-all in these very forums! I suppose I should not have an opinion or use my expertise to prove my points.

Whoops! There I go again, being a know-it-all by even suggesting that I am an expert in any area.

Mea Culpa.

By the way, most people know enough to "get by"--it is why so many humans are alive on the face of the earth.


Thorb's photo
Fri 02/04/11 11:37 AM
Actually I've noticed over the last 20 some odd years that I am working with smarter better educated and less trash talking fools than in the 70's and 60's.

I've noticed a loss of work ethics and general laziness and feeling of entitlement that looks idiotic or moronic or stupid but in reality is just what it is.... a laziness and lack of work ethics that happens when people feel entitled.

I have also noticed a lot of these people think others are idiots.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 02/04/11 11:44 AM

On top of that I resent being called a know it all becasue I clearly don't know everything. But the one thing I do know is I know enough to get by.


With all due respect, if you are called a "know-it-all," it isn't because of what you say, but how you say it.

Delivery is everything.

Having said that, I know how I often "come across" in these forums, but that is my choice to deliver "my" information in the manner than I choose.

I find it interesting that I am rarely attacked or harshly refuted by women on any forum, but certain men often take great offense at what and how I write. Believe it or not, I have been called a know-it-all in these very forums! I suppose I should not have an opinion or use my expertise to prove my points.

Whoops! There I go again, being a know-it-all by even suggesting that I am an expert in any area.

Mea Culpa.

By the way, most people know enough to "get by"--it is why so many humans are alive on the face of the earth.




Not that I have a dog in this hunt, but you do seem a little condescending in quite a few of your postings. It leads one to suspect that you aren't out to make friends in the forums.
A little courtesy would go a long way, should you wish your responses to appear otherwise.
Not to state the obvious, but this IS a social networking site. If proving your point is more important than making friends, I suppose you'll accomplish that goal, for what it's worth...

ForestDude's photo
Fri 02/04/11 11:52 AM
Edited by ForestDude on Fri 02/04/11 11:53 AM


With all due respect, if you are called a "know-it-all," it isn't because of what you say, but how you say it.

Delivery is everything.

Having said that, I know how I often "come across" in these forums, but that is my choice to deliver "my" information in the manner than I choose.

Whoops! There I go again, being a know-it-all by even suggesting that I am an expert in any area.

Mea Culpa.

By the way, most people know enough to "get by"--it is why so many humans are alive on the face of the earth.




Of course, using Latin will almost always get you labeled a know-it-all laugh

That said, people are where they are, not much to be done about it. Some people seem to believe that if you're well spoken and knowledgeable you obviously feel you're better than those around you and are probably elitist. Some people are just flat out intimidated by people more knowledgeable than them. Some days I think there's a quickly growing cult of ignorance ohwell

I try to stay away from words like "smarter", "dumber", etc, because there's no agreement on what they mean and no way to pin them down. Are we talking about creativity? Math skills? Ability with languages? Education level? Don't say IQ, that only really measures your ability to take IQ tests, which doesn't really help. Interesting things to think about, though.

Cheers.

no photo
Fri 02/04/11 12:34 PM

On top of that I resent being called a know it all becasue I clearly don't know everything. But the one thing I do know is I know enough to get by.


With all due respect, if you are called a "know-it-all," it isn't because of what you say, but how you say it.

Delivery is everything.

Having said that, I know how I often "come across" in these forums, but that is my choice to deliver "my" information in the manner than I choose.

I find it interesting that I am rarely attacked or harshly refuted by women on any forum, but certain men often take great offense at what and how I write. Believe it or not, I have been called a know-it-all in these very forums! I suppose I should not have an opinion or use my expertise to prove my points.

Whoops! There I go again, being a know-it-all by even suggesting that I am an expert in any area.

Mea Culpa.

By the way, most people know enough to "get by"--it is why so many humans are alive on the face of the earth.


Not trying to converse here intellectually, let me say I do agree with many statements you made..
and also with many that krupa made...
and as for type-o's..
and in illustrating one's attentions to them, as a fact of reference here, I find it amusing to read yours above.
In the word because,,,as your 'becasue' typed above...


Many people feel their need to GAURD themselves based on their own
identidy of who they feel might lower other's opinions of them,,as a whole...And many genders battle over that of who IS the Best?

I just feel many people work emotionally, way to much,,
and few just craddle themselves with their knowledge of being
fine within their own mind of sound judgements..

As you did state,,,no one can prove or disprove their IQ, on this site or any other...so as ch!!!T just happens in us ALL,,
we grow to appreciate THAT as to look-passed it...in us and them.

ME,,,,I just love to be this silly little man who makes a smile here and there,,,and who just can't seem to give out enough love to everyone...AND,,,,OMG,,,I am filled WITH MISTAKES,TYPE-O's and BAD SLANG WORDS,,,,,lol,,,oh,,,and these little dudes who lift frowns off many faces,,,,,:wink:
But I did enjoy reading all of this past post here..drinker
AND,,,,,find BOTH of you versed in many skills far beyond my abilities of intelligence or educations, but my aptitude to reason and to see your a very charming woman...a classy Lassie, at that!
I just always throw in my two cents worth,,,because I'm NUTS...lol

gummykiss's photo
Fri 02/04/11 12:54 PM
Nah, I like my coworkers.

My customers, that's a different story.


I'm killing them today though with super-d-duper-rot-your-teeth-sweet-as-hell kindness

winking

lmao

I feel sooo fake, but it's rather entertaining spock

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 02/04/11 01:27 PM


On top of that I resent being called a know it all becasue I clearly don't know everything. But the one thing I do know is I know enough to get by.


With all due respect, if you are called a "know-it-all," it isn't because of what you say, but how you say it.

Delivery is everything.

Having said that, I know how I often "come across" in these forums, but that is my choice to deliver "my" information in the manner than I choose.

I find it interesting that I am rarely attacked or harshly refuted by women on any forum, but certain men often take great offense at what and how I write. Believe it or not, I have been called a know-it-all in these very forums! I suppose I should not have an opinion or use my expertise to prove my points.

Whoops! There I go again, being a know-it-all by even suggesting that I am an expert in any area.

Mea Culpa.

By the way, most people know enough to "get by"--it is why so many humans are alive on the face of the earth.


Not trying to converse here intellectually, let me say I do agree with many statements you made..
and also with many that krupa made...
and as for type-o's..
and in illustrating one's attentions to them, as a fact of reference here, I find it amusing to read yours above.
In the word because,,,as your 'becasue' typed above...




That's not her typo. She was quoting someone.

Gwendolyn2009's photo
Fri 02/04/11 05:09 PM
Edited by Gwendolyn2009 on Fri 02/04/11 05:10 PM
Not trying to converse here intellectually, let me say I do agree with many statements you made..
and also with many that krupa made...
and as for type-o's..
and in illustrating one's attentions to them, as a fact of reference here, I find it amusing to read yours above.
In the word because,,,as your 'becasue' typed above...




That's not her typo. She was quoting someone.


Thank you for pointing that out before I saw the accusation!

I use Firefox and it has a built-in spell-check; if I have a typo, it would not be for a word such as "because," but a homophone or a legitimate word that spell-check would not catch, i.e. typing "it" instead of "is."

Anyone can make typos, but a post that is filled with them rather than having one or two indicates poor editing skills--especially for "because."

But more to the point is words used out of context or which are obviously misspelled because the writer did not realize that they were misspelled: these items are usually very easy to spot.

And even more to the point, words used out of context.

Some people have learning handicaps that affect their writing skills: dyslexia is one. However, people can use available tools to help lessen the problem: spell-check is one. I used to date a man who is dyslexic; he would type everything to be posted online in Word first, edit with spell and grammar-check, and then post.

Lazy people don't bother.

Gwendolyn2009's photo
Fri 02/04/11 05:29 PM
Not that I have a dog in this hunt, but you do seem a little condescending in quite a few of your postings. It leads one to suspect that you aren't out to make friends in the forums.
A little courtesy would go a long way, should you wish your responses to appear otherwise.
Not to state the obvious, but this IS a social networking site. If proving your point is more important than making friends, I suppose you'll accomplish that goal, for what it's worth...


I am not here form social networks! In fact, if it weren't for the forums, I wouldn't be here at all.

I am aware that I sound condescending to some people, but I find that my posts tend more to that level when I answer someone's post and he (as I said before, almost always a "he") takes offense at my refutation.

I know all about courtesy and decorum, and I give such when it is due.




Of course, using Latin will almost always get you labeled a know-it-all laugh

That said, people are where they are, not much to be done about it. Some people seem to believe that if you're well spoken and knowledgeable you obviously feel you're better than those around you and are probably elitist. Some people are just flat out intimidated by people more knowledgeable than them. Some days I think there's a quickly growing cult of ignorance ohwell

I try to stay away from words like "smarter", "dumber", etc, because there's no agreement on what they mean and no way to pin them down. Are we talking about creativity? Math skills? Ability with languages? Education level? Don't say IQ, that only really measures your ability to take IQ tests, which doesn't really help. Interesting things to think about, though.

Cheers.



Most IQ tests measure what you have learned, not raw intelligence. There are nine types of intelligences; a person can score high in one and go bust in another.

If it were simply a growing cult of ignorance, I would express some hope, but it the cult seems to be of self-indulgent ignorance wherein people don't seem to want to educate themselves.

I also think that sexism still has to do with how people are perceived. For instance, I take my laptop to McD's or Starbucks to grade when I am not getting anything done at home. Last week I was in McD's when a very casual acquaintance asked me a question about grammar. When I told him, he asked what qualified me to give an answer. I told him three degrees in English qualified me. He said that I shouldn't "brag" about my degrees.

At that point, a man sitting at another table said he had two degrees in languages. The first man complimented him on his degrees!

Go figure!

And what's worse, the first man is willing to put up with my lofty attitude (as he sees it) because he finds me attractive. I have seen this time and again: men will put up with a lot more from a woman whom they perceive as good-looking than they will a woman whom they see as fat and/or ugly.

I know--I have lived both sides.


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Fri 02/04/11 05:36 PM



markc48's photo
Fri 02/04/11 05:40 PM

Not that I have a dog in this hunt, but you do seem a little condescending in quite a few of your postings. It leads one to suspect that you aren't out to make friends in the forums.
A little courtesy would go a long way, should you wish your responses to appear otherwise.
Not to state the obvious, but this IS a social networking site. If proving your point is more important than making friends, I suppose you'll accomplish that goal, for what it's worth...


I am not here form social networks! In fact, if it weren't for the forums, I wouldn't be here at all.

I am aware that I sound condescending to some people, but I find that my posts tend more to that level when I answer someone's post and he (as I said before, almost always a "he") takes offense at my refutation.

I know all about courtesy and decorum, and I give such when it is due.




Of course, using Latin will almost always get you labeled a know-it-all laugh

That said, people are where they are, not much to be done about it. Some people seem to believe that if you're well spoken and knowledgeable you obviously feel you're better than those around you and are probably elitist. Some people are just flat out intimidated by people more knowledgeable than them. Some days I think there's a quickly growing cult of ignorance ohwell

I try to stay away from words like "smarter", "dumber", etc, because there's no agreement on what they mean and no way to pin them down. Are we talking about creativity? Math skills? Ability with languages? Education level? Don't say IQ, that only really measures your ability to take IQ tests, which doesn't really help. Interesting things to think about, though.

Cheers.



Most IQ tests measure what you have learned, not raw intelligence. There are nine types of intelligences; a person can score high in one and go bust in another.

If it were simply a growing cult of ignorance, I would express some hope, but it the cult seems to be of self-indulgent ignorance wherein people don't seem to want to educate themselves.

I also think that sexism still has to do with how people are perceived. For instance, I take my laptop to McD's or Starbucks to grade when I am not getting anything done at home. Last week I was in McD's when a very casual acquaintance asked me a question about grammar. When I told him, he asked what qualified me to give an answer. I told him three degrees in English qualified me. He said that I shouldn't "brag" about my degrees.

At that point, a man sitting at another table said he had two degrees in languages. The first man complimented him on his degrees!

Go figure!

And what's worse, the first man is willing to put up with my lofty attitude (as he sees it) because he finds me attractive. I have seen this time and again: men will put up with a lot more from a woman whom they perceive as good-looking than they will a woman whom they see as fat and/or ugly.

I know--I have lived both sides.


Go figure, What school taught you guys will put up with more from a good looking gal than an ugly one.

AllenAqua's photo
Fri 02/04/11 06:19 PM

Not trying to converse here intellectually, let me say I do agree with many statements you made..
and also with many that krupa made...
and as for type-o's..
and in illustrating one's attentions to them, as a fact of reference here, I find it amusing to read yours above.
In the word because,,,as your 'becasue' typed above...




That's not her typo. She was quoting someone.


Thank you for pointing that out before I saw the accusation!

I use Firefox and it has a built-in spell-check; if I have a typo, it would not be for a word such as "because," but a homophone or a legitimate word that spell-check would not catch, i.e. typing "it" instead of "is."

Anyone can make typos, but a post that is filled with them rather than having one or two indicates poor editing skills--especially for "because."

But more to the point is words used out of context or which are obviously misspelled because the writer did not realize that they were misspelled: these items are usually very easy to spot.

And even more to the point, words used out of context.

Some people have learning handicaps that affect their writing skills: dyslexia is one. However, people can use available tools to help lessen the problem: spell-check is one. I used to date a man who is dyslexic; he would type everything to be posted online in Word first, edit with spell and grammar-check, and then post.

Lazy people don't bother.


Well, since you insist on pointing out the writing errors of others, I might point of that your own writing skills are lacking in perfection. You frequently end your sentences with prepositions. You use semi colons where a simple period would be proper. You often don't capitalize the first word of a sentence and you use split infinitives.
This is all off topic but since you seem to feel that proving a point is more crucial than displaying common courtesy, I agree with you on the "mea culpa" sentiment.


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Fri 02/04/11 06:37 PM
There comes a time when a thread has went totally off topic to the point of no return. At times it is very clear that regardless of the opinions given there will never be a happy medium.

Therefore taking that into consideration I feel it is time this thread has reached that point and it is time to move on.


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