Topic: Idiots
Beachfarmer's photo
Mon 01/31/11 06:35 PM
*in Jack Handy voice*

Have you ever noticed how the word pretentious sounds pretentious?

Gwendolyn2009's photo
Mon 01/31/11 07:07 PM

Do you work with idiots? I work with alot of people who didn't even go to high school! The funny part is that they think that they're smart!!laugh rant devil :angry: surprisedfrownshocked


Do you mean my peers or the students whom we teach?

Beachfarmer's photo
Mon 01/31/11 07:16 PM


Do you work with idiots? I work with alot of people who didn't even go to high school! The funny part is that they think that they're smart!!laugh rant devil :angry: surprisedfrownshocked


Do you mean my peers or the students whom we teach?


laugh

Hahahaha....I hope there's a hopeful hope for both demographics!!!

bedlum1's photo
Mon 01/31/11 07:35 PM
I guess that would depend on ones personal concept of what is idiotic..

TwilightsTwin's photo
Mon 01/31/11 07:45 PM

rofl rofl
Had to "EDIT" to respell "flatulence"

frustrated Teaches me to "judge"!!!


rofl bwahahahahaha


laugh flowerforyou

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Mon 01/31/11 09:05 PM

One can be en educated idiot. An uneducated idiot. Also very bright but not educated. In other words having an education does not automatically mean you are not also an idiot!


maybe not but it at least shows that some higher level mental activity prompted them to try to improve their minds - tho that can be achieved informally as well

the greatest ignorance is thinking you have nothing left to learn, or that there is no need to learn- to wonder- to stretch your intellect - doesn't have to be in a formal school, but school is a very viable path to knowledge

I'm well educated but see my education as only a beginning. I've probably taught myself enough to have degrees in a couple of additional disciplines since I graduated from college...I learned how to learn, really really well in school

What discourages me is when people do not value both, the formal and the informal modalities

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Mon 01/31/11 09:09 PM


One can be en educated idiot. An uneducated idiot. Also very bright but not educated. In other words having an education does not automatically mean you are not also an idiot!


maybe not but it at least shows that some higher level mental activity prompted them to try to improve their minds - tho that can be achieved informally as well

the greatest ignorance is thinking you have nothing left to learn, or that there is no need to learn- to wonder- to stretch your intellect - doesn't have to be in a formal school, but school is a very viable path to knowledge

I'm well educated but see my education as only a beginning. I've probably taught myself enough to have degrees in a couple of additional disciplines since I graduated from college...I learned how to learn, really really well in school

What discourages me is when people do not value both, the formal and the informal modalities
Simply-----AMEN:heart:

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Mon 01/31/11 10:31 PM



One can be en educated idiot. An uneducated idiot. Also very bright but not educated. In other words having an education does not automatically mean you are not also an idiot!


maybe not but it at least shows that some higher level mental activity prompted them to try to improve their minds - tho that can be achieved informally as well

the greatest ignorance is thinking you have nothing left to learn, or that there is no need to learn- to wonder- to stretch your intellect - doesn't have to be in a formal school, but school is a very viable path to knowledge

I'm well educated but see my education as only a beginning. I've probably taught myself enough to have degrees in a couple of additional disciplines since I graduated from college...I learned how to learn, really really well in school

What discourages me is when people do not value both, the formal and the informal modalities
Simply-----AMEN:heart:


thank you and I wanted to clarify that I wasn't talking about anyone in particular when I said "you" - I meant that as a collective, plural "you" as in all of us - me tooflowerforyou

Gwendolyn2009's photo
Wed 02/02/11 03:34 PM
At the expense of sounding elitist, most of the people with whom I work (my colleagues, not my students) have Masters' Degrees or higher. The students aspire to have degrees.

The OP mentioned high school graduates, but in today's world, having a high school degree is not a sign of being educated.

It goes to show how everything is relative: the holder of a high school diploma is scornful of his peers who do not have such a degree.

In other work instances, a high school diploma won't get you in the door.




krupa's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:06 PM

At the expense of sounding elitist, most of the people with whom I work (my colleagues, not my students) have Masters' Degrees or higher. The students aspire to have degrees.

The OP mentioned high school graduates, but in today's world, having a high school degree is not a sign of being educated.

It goes to show how everything is relative: the holder of a high school diploma is scornful of his peers who do not have such a degree.

In other work instances, a high school diploma won't get you in the door.






Mostly true but that is not absolute.

When I did paleontology paintings for the Museums of Natural History (Denver/Vancouver/Mexico City) I was the only painter with absolutely zero training except for what I taught myself. ALL the other members of the painting crews had a minimum of a Masters or a Doctorate....Many were University Professors or Grad's. I happened to know the lead painter from family association and she recruited me purely on the merits I cultivated on my own. When I met the others and showed some of my work I was quickly established as Figure form designer. They easily acknowledged that my pencil work and Dinosaur designs were far more accurate and animate than thier own work (pretty flattering actually considering I was far younger than everyone else) . The trade off was I knew nothing of traditional painting techniques and they happily shared thier knowledges with me. Though I grew to detest the complete lack of imagination involved...I, to this day appreciate all the things they taught me. I could teach them nothing cause others had already taught them a way that seems to me to be completely unnatural.

Education is a good thing and indeed I have known some really smart idiots.

Education does not insure motivation nor does it instill ambition or work ethics....then again...neither does stupidity.

Don't get me wrong (THIS will sound egotistical...) I dig being one of the smartest self educated people that I know...and I am way smarter than I will bother to show here. But raw talent can trump education in some situations.

Gwendolyn2009's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:29 PM



Mostly true but that is not absolute.

When I did paleontology paintings for the Museums of Natural History (Denver/Vancouver/Mexico City) I was the only painter with absolutely zero training except for what I taught myself. ALL the other members of the painting crews had a minimum of a Masters or a Doctorate....Many were University Professors or Grad's. I happened to know the lead painter from family association and she recruited me purely on the merits I cultivated on my own. When I met the others and showed some of my work I was quickly established as Figure form designer. They easily acknowledged that my pencil work and Dinosaur designs were far more accurate and animate than thier own work (pretty flattering actually considering I was far younger than everyone else) . The trade off was I knew nothing of traditional painting techniques and they happily shared thier knowledges with me. Though I grew to detest the complete lack of imagination involved...I, to this day appreciate all the things they taught me. I could teach them nothing cause others had already taught them a way that seems to me to be completely unnatural.

Education is a good thing and indeed I have known some really smart idiots.

Education does not insure motivation nor does it instill ambition or work ethics....then again...neither does stupidity.

Don't get me wrong (THIS will sound egotistical...) I dig being one of the smartest self educated people that I know...and I am way smarter than I will bother to show here. But raw talent can trump education in some situations.


Of course: exceptions are a rule.

However, I think the "educated idiot" is a truism that uneducated people tell themselves in order to rationalize feelings of inadequacy.

In my many years of being involved with academia, both as a student and an instructor, I have met few "educated idiots." And most of those where not idiots from a cognitive viewpoint, but more from a social aspect.


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Wed 02/02/11 04:37 PM

krupa's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:41 PM
When they have multiple doctorates and 57 cats and thier house smells like cat sh!*..they are disgusting highly educated idiots.

(referring specifically to a member of the crew who found the Titanic)

By no means does education grant superiority.

"However, I think the "educated idiot" is a truism that uneducated people tell themselves in order to rationalize feelings of inadequacy."

All good in theory....unless I happen to be smarter than you. I have been smarter than everyone else I have met.....

I may not be field specific...but, I am way too smart to limit myself to a field.


newarkjw's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:41 PM
Hello, my name is Jeff and I am an idiot. "Hi Jeff!".. Hi everybody........smokin

Lpdon's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:43 PM

seamac's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:49 PM
You guys are all to smart for me.

krupa's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:49 PM

Hello, my name is Jeff and I am an idiot. "Hi Jeff!".. Hi everybody........smokin


No dude...you aint stupid...you're stoned.

seamac's photo
Wed 02/02/11 04:51 PM

Hello, my name is Jeff and I am an idiot. "Hi Jeff!".. Hi everybody........smokin



Let's hook up and live happily, blissfully. stupidly ever after. flowers

Tazz42's photo
Wed 02/02/11 05:02 PM

Would you care to discuss how to dampen the effects of air molecules that just so happen to pass through the shock wave caused by atmospheric re-entry and are excited to higher vibrational and chemical energy modes?

LMFAO!!!!! Sorry, carry on!indifferent

Totage's photo
Wed 02/02/11 05:09 PM

You guys are all to smart for me.




:tongue:

I think you're smart. flowers