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Topic: slut walk
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Mon 04/25/11 08:03 AM
Showing some skin and raising some eyebrows, more than 100 scantily clad protestors gathered in dowtown Dallas Saturday, chanting, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, we understand that no means no."

"I want to end victim blaming," said protestor Britt Shulte. "This is still a really prevailing concept and idea in our society that our apparel dictates the kind of treatment we receive and it dictates the respect that we receive."

The group of fire-up North Texans called the event a "Slut Walk."

Elizabeth Webb organized the local event.

"I know, definitely, it is a controversial name," Webb said, "but we`re trying to reclaim that word and take the power away from that word. And, we want to specify that women dressing like sluts is not how people get raped."

Toronto held the first Slut Walk after a police cheif there told a group of female students, "In order to avoid being raped, women should stop dressing like sluts."

McKinney resident Makita Johnson said she was outraged by the victim blaming.

"What made me want to do the walk," Johnson said, "is it's not right that we're teaching don't get raped when we should be teaching don't rape. So, I wanted to get in on the movement."

And, she was in good company.

Tammi Brittain said, "This is my daily dress and it's considered slutty for most. Hopefully it will just let people know that are out there, they're not alone. It's not their fault. They have support."

The goal of the walk is to end victim blaming once and for all, according to participant Stephanie McMurry.

"You know, it doesn`t matter how old you are or what you`re wearing or where you`re at or how much you had to drink," McMurry said. "It doesn`t matter what happens, it`s never the victims fault. Ever."

Copyright © 2011, KDAF-TV

http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-slut-walk-hits-dallas-streets-story,0,2823196.story

video here


why is there no good looking women there?

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Mon 04/25/11 08:09 AM
Good for them. No absolutely means no.

bl4cks4bb4th's photo
Mon 04/25/11 08:45 AM
Edited by bl4cks4bb4th on Mon 04/25/11 08:45 AM
I think that's a terrible way to address the problem. If they really want to do something about rape, they should get some sort of personal protection (CCW). But this seems to me like it was more about feminism than anything.

no photo
Mon 04/25/11 08:46 AM
What happens if the rapist gets a hold of their gun? Is that going to help them then?

Why do you feel it's about male bashing? If you understand that no means no, then I'm sure you're not who they're talking about.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/25/11 09:03 AM

Showing some skin and raising some eyebrows, more than 100 scantily clad protestors gathered in dowtown Dallas Saturday, chanting, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, we understand that no means no."

"I want to end victim blaming," said protestor Britt Shulte. "This is still a really prevailing concept and idea in our society that our apparel dictates the kind of treatment we receive and it dictates the respect that we receive."

The group of fire-up North Texans called the event a "Slut Walk."

Elizabeth Webb organized the local event.

"I know, definitely, it is a controversial name," Webb said, "but we`re trying to reclaim that word and take the power away from that word. And, we want to specify that women dressing like sluts is not how people get raped."

Toronto held the first Slut Walk after a police cheif there told a group of female students, "In order to avoid being raped, women should stop dressing like sluts."

McKinney resident Makita Johnson said she was outraged by the victim blaming.

"What made me want to do the walk," Johnson said, "is it's not right that we're teaching don't get raped when we should be teaching don't rape. So, I wanted to get in on the movement."

And, she was in good company.

Tammi Brittain said, "This is my daily dress and it's considered slutty for most. Hopefully it will just let people know that are out there, they're not alone. It's not their fault. They have support."

The goal of the walk is to end victim blaming once and for all, according to participant Stephanie McMurry.

"You know, it doesn`t matter how old you are or what you`re wearing or where you`re at or how much you had to drink," McMurry said. "It doesn`t matter what happens, it`s never the victims fault. Ever."

Copyright © 2011, KDAF-TV

http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-slut-walk-hits-dallas-streets-story,0,2823196.story

video here


why is there no good looking women there?



its really an interesting article


as a victim myself, I probably have an interesting opinion about it

thre are a couple different types of rape(date rape, gang rape,,et,,) that stem from different situations


and while rape stems, in many cases( I think date rape is a different scenario which I wont get into) from an assailants obsession with power or hatred or whatever, there are certainly circumstances which make us MORE likely to attract that type of person and we do need to be vigilante in adapting to our environment and circumstances so as not to INCREASE that likelihood

yes, if you wear the 'slut' costume, people will assume you are a slut,,,,,it still would not give them the right to rape you, but it may indeed draw attention to those who believe you 'want it' and are willing to force it upon you


being a grown up means kind of balancing what should be with what is and making decisons accordingly

Noone should or has the right to rob me, but certainly, if I walk down in the slums waving around wads of cash in front of people, I should do so understanding how increased my chances are of getting robbed(in other words, its just not wise for me to do so and I will be drawing the attention of the wrong type of person in that situation)

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Mon 04/25/11 09:05 AM
Keep in mind though, women need to watch their actions sometimes. Granted men have no excuse and blaming a victim for a crime is wrong BUT, never ever dangle meat in front of a hungry dog and not expect it to snap at it.

Now women who intentionally act sexy, dress provocatively, and toss mixed signals around get what they deserve. No I am not being a bastard here. I am being the devil's advocate. When a woman is dressing to show off I call that advertising.

Some women unfairly get called sluts when they are not but others act like it, pretenda-sluts like I call those women. That leads to the worst kind of women there is out there, the bone cutter. That is a woman who will get her cloths off, get a man on top of her and just as he is about to head for home base she suddenly changes her mind. I hate bone cutters and tail draggers which are women who dress provocatively and hate men.

Sex is a messed up game and the rules of conduct are ambiguous. My advice to a woman not intending to have sex, don't put yourself in a position to get taken if you don't want to be taken. That unto itself is a whole chapter of the rules of sexual conduct.

Now back to the case at hand, if a woman gets into a bed with a man in her underwear she is asking to get sex forced on her. it might not be right BUT we are programmed to reproduce and that programming can make sane rational people turn into beasts! There is a huge difference if a man invades a woman's house and rapes her vs. a woman who puts herself in a compromising situation intentionally. And I also see a huge difference in what people think date rape is vs. what date rape really is. Again real date rape is when she is not allowing herself to be put into a compromising situation and she is forcefully taken against her will.

Simple rule of thumb, you cannot pull the trigger of a gun and take it back after the fact you shot it. If women are so interested in avoiding questionable situations follow these old grandpa rules, both feet on the floor, cloths on, legs shut. And for added measure a minimum of 12 inches air space between both parties at all times. Strip down and get alone with a guy all bets are off at that point.

I am sick and tired of women thinking that we men are all rapists or that we are not sympathetic to the plight of women. I am just sick and tired of women who put themselves in situations and want us to feel sorry for them. I have ran across a bone cutter. I have ran across tail draggers. Both are a waste of my time. Both taught me that women can play some fuqued up and cold games on men. Some men are nothing more than beasts. But not all of us are. Likewise not all women are honorable.

And the legal practice of attacking the victim of any crime is wrong and any attorney trying that should be disbarred! But likewise anyone claiming to be a victim and attempting to victimize someone unjustly also sucks! Women need to reeducate themselves about the rules of dating conduct rather than put it all off on us men! Prevention is better than clean up!

navygirl's photo
Mon 04/25/11 09:05 AM

I think that's a terrible way to address the problem. If they really want to do something about rape, they should get some sort of personal protection (CCW). But this seems to me like it was more about feminism than anything.


No, it wasn't about feminism; it was about rape. They were just making a point of no matter what they wear; it shouldn't be an invitation for rape. As for carrying weapons; here in Canada it is illegal to carry something such as a gun or knife. Myself; I have always advocated women taking self defense courses so they can get away from their attacker.

no photo
Mon 04/25/11 09:23 AM

Keep in mind though, women need to watch their actions sometimes. Granted men have no excuse and blaming a victim for a crime is wrong BUT, never ever dangle meat in front of a hungry dog and not expect it to snap at it.

Now women who intentionally act sexy, dress provocatively, and toss mixed signals around get what they deserve. No I am not being a bastard here. I am being the devil's advocate. When a woman is dressing to show off I call that advertising.

Some women unfairly get called sluts when they are not but others act like it, pretenda-sluts like I call those women. That leads to the worst kind of women there is out there, the bone cutter. That is a woman who will get her cloths off, get a man on top of her and just as he is about to head for home base she suddenly changes her mind. I hate bone cutters and tail draggers which are women who dress provocatively and hate men.

Sex is a messed up game and the rules of conduct are ambiguous. My advice to a woman not intending to have sex, don't put yourself in a position to get taken if you don't want to be taken. That unto itself is a whole chapter of the rules of sexual conduct.

Now back to the case at hand, if a woman gets into a bed with a man in her underwear she is asking to get sex forced on her. it might not be right BUT we are programmed to reproduce and that programming can make sane rational people turn into beasts! There is a huge difference if a man invades a woman's house and rapes her vs. a woman who puts herself in a compromising situation intentionally. And I also see a huge difference in what people think date rape is vs. what date rape really is. Again real date rape is when she is not allowing herself to be put into a compromising situation and she is forcefully taken against her will.

Simple rule of thumb, you cannot pull the trigger of a gun and take it back after the fact you shot it. If women are so interested in avoiding questionable situations follow these old grandpa rules, both feet on the floor, cloths on, legs shut. And for added measure a minimum of 12 inches air space between both parties at all times. Strip down and get alone with a guy all bets are off at that point.

I am sick and tired of women thinking that we men are all rapists or that we are not sympathetic to the plight of women. I am just sick and tired of women who put themselves in situations and want us to feel sorry for them. I have ran across a bone cutter. I have ran across tail draggers. Both are a waste of my time. Both taught me that women can play some fuqued up and cold games on men. Some men are nothing more than beasts. But not all of us are. Likewise not all women are honorable.

And the legal practice of attacking the victim of any crime is wrong and any attorney trying that should be disbarred! But likewise anyone claiming to be a victim and attempting to victimize someone unjustly also sucks! Women need to reeducate themselves about the rules of dating conduct rather than put it all off on us men! Prevention is better than clean up!


So, a woman wearing a low cut shirt or a short skirt is asking for it? If a man can't control himself and rapes her, she got what she deserved?

And who was saying all men are rapists?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/25/11 09:29 AM
bottom line is that men should have some self control, no matter what a woman is wearing...i can see what andy is saying, but it really shouldn't matter, men are not dogs, they can think for themselves and can have self control

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Mon 04/25/11 09:33 AM

bottom line is that men should have some self control, no matter what a woman is wearing...i can see what andy is saying, but it really shouldn't matter, men are not dogs, they can think for themselves and can have self control



They SHOULD, and whenever possible people SHOULD(regardless of gender) walk away from a fight,,,however, sometimes human instinct does understandably kick in and I think perhaps Andy feels people shouldnt be labeled and demonized when that happens


If someone walks up and punches me, I should walk away, but should I be demonized if I do punch them back? Society says if I am a man I should but if I am a woman,,,not so much,,thats a double standard that I think is bogus. The same with the 'rapist' sap who was mislead with actions and brought to the point and then accused after the fact of not stopping nature at the sound of one word,,,,

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Mon 04/25/11 09:40 AM

The same with the 'rapist' sap who was mislead with actions and brought to the point and then accused after the fact of not stopping nature at the sound of one word,,,,


What's not to understand about the word no?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/25/11 09:40 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Mon 04/25/11 09:40 AM


bottom line is that men should have some self control, no matter what a woman is wearing...i can see what andy is saying, but it really shouldn't matter, men are not dogs, they can think for themselves and can have self control



They SHOULD, and whenever possible people SHOULD(regardless of gender) walk away from a fight,,,however, sometimes human instinct does understandably kick in and I think perhaps Andy feels people shouldnt be labeled and demonized when that happens


If someone walks up and punches me, I should walk away, but should I be demonized if I do punch them back? Society says if I am a man I should but if I am a woman,,,not so much,,thats a double standard that I think is bogus. The same with the 'rapist' sap who was mislead with actions and brought to the point and then accused after the fact of not stopping nature at the sound of one word,,,,


a quick knee to the nads, or kick him in the shins... a kick to the side of the knee will put just about anyone down...

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Mon 04/25/11 09:42 AM


The same with the 'rapist' sap who was mislead with actions and brought to the point and then accused after the fact of not stopping nature at the sound of one word,,,,


What's not to understand about the word no?



plenty, if its said with the mouth but not manifested with the body

like saying I love you while punching someone,,usually the instinct we have is to believe the body language over the words,,

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Mon 04/25/11 09:48 AM



The same with the 'rapist' sap who was mislead with actions and brought to the point and then accused after the fact of not stopping nature at the sound of one word,,,,


What's not to understand about the word no?



plenty, if its said with the mouth but not manifested with the body

like saying I love you while punching someone,,usually the instinct we have is to believe the body language over the words,,


A good rule of thumb is to stop at the word no. If they're confused, they should talk about what's going on, rather than just ignoring the word no.

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Mon 04/25/11 09:51 AM




The same with the 'rapist' sap who was mislead with actions and brought to the point and then accused after the fact of not stopping nature at the sound of one word,,,,


What's not to understand about the word no?



plenty, if its said with the mouth but not manifested with the body

like saying I love you while punching someone,,usually the instinct we have is to believe the body language over the words,,


A good rule of thumb is to stop at the word no. If they're confused, they should talk about what's going on, rather than just ignoring the word no.



it is a good rule of thumb, I agree

I also agree with Andy that a good rule of thumb is not to lead on a man to the point of 'almost' having sex,,,,

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Mon 04/25/11 09:56 AM
If a guy thinks he's going to get sex and the girl changes her mind, oh well. That still doesn't mean no means anything other than no.

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Mon 04/25/11 10:41 AM
in a perfect world, but in this one no does not mean no anymore than I love you always means I love you


people speak words as resources to an end far too often
and there are those who say 'no' as a part of a game of tease or foreplay,,

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Mon 04/25/11 10:50 AM

in a perfect world, but in this one no does not mean no anymore than I love you always means I love you


people speak words as resources to an end far too often
and there are those who say 'no' as a part of a game of tease or foreplay,,


It's not going to mean no if there are people out there telling them it doesn't, like you are now.

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Mon 04/25/11 11:22 AM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Mon 04/25/11 11:22 AM

If a woman is sober and knows she is going to a place where alcohol will flow and guys will be drunk and dresses in a way that shows everything but nipples and kooch is a stupid woman, and is as much to blame for the crime as the guy is.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/25/11 11:32 AM


in a perfect world, but in this one no does not mean no anymore than I love you always means I love you


people speak words as resources to an end far too often
and there are those who say 'no' as a part of a game of tease or foreplay,,


It's not going to mean no if there are people out there telling them it doesn't, like you are now.




Im not telling them that, anymore than I am telling anyone its ok to rob, Im only advocating for vigilance in our OWN actions to avoid attracting the wrong situations and people,,,

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