Topic: Lack of Confidence/Low Self Esteem
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Wed 07/06/11 12:26 PM
I know a few atustic people and they're the sweetest people I've ever met. I really hope no one here is insulting them, they're just as human as you or I and I'll apprecaite it if everyone treated as such.

Don't be a douche, don't insult them.

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Wed 07/06/11 12:54 PM
What does autism have to do with it?

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Wed 07/06/11 01:11 PM

I've noticed lately that a lot of people around here seem to lack confidence and have low self esteem. There's a lot of "woe is me I don't have a life" kind of stuff going on. Why? I don't get why people are just sitting around, complaining that they don't have a life, or don't like their life. Why not change it?

I don't know about others, but this is a huge turn off for me.


Usually they do have low self exteem but along with that there seems to be so many who believe it is others jobs to make them happy.

They will never be happy because of this.

So I guess it will never end.

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Wed 07/06/11 01:22 PM
There are many reasons people have low self esteem. And they are usually real.

I find a lot of people who boast having high self esteem are just comparing themselves to those who have low self esteem (get the math). When you talk to people with 'apparently' high self esteem, you find they are riding the coat tails of more advance theories and ideas on personal development. And, less evolved behaviors are imposed as evolved and sophisticated.

AND A LOT of people use self confidence as a pretext for aggressivity and contempt.

Human beings can evolve endlessly. Or, they can choose to simply follow the dominant discourse.

Can you tell I have the attitude of a guy with low self esteem? Do I have low self esteem? slaphead

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Wed 07/06/11 01:37 PM
Edited by actionlynx on Wed 07/06/11 01:38 PM
@Alterette:
I know a couple who both have Aspberger's, and both work in publishing. One of them actually graduated from Yale University, and is classical pianist who does recitals as a hobby. He would have pursued it as a career except that there isn't much money in it except at the higher levels.

@Axl:
Damn, your single again??? Why do ya have to be so far away? I still want to try some Filipino....um, food that is. :wink:

@Singmesweet:
I want to dub you "The Inquisitor". Each of your questions is like a test to see if the other can grasp the hidden meaning. Your questions don't bother me anymore because the more threads we are in, the better sense I get of who you are. You are like our conscience, causing us to question the truths within ourselves, and the words that we speak.

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Wed 07/06/11 02:00 PM



we are lucky to live in very large towns where there are plenty of people to choose from. i would imagine finding the right mate in such a small town would be increasingly hard as the years go by and everyone knows each other..


Try living in a village laugh

Nobody here. I live near a small settlement town, which I'm not very fond off. I live 40 miles away, from any city.

I'm doomed, but I don't care laugh

If I lived in a city, I'd be a different person :)


Hey maybe you should just move 40 miles....drinker drinker


That's a brilliant idea! ^_^ drinker drinker

Not only would it benefit me, but, If I had any kids one day, it would be much better for them. I may have lived a quiet life, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone else! ^_^

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Wed 07/06/11 03:00 PM
I have low self esteem and lack self confidence. I am shy and introverted. I pee a little if I get suprized or when anyone touches me. I have a hard time talking to peaple and spit when I speak. I also....

Oh.....wait a minute...

that ain't me.

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Wed 07/06/11 03:07 PM

I have low self esteem and lack self confidence. I am shy and introverted. I pee a little if I get suprized or when anyone touches me. I have a hard time talking to peaple and spit when I speak. I also....

Oh.....wait a minute...

that ain't me.


You almost describe me, but I get gassy when I'm nervous. I also get gassy when I'm bored.

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Wed 07/06/11 04:06 PM
Whaddya mean? Gas gives me confidence! Why, every time I let 'er rip I just KNOW I can clear the whole room.

Who's gonna feed me some beans and onions so I can show ya?smokin

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Wed 07/06/11 04:09 PM

@Alterette:
I know a couple who both have Aspberger's, and both work in publishing. One of them actually graduated from Yale University, and is classical pianist who does recitals as a hobby. He would have pursued it as a career except that there isn't much money in it except at the higher levels.

@Axl:
Damn, your single again??? Why do ya have to be so far away? I still want to try some Filipino....um, food that is. :wink:

@Singmesweet:
I want to dub you "The Inquisitor". Each of your questions is like a test to see if the other can grasp the hidden meaning. Your questions don't bother me anymore because the more threads we are in, the better sense I get of who you are. You are like our conscience, causing us to question the truths within ourselves, and the words that we speak.


I'm not looking for hidden meaning. Just interested in hearing what people have to say.

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Wed 07/06/11 04:10 PM

I know a few atustic people and they're the sweetest people I've ever met. I really hope no one here is insulting them, they're just as human as you or I and I'll apprecaite it if everyone treated as such.

Don't be a douche, don't insult them.


huh

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Wed 07/06/11 04:19 PM

I'm not looking for hidden meaning. Just interested in hearing what people have to say.


I didn't mean you. I mean there is usually a point to your questions. They are posed to either gauge someone or to make them think. I didn't get it at first, but then I learned I was just reading the intention wrong.

It was meant as a good thing.:wink:

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Wed 07/06/11 05:37 PM


I'm not looking for hidden meaning. Just interested in hearing what people have to say.


I didn't mean you. I mean there is usually a point to your questions. They are posed to either gauge someone or to make them think. I didn't get it at first, but then I learned I was just reading the intention wrong.

It was meant as a good thing.:wink:


What did you think the intention was?

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Wed 07/06/11 07:05 PM
Edited by Alterette on Wed 07/06/11 07:07 PM

I know a few atustic people and they're the sweetest people I've ever met. I really hope no one here is insulting them, they're just as human as you or I and I'll apprecaite it if everyone treated as such.

Don't be a douche, don't insult them.


No one's insulted anyone with autism as far as I've seen, Sweet. I was just telling Actionlynx that I understand his situation, because our conditions have a lot of the same symptoms.

I used to be very self-conscious and had low self-esteem because I knew I was "different". Once I was diagnosed and realized that I was born with a lot of those differences, I learned to embrace them and discover what I like about myself. Sometimes just knowing does wonders.

I'm still "different" and I always will be. But I learned to love myself and became happier and more confident.

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Wed 07/06/11 08:23 PM

What did you think the intention was?


Before I got to know your personality better, sometimes I thought you were simply casting dispersion on people. It's just how blunt and succinct your comments and questions were. I can't even remember how long ago that was. Now I know better.

In fact, I believe I defended you once when someone took it the wrong way. My memory is a bit fuzzy....I'd have to look it up to be sure.

Oh yeah....that's another problem with ADD. Because you get distracted easily, you find you forget things much, much quicker than others. I can burn it into my brain when you tell me something, but if I catch movement from the corner of my eye, I can't ignore it. I'll impulsively look, forgetting what I just memorized in the process.

I also find noise of any sort, in any volume, exceedingly distracting. I can't filter it out. It will annoy me so much that I can't think, then I get frustrated because I can't focus. So many times I've been typing something, and completely lost my train of thought just because someone walked through the downstairs door or opened a cupboard in the kitchen.

Btw, Alterette...

Seakolony, who comes on here from time to time, has an autistic child. I can't remember if it's the Aspberger's type or not. I haven't had the chance to talk with her much lately. I'm sure her last email to me was auto-deleted by now.

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Wed 07/06/11 09:53 PM




we are lucky to live in very large towns where there are plenty of people to choose from. i would imagine finding the right mate in such a small town would be increasingly hard as the years go by and everyone knows each other..


Try living in a village laugh

Nobody here. I live near a small settlement town, which I'm not very fond off. I live 40 miles away, from any city.

I'm doomed, but I don't care laugh

If I lived in a city, I'd be a different person :)


Hey maybe you should just move 40 miles....drinker drinker


That's a brilliant idea! ^_^ drinker drinker

Not only would it benefit me, but, If I had any kids one day, it would be much better for them. I may have lived a quiet life, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone else! ^_^


LOL, I am a big city girl, longing for a country, but with my 3 kids, I feel the same way. I have always wanted to move to like Montana or new jersey or something, but i figure wait until the kids are out of high school....i wouldnt want them growing up too isolated and bored and doing a bunch of meth and getting into trouble cuz there was nothing to do.....

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Wed 07/06/11 09:55 PM
I personally dont have a problem with whiners and complainers. Some people are just lonely and they need to vent too. People need to express themselves in many ways----and sometimes they have no-one to listen....everyone gets down sometimes....sad sad

Im very optimistic, but some days-perhaps even sometimes for a week straight i will do nothing but gripe and complain depending on how my week is going...thats just life. Ups and Downs.

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Wed 07/06/11 09:57 PM



oh yes I agree lack of self confidence / lack of self esteem do go hand in hand.
What I meant was they don't necessarily mean you are a whiner.
Am I making sense?
My last sentence simply means I think some people have more confidence than they think they do.
Am I still confusing you ? Cause in my head I know what I meanlaugh laugh


Yes, that made more sense. And no, I don't think everyone who lacks confidence or has low self esteem is a whiner. I was just talking about the ones I've seen whining.

Goodlaugh
But I agree with you about the whining, it is a huge turn off.


I actually enjoy listening to others whine. TREMENDOUSLY.

You see, some time ago I learned that if I don't go and study at college for four years the art and science of loving the whining of others, then life would become hard, a thankless place to be in, a real chore, bore and snore.

Embrace whining, and learn how to enjoy life.

That's the ticket. My ticket, anyway, to climb the stairway to heaven.

One's ticket to heaven is another's ticket on the railway to hell.

wux's photo
Wed 07/06/11 10:04 PM


I have low self esteem and lack self confidence. I am shy and introverted. I pee a little if I get suprized or when anyone touches me. I have a hard time talking to peaple and spit when I speak. I also....

Oh.....wait a minute...

that ain't me.


You almost describe me, but I get gassy when I'm nervous. I also get gassy when I'm bored.


Add a little stutter, sprinkle it generally with drooling, and top it off with a bit of Turret's syndrome, but don't make it too piquante -- and you got me. If it limps, lisps and fists (his girlfriend) too, in addition to all of the above, then it's my friend Karl Goldmark.

P.s. Fisting is not an act of violence. It's a form of sexual fetish. Between consenting adults. There is nothing about it that is against the law or against the accepted norm of morals, unless you are Christian, of course, in which case you are doomed, because God is impossible to please or else dead easy to please, if you read the bible, but you don't know which, because He swears both ways are true like the scriptures, as per the gospels.

wux's photo
Wed 07/06/11 10:10 PM





we are lucky to live in very large towns where there are plenty of people to choose from. i would imagine finding the right mate in such a small town would be increasingly hard as the years go by and everyone knows each other..


Try living in a village laugh

Nobody here. I live near a small settlement town, which I'm not very fond off. I live 40 miles away, from any city.

I'm doomed, but I don't care laugh

If I lived in a city, I'd be a different person :)


Hey maybe you should just move 40 miles....drinker drinker


That's a brilliant idea! ^_^ drinker drinker

Not only would it benefit me, but, If I had any kids one day, it would be much better for them. I may have lived a quiet life, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone else! ^_^


LOL, I am a big city girl, longing for a country, but with my 3 kids, I feel the same way. I have always wanted to move to like Montana or new jersey or something, but i figure wait until the kids are out of high school....i wouldnt want them growing up too isolated and bored and doing a bunch of meth and getting into trouble cuz there was nothing to do.....


I long for the solitude and serenity of complete isolation that living in a tiny Manhattan place provides to one. The knowledge that you can't be more alone in the entire world than in a noisy, smelly, runny and dilapidated and overcrowded tenement in NYC. Ah... I go there sometimes from my forest ranger job in Alaska... turn on the useless air conditioning that provides nothing but rattling noises, in the suffocating humidity and heat, the perfume mix of car exhausts, burnt hamburgers and coocooroocha sprays, the erotic blinking of faulty streetights.... and I can just feel myself unwind, man.