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Topic: Harry potter and the Deathly Hollows
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Wed 07/11/07 05:19 PM
If you have already read the book, please do not reveal anythign in here!!!!!!


So, who thinks they know anything about the final book? Who's gonna be the two main character deaths?

Is Snape really working for VOldemort, or is it all an elaborate plan to keep him safe and undercover?

Will Ron and Hermione get married? Or at least admit their feelings for each other?

What about Harry and Ginny?

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Wed 07/11/07 05:30 PM
I think Snape is gonna be one of the mian charetar deaths in deathly hollows.
I also think Snape is truly working for the side of good. now, hear me out on this! lol......

In the beginning of the book Rowling introduces us to the unbreakable vow. You know the one, the one that states you die instantly if you break it? I think Snape made this vow to Dumbledore, how else could Dunbledore believe without a doubt that Snape is truly on the side of good now.
And when Snape killed dumbledore near the end of the book, if you remember rightly, dumbledore looked him in the eyes and pleaded with him, but did not say what he was pleading for. What if he was pleading with Snape to keep his vow and to continue to be a double agnet? Snape would have been forced to kill dumbledore in order to keep his cover, and thus remain alive.

I thjink Ron and hermione are finally going to announce their true feelings, but I dont thin we will see them wed.

And I also think Harry is gonna find that he is stuck with Ginny forever and ever amen, lol.

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Wed 07/11/07 05:50 PM
How can anyone have read the book its not out yet

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Wed 07/11/07 05:56 PM
it was released in the uk, or england somewhere over there a couple weeks ago.

daniel48706's photo
Wed 07/11/07 05:56 PM
it was released in the uk, or england somewhere over there a couple weeks ago.

Alada's photo
Thu 07/12/07 07:16 AM
The Deathly Hollows has not been released in the UK nor any part of the world as of yet... It will be released next week my dear.

that is an interesting theory about Dumbledore and Snape... I hope Snape is the one that dies... he is no good, no matter what dumbledore thinks... the other one that dies must be Harry or Voldemort... According to the Prophecy, they cannot coexist... one can't live if the other one is alive, and if I remember correctly, that was the whole point of Voldemort trying to kill Harry as a baby, because he was going to be his doom... But Voldemort never heard the whole prophecy... that's why he wanted to steal it from the Ministry...

I guess we will have to wait until next week...grumble

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Thu 07/12/07 07:24 AM
Of course Snape is good, he is petty and cruel, but he's working against Voldemort. Think about how powerful Snape is and then tell me why he didn't kidnap Harry when he had the chance? Why was he still trying to teach Harry even while Harry was trying to kill him? Dumbledore is right about Snape.

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At an event where J.K. Rowling was answering audience questions author Salman Rushdie (along with his son) stated "Our theory is that Snape is in fact, still a good guy" but then added that if Snape is good then it must follow that Dumbledore is alive, (and if Snape is bad then it must follow that Dumbledore is dead.) "So, is Snape good or bad?" he asked. "In our opinion, everything follows from it."

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Alada's photo
Thu 07/12/07 10:11 AM
Will it be possible that Dumbledore is dead but not dead? able to come back? through some powerful magic?

T00Lfan's photo
Thu 07/12/07 10:19 AM
He is alive through the pensive( SP?)...

I think that he will leave it to Harry, and Harry will be able to communicate with Dumbledore on some level through it.

That is my theory.

Snape will have to help Harry... He owes Harry's dad a life debt. There is no question about that. Plus if snape wanted to kill or even hurt Harry, he could have at the end of Prince. he'll he didn't even taunt Harry that much.


brokenheart74's photo
Thu 07/12/07 10:25 AM
It's too horrible to think Dumbledore is permanently dead.noway

T00Lfan's photo
Thu 07/12/07 10:33 AM
I think he has to be...

He wouldn't make a Horcrux, and he would never need to become a ghost.

the only thing that could happen is that he might have found away to bring back the dead, and left a message telling Harry or Snape how to do it.

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Thu 07/12/07 10:41 AM
Look at Dumbledore's 'pet'. A Phoenix. Born from it's own ashes. Perhaps Dunbledore does have some way to rise again.

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Thu 07/12/07 12:34 PM
Dumbledore is dead. JK Rowling has said that many times. He will well and truely dead. He will be in the new book, because he's in the painting and on the chocolate frog cards. I'm sure he will be helping Harry in some capacity.

I think Sirius Black will make a comeback of some kind, but if he will be alive, dead or in a recorded message, I can't say.

RAB of the locket fame was none other than Regulous A. Black, Sirius' brother.

The locket Horcrux is probably in the Black residence. Remember that Kreacher was trying to hide a locket with snakes on it when Miss Weasley was trying to clean up the house? This happened in the OotP.

Drinking the potion turned Dumbledore slightly mad, who else do we know who is completely mad? Kreacher! RAB must have forced Kreacher to drink the potion so that he could get at the locket.

Wormtail will help Harry in some significant way...if you don't believe me, re-read PoA.

Just guesses :)

Not to be mean, but the actors who play Dean and Ginny aren't very attractive...I think the HBP movie will be less than fun to watch in a couple places.

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Thu 07/12/07 12:52 PM
They are young...We'll see what happens later, I thought Ginny was fine looking. I mean she looks soooo much younger than Harry yet, but still she has a year or so to grow.


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Thu 07/12/07 01:16 PM
a spell to bring the dead back to life? Something like what Voldemort did... and the fact that Dumbledore's pet is a phoenix and the phoenix sings during Dumbledore's funeral, is a bit indicative of the not dissapearance of Dumbledore. It has also been speculated that Sirius is not dead, he fell through the veil, and it is not totally certain if the people behind the veil are dead or not... My least favorite book was HBP... and it is the only one I haven't re-read.

I think that the life debt owed to James Potter by Snape, has been paid... unless a debt like that is never paid in full.

Maybe the two deaths will be those of Harry and Voldemort, both... in some fashion, they are part of each other. They cannot coexist, but in the same way, I don't think they can even exist one without the other...When Voldemort tried to kill Harry as a baby he transfered along to Harry some of his own powers such as the ability to speak Parsel, and Harry is a not completeley trained Legillimens, hence one of the reasons to train him in Occlumency. By taking Harry's blood to get his body back, he is connected in yet another way to Harry. Both their wands are made with Feathers of the same Phoenix, Faukes, Dumbledore's pet...

Dumbledore cannot perpetuate his presence and he was really old... and by taking that potion he was really dying... and the Philosopher's stone was destroyed, that's what Nicholas Flamel used to make the potion for long life...

Harry and Ginny will be a couple, but at the end of Deadly Hollows, if he survives... and Ron and Hermione will be too

I am getting a migraine now....

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Thu 07/12/07 06:15 PM
roflmao, I am oh so glad to see that someone besides myself though of the locket that Kreacher was trying to steal while Mr.s weasley was cleaning house. I am one hundred percent certaint hat is the answer of that particular horcrux.

As far as Sirius black and wether or not he is dead or alive, Ms. Rowling has already statef beyond a doubt that Sirius is dead; finite; kaput. No coming back, lol.

With Dumbledore, yes he is stillg onna play a part, however it is going to be an advisory part, just teh same as all the other former headmasters/mistresses. His picture is above the desk in headmistress McGonagle's office, taking the place of the former headmaster, whom he replaced in "real" life. I think that the beginning of the book is going to have Harry talking to Dumbledores picture to finish the passing fo information.
I think also that Dumbledore is going to continue to insist that snape is good, that he killed Dumbledore due to the fact that he had been forced to make the unbreakable vow in the beginning of the book Half-Blood prince, promising to complete Draco's task for him if Draco could not do so himself. Obvioulsy he would have told Dumbledore about this, and dumbledore specifically tells draco that he has known fromt he beginning that he (draco) was trying to kill dumbledore. I believe hat Dumbledore ordered Snape to kill him if it came down to that in order to prevent Snapes cover from being blown, thus protecting Snape with Dumbledores life.


As far as what the final horcrux is going to be, I do not have any idea if it isnt the mirror of elisrod. Anyone else have any conjectures?

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Fri 07/13/07 06:45 AM
I don't think is the Mirror of Erised... Remember that it was Dumbledore himself who put it away at the end of Philosopher's Stone. He wouldn't be looking for it now, would he? I am going to have to read Half Blood Prince again... I have only read it once, and I am still a bit confused about the horcruxes and all...

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Fri 07/13/07 07:59 AM
daniel48706,

When Voldemort visited Dumbledore in his office to ask for a job, Voldemort looked at something on Dumbledore's shelf. Could he have cast a spell with that glance and turned the pheonix or the hat into a Horcrux? A pheonix Horcrux would make you almost completely immortal. Okay, kind of reaching here, but it's a slight possiblity.

Harry doesn't die, I'm sure of that. JK Rowling allowed something to slip out in an interview, which I think proves that Harry won't die.

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Fri 07/13/07 08:45 AM
Wow! and here I thought I had memorized everything in the Potter books! Hats off to you!

Voldemort was still Tom Riddle when he asked Dumbledore for a job right? But I don't think he could turn an object into a horcrux through looking at it and a silent/mental spell...

Guess we are going to have to wait for the book...

uk1971's photo
Fri 07/13/07 09:09 AM
As I live over here in Europe and the book comes out here weeks before you guys get. I'll find out before you.

In reality Professor Dumbledore is Voldemort, Hermione marries Malfoy, Ron is made Head boy and Hagrid is Harry's long lost twin sister. bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile glasses

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