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Topic: For JW Who Believe "Jesus Christ is not God"
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Thu 09/29/11 09:40 AM
Edited by joy4gud on Thu 09/29/11 09:48 AM
I feel so sorry for you. Abrac ((head shake))

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Thu 09/29/11 09:42 AM

Jeanniebean wrote:

Everyone has an opinion and everyone has a personal relationship with spirit or God. Some people admit that do not know, and others insist that they know everything. Don't think you know more than the next guy. If you open your heart to let love out, then that is God.


You may as well be talking to the air. laugh

Christianity is based on Hebrew egotism. No one shall put any Gods above ours! rant

Our God is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, blah, blah, blah.

Christianity is nothing more than an egotistical Hebrew rant.

It really has nothing at all to do with anything that Jesus taught. Jesus was just a victim of Hebrew egotism.

Jesus taught the moral and spiritual values of Mahayana Buddhism. The egocentric authors of the New Testament rumors are the people who turned that into the foundation for religious bigotry in Jesus' name.

It's truly a shame. Such a shamble. ohwell

Any god who would lust to be such an egotistical dictator would be as feeble, weak, and flawed as a mortal man. The religion is the antithesis of anything spiritual.

I don't claim to know "God", but I do claim to be able to recognize religious bigotry created by humans. That's pretty easy to do actually. bigsmile



I don't know what I would call it without sounding judgmental. But it does separate people into "them, the unsaved, and us who have been saved."

They believe they are saved, and it makes their lives better. If that helps them to be happy, I would not want to take that from them.

As long as they let other people live in peace I have no problem with it. I don't believe what they are preaching in the way they believe it. I find it simpler to just believe in love and in my own spirituality.




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Thu 09/29/11 09:44 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/29/11 09:44 AM

I feel so sorry for you. ((head shake))


That is a bit condescending and insincere and very judgmental.

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Thu 09/29/11 09:53 AM


I feel so sorry for you. ((head shake))


That is a bit condescending and insincere and very judgmental.


will, iam sorry if it sound judgmental, but that what i feel. :smile:

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Thu 09/29/11 09:55 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/29/11 09:56 AM



I feel so sorry for you. ((head shake))


That is a bit condescending and insincere and very judgmental.


will, iam sorry if it sound judgmental, but that what i feel. :smile:


Then I feel sorry for you.

Does that make you feel better?

(I don't really feel sorry for you, I don't know you well enough.laugh )flowerforyou

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Thu 09/29/11 10:06 AM
In what I/we believe and hold on to is not judgemental of others. we judge ourselves. those coming to us. Those who study believe get baptised have hand layed on them.

we judge amoung ourselves to help each other.

we do not judge the world because we believe thier will be a final judgement.

we may be part of that final judgement so we try and do what we believe is right now. with the help of the Holy Spirit from Yahweh.

we do no believe that Yahweh made man to torture him in the end forever.

we believe this is a training ground how to live a just and fruitful life and that by our actions the people of the world will have no need to be judgemental of us but prefer to be our friend.

The scriptures we do not believe speak of death as the end.

It says it is like sleep.and thier will be 2 risings of the dead.

1 when Yahshua returns to earth

1 right before the Kingdom of Heaven actually comes to earth.

when Yahshua returns for a 1000 year regiegn we believe his chosen.. those who have been doing his work with a pure heart will rise to life forevermore.


the 2nd one when satan the beast and the false prophet are thrown into the fiery pit. them only will go to this so called hell.

the rest of all mankind will be brought back to life and judged by thier works.. what they did in thier life. whether good or bad.

those who always tried to do good to others will inherit eternal life.

those who have murdered ect... will be killed. a death sentence.

whether that will involve pain or not we do not know but it will be short lived and over.

We believe that The Doctrine of Being Tortured in Hells fire for ever and ever is a lie. straight from Satan Himself because Yahweh will not do such a thing to flesh and blood who were put on this earth in his image.

angels were created. they go back and forth to heaven and Yahweh's throne all the time.. we never know when one may be around.

but satan and his angels/demons do and they know.

so do not judge anothers persons life worry about your own and we all would be better off spiritually speaking.. Blessings of Shalom....Miles

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Thu 09/29/11 10:09 AM




I feel so sorry for you. ((head shake))


That is a bit condescending and insincere and very judgmental.


will, iam sorry if it sound judgmental, but that what i feel. :smile:


Then I feel sorry for you.

Does that make you feel better?

(I don't really feel sorry for you, I don't know you well enough.laugh )flowerforyou

oh no, that will make me sad laugh

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Thu 09/29/11 11:14 AM

Jeanniebean wrote:

Everyone has an opinion and everyone has a personal relationship with spirit or God. Some people admit that do not know, and others insist that they know everything. Don't think you know more than the next guy. If you open your heart to let love out, then that is God.


You may as well be talking to the air. laugh

Christianity is based on Hebrew egotism. No one shall put any Gods above ours! rant

Our God is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, blah, blah, blah.

Christianity is nothing more than an egotistical Hebrew rant.

It really has nothing at all to do with anything that Jesus taught. Jesus was just a victim of Hebrew egotism.

Jesus taught the moral and spiritual values of Mahayana Buddhism. The egocentric authors of the New Testament rumors are the people who turned that into the foundation for religious bigotry in Jesus' name.

It's truly a shame. Such a shamble. ohwell

Any god who would lust to be such an egotistical dictator would be as feeble, weak, and flawed as a mortal man. The religion is the antithesis of anything spiritual.

I don't claim to know "God", but I do claim to be able to recognize religious bigotry created by humans. That's pretty easy to do actually. bigsmile


Jesus in no way could have been teaching Buddhism. For the simple fact, Buddhism teaches reincarnation and Jesus taught of one final judgement. Yes, their moral standards may be similar, but so are most to all religious beliefs, no stealing, no lying, ect.

This was the focal point of Jesus' teachings. Not mentioned once or twice, was the main focal point. It's not like it was said once and they misunderstood him, changed his words, ect. There are many authors of the bible in itself. They all hold grounds of one final judgement and no reincarnation without any form of contradiction, error, or anything else in this particular subject.

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Thu 09/29/11 11:15 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 09/29/11 11:41 AM








http://www.enjoyinggodministries.com/article/27-c-s-lewiss-most-important-discovery/


:heart::heart::heart:

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Thu 09/29/11 11:34 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/29/11 11:35 AM
Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.

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Thu 09/29/11 11:38 AM

Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation. Buddhism speaks of reincarnation. This is not what Jesus taught.

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Thu 09/29/11 11:52 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 09/29/11 11:53 AM


Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation. Buddhism speaks of reincarnation. This is not what Jesus taught.



I'm not convinced of that. Many scriptures have been purposely left out of the Bible by the Church establishment simply because if incarnation and reincarnation were taught, the fear of death could not be used as a tool by the church.

Because of the nature of time, Reincarnation and incarnation are basically the same thing. It is the idea that spirit comes into this physical world and manifests itself as living beings. That includes plants and animals and it includes all time lines. The spirit dwells outside of space-time so some of your past lives could actually be in the future and your next life could be in the past.






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Thu 09/29/11 12:01 PM



Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation. Buddhism speaks of reincarnation. This is not what Jesus taught.



I'm not convinced of that. Many scriptures have been purposely left out of the Bible by the Church establishment simply because if incarnation and reincarnation were taught, the fear of death could not be used as a tool by the church.

Because of the nature of time, Reincarnation and incarnation are basically the same thing. It is the idea that spirit comes into this physical world and manifests itself as living beings. That includes plants and animals and it includes all time lines. The spirit dwells outside of space-time so some of your past lives could actually be in the future and your next life could be in the past.








What is some evidence they left anything out? Please enlighten us.

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Thu 09/29/11 12:27 PM


Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation....



http://www.definitions.net/definition/incarnation:wink:


:heart::heart::heart:


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Thu 09/29/11 12:32 PM



Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation....



http://www.definitions.net/definition/incarnation:wink:


:heart::heart::heart:




Incarnation - an incarnate being or form.
Incarnate - given a bodily, esp. a human, form

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Thu 09/29/11 01:09 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 09/29/11 01:22 PM
Incarnation is deity taking on human form.

Jesus Christ is God Incarnate.



:heart::heart::heart:

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Thu 09/29/11 01:37 PM


when i ponder this question, i often think about a german concentration camp guard at auschwitiz in 1944. he's a devout christian, attends church with his loving family each sunday and donates his share when the collection plate is passed. on this day he is leading jews, among whom is a family, mother, father, daughter, son, into the gas chamber. now here is where it gets confusing to me, the nazi, if he asks forgiveness for his sins after the war, will enjoy raising his children, playing with his grand children and otherwise basking in the warmth we call life. and when that ends he'll ascend to heaven where he'll meet his loved ones. the jewish family on the other hand, not believing precisely as the german that jesus is the son of god, will burn in hell for eternity. that's just sick man.


This is one reason why i am against religion. Even if God, Christianity and Jesus could be proved to me beyond any doubt, i would not want to be a part of it. I'll choose to burn in hell with the Jews and all the other good people there.


Don't worry; I won't let you burn in hell as I intend on ruling it. pitchfork

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Thu 09/29/11 02:26 PM




Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation. Buddhism speaks of reincarnation. This is not what Jesus taught.



I'm not convinced of that. Many scriptures have been purposely left out of the Bible by the Church establishment simply because if incarnation and reincarnation were taught, the fear of death could not be used as a tool by the church.

Because of the nature of time, Reincarnation and incarnation are basically the same thing. It is the idea that spirit comes into this physical world and manifests itself as living beings. That includes plants and animals and it includes all time lines. The spirit dwells outside of space-time so some of your past lives could actually be in the future and your next life could be in the past.








What is some evidence they left anything out? Please enlighten us.



Since you already feel you are completely enlightened already it would be a waste of my time.


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Thu 09/29/11 02:28 PM


Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation. Buddhism speaks of reincarnation. This is not what Jesus taught.


No, incarnation is not creation, it is manifestation.


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Thu 09/29/11 02:56 PM



Incarnation is talked about in the Bible.
I don't see Buddhism as being a "religion" but more of a kind of way of life.


Incarnation, yes. Incarnation is nothing more then creation. Buddhism speaks of reincarnation. This is not what Jesus taught.


No, incarnation is not creation, it is manifestation.




Incarnation is creation/being brought to life. That is where the word Reincarnation derives from. Means being created/being brought to life again.

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