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Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 11/11/11 10:15 PM
why in the world if we believe " coming from the horses mouth,now" and we all agree they must ride.

would we cannabalize ourselves?

Is it fun to torture the insides of ones own self?

So why? when the Scriptures of Life whether you see it as proufound or not.

would you eat SWINE?

Discustable ranchad pig of the deceased.

an Abomination. where Yahshua told the demons to go.. to the PIG.


Now you parade it as a symbol you are free.. What BS>

what real reasoning do you have for eating swine?

Have you never looked at someone sitting near by while they are munching a sub down, double jowl and all. do you not see a cartoon Human Pig?

humanoid pig looking Moron?

and you Eat him.

Sick I telll you, sick. why.. to those who say they believe.. explain yourselves... Blessings of Shalom


CowboyGH's photo
Fri 11/11/11 11:12 PM

why in the world if we believe " coming from the horses mouth,now" and we all agree they must ride.

would we cannabalize ourselves?

Is it fun to torture the insides of ones own self?

So why? when the Scriptures of Life whether you see it as proufound or not.

would you eat SWINE?

Discustable ranchad pig of the deceased.

an Abomination. where Yahshua told the demons to go.. to the PIG.


Now you parade it as a symbol you are free.. What BS>

what real reasoning do you have for eating swine?

Have you never looked at someone sitting near by while they are munching a sub down, double jowl and all. do you not see a cartoon Human Pig?

humanoid pig looking Moron?

and you Eat him.

Sick I telll you, sick. why.. to those who say they believe.. explain yourselves... Blessings of Shalom




They were not to be eaten, because they were a "dirty" beast. They were not of a clean meat.

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Leviticus 11

1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.





Then God cleansed the animals later on.
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Acts 10:9-15


9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 11/11/11 11:55 PM


why in the world if we believe " coming from the horses mouth,now" and we all agree they must ride.

would we cannabalize ourselves?

Is it fun to torture the insides of ones own self?

So why? when the Scriptures of Life whether you see it as proufound or not.

would you eat SWINE?

Discustable ranchad pig of the deceased.

an Abomination. where Yahshua told the demons to go.. to the PIG.


Now you parade it as a symbol you are free.. What BS>

what real reasoning do you have for eating swine?

Have you never looked at someone sitting near by while they are munching a sub down, double jowl and all. do you not see a cartoon Human Pig?

humanoid pig looking Moron?

and you Eat him.

Sick I telll you, sick. why.. to those who say they believe.. explain yourselves... Blessings of Shalom




They were not to be eaten, because they were a "dirty" beast. They were not of a clean meat.

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Leviticus 11

1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.





Then God cleansed the animals later on.
-------------------

Acts 10:9-15


9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


Lev. 11 yes clearly says its unclean and you will not eat it.

acts 10 is your reasoning. what did did the Angel say to cornelious?

Acts 10:4-8

So he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before Yahweh. 5 Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. 6 He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. He will tell you what you must do." 7 And when the angel who spoke to him had departed, Cornelius called two of his household servants and a devout soldier from among those who waited on him continually. 8 So when he had explained all these things to them, he sent them to Joppa.
NKJV


WQhat did Cornnelius do. sent 2 servents and a soldier to who?

Peter. for what? His prayers had been aswered the Angel said.

Then Peter has a vision of the unclean 3 times. what does Peter say? Why does he not understand the vision?

Acts 10:14

14 But Peter said, "Not so, Master! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean."
NKJV

Peter saw the unclean but what does Yahshua say?

Acts 10:15
"What Elohim has cleansed you must not call common."

and the vision is taken away the 3rd time.. where in thier does Yahshua say UNCLEAN? cleansed? is that it?

but what happens next.

read it closely what is not to be called COMMON>>

Acts 10:17-23

Now while Peter wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant, behold, the men who had been sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate. 18 And they called and asked whether Simon, whose surname was Peter, was lodging there.

19 While Peter thought about the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Behold, three men are seeking you. 20 Arise therefore, go down and go with them, doubting nothing; for I have sent them."

21 Then Peter went down to the men who had been sent to him from Cornelius, and said, "Yes, I am he whom you seek. For what reason have you come?"

22 And they said, "Cornelius the centurion, a just man, one who fears Yahweh and has a good reputation among all the nation of the Jews, was divinely instructed by a holy angel to summon you to his house, and to hear words from you." 23 Then he invited them in and lodged them.

On the next day Peter went away with them, and some brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
NKJV

NKJV


Did Peter Meditate then?

No. the same angel that appeared in Joppa appeared to him and said 3 MEN are waiting for u..

Thats what is not called common Cowboy.

This is simple math. our heads are screwed up with computer science. we make it to hard.

It must conform to our beliefs not our beliefs conforming with the word.

read chapter 10 and then let chapter 11 go over it with you again because it makes a VERY strong Point to let us know Cornilius or any man who accepts Messiah is part of the WAY.

Put your tradition assiide and read it for what chapters 10 and 11 really say.. Tradition Blinds.. Blessings..Miles




jrbogie's photo
Sat 11/12/11 06:40 AM
i love my bacon crispy.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 11/12/11 07:55 AM



why in the world if we believe " coming from the horses mouth,now" and we all agree they must ride.

would we cannabalize ourselves?

Is it fun to torture the insides of ones own self?

So why? when the Scriptures of Life whether you see it as proufound or not.

would you eat SWINE?

Discustable ranchad pig of the deceased.

an Abomination. where Yahshua told the demons to go.. to the PIG.


Now you parade it as a symbol you are free.. What BS>

what real reasoning do you have for eating swine?

Have you never looked at someone sitting near by while they are munching a sub down, double jowl and all. do you not see a cartoon Human Pig?

humanoid pig looking Moron?

and you Eat him.

Sick I telll you, sick. why.. to those who say they believe.. explain yourselves... Blessings of Shalom




They were not to be eaten, because they were a "dirty" beast. They were not of a clean meat.

----------
Leviticus 11

1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.





Then God cleansed the animals later on.
-------------------

Acts 10:9-15


9On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.


Lev. 11 yes clearly says its unclean and you will not eat it.

acts 10 is your reasoning. what did did the Angel say to cornelious?

Acts 10:4-8

So he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before Yahweh. 5 Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. 6 He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. He will tell you what you must do." 7 And when the angel who spoke to him had departed, Cornelius called two of his household servants and a devout soldier from among those who waited on him continually. 8 So when he had explained all these things to them, he sent them to Joppa.
NKJV


WQhat did Cornnelius do. sent 2 servents and a soldier to who?

Peter. for what? His prayers had been aswered the Angel said.

Then Peter has a vision of the unclean 3 times. what does Peter say? Why does he not understand the vision?

Acts 10:14

14 But Peter said, "Not so, Master! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean."
NKJV

Peter saw the unclean but what does Yahshua say?

Acts 10:15
"What Elohim has cleansed you must not call common."

and the vision is taken away the 3rd time.. where in thier does Yahshua say UNCLEAN? cleansed? is that it?

but what happens next.

read it closely what is not to be called COMMON>>

Acts 10:17-23

Now while Peter wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant, behold, the men who had been sent from Cornelius had made inquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate. 18 And they called and asked whether Simon, whose surname was Peter, was 4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto youlodging there.

19 While Peter thought about the vision, the Spirit said to him, "Behold, three men are seeking you. 20 Arise therefore, go down and go with them, doubting nothing; for I have sent them."

21 Then Peter went down to the men who had been sent to him from Cornelius, and said, "Yes, I am he whom you seek. For what reason have you come?"

22 And they said, "Cornelius the centurion, a just man, one who fears Yahweh and has a good reputation among all the nation of the Jews, was divinely instructed by a holy angel to summon you to his house, and to hear words from you." 23 Then he invited them in and lodged them.

On the next day Peter went away with them, and some brethren from Joppa accompanied him.
NKJV

NKJV


Did Peter Meditate then?

No. the same angel that appeared in Joppa appeared to him and said 3 MEN are waiting for u..

Thats what is not called common Cowboy.

This is simple math. our heads are screwed up with computer science. we make it to hard.

It must conform to our beliefs not our beliefs conforming with the word.

read chapter 10 and then let chapter 11 go over it with you again because it makes a VERY strong Point to let us know Cornilius or any man who accepts Messiah is part of the WAY.

Put your tradition assiide and read it for what chapters 10 and 11 really say.. Tradition Blinds.. Blessings..Miles







Acts 10:15
"What Elohim has cleansed you must not call common."

and the vision is taken away the 3rd time.. where in thier does Yahshua say UNCLEAN? cleansed? is that it?


This is why I posted both verse(s). It explains what is unclean in the first verse(s).

Lev 11:4
4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you



This is simple math. our heads are screwed up with computer science. we make it to hard.

It must conform to our beliefs not our beliefs conforming with the word.

read chapter 10 and then let chapter 11 go over it with you again because it makes a VERY strong Point to let us know Cornilius or any man who accepts Messiah is part of the WAY.

Put your tradition assiide and read it for what chapters 10 and 11 really say.. Tradition Blinds.. Blessings..Miles


God's word doesn't "conform" to anything. We are given God's word so we can "conform" to it in hopes to achieve everlasting life.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 11/12/11 07:56 AM

i love my bacon crispy.


Which is totally ok as the swine "pig" meat has been cleansed for us.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 11/12/11 07:57 AM
Purely Health-Rules!

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Sat 11/12/11 10:54 AM

i love my bacon crispy.


laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 11/12/11 11:00 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 11/12/11 11:01 AM
Technically, a pigs flesh is close to human flesh. In Africa the cannibals called humans "long pig."

As for them being "dirty" this is not a scientific fact. Pigs are clean animals. The reason they like mud is that they can't keep cool by sweating. If you keep them in a cement pen with a pool, they are very clean and bath regularly.

I have also heard that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. If I raised pigs I probably would not have the heart to kill and eat them. They are smart and they form emotional attachments.

Another fact is, if you fall into a pig pen, they might eat you alive, bones and all. That they themselves will eat meat may be why they are considered "dirty."







Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/12/11 11:04 AM
Hello Miles
Always nice to see you.

I won't eat swine and it has nothing to do with the bible...
it's disgusting, I can't get past the smell!!! ill

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 11/12/11 11:15 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sat 11/12/11 11:19 AM

Technically, a pigs flesh is close to human flesh. In Africa the cannibals called humans "long pig."

As for them being "dirty" this is not a scientific fact. Pigs are clean animals. The reason they like mud is that they can't keep cool by sweating. If you keep them in a cement pen with a pool, they are very clean and bath regularly.

I have also heard that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. If I raised pigs I probably would not have the heart to kill and eat them. They are smart and they form emotional attachments.

Another fact is, if you fall into a pig pen, they might eat you alive, bones and all. That they themselves will eat meat may be why they are considered "dirty."










As for them being "dirty" this is not a scientific fact. Pigs are clean animals. The reason they like mud is that they can't keep cool by sweating. If you keep them in a cement pen with a pool, they are very clean and bath regularly


Pigs themselves may be clean, but the meat is not.

If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, wait a little while, you will SEE WORMS crawl out of it.

Although some of these infestations are harboured in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far MORE PREDISPOSED to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because PIGS like to SCAVENGE and will eat ANY kind of food, INCLUDING dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, excreta including their own, garbage, and other pigs. INFLUENZA (flu) is one of the MOST famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is haboured in the LUNGS of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and human in the cooler months.

Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so those who EAT pork sausage tend to SUFFER MORE during EPIDEMICS of INFLUENZA. Pig meat contains EXCESSIVE quantities of HISTAMINE and IMIDAZOLE compounds, which can lead to ITCHING and INFLAMMATION; GROWTH HORMONE which PROMOTES INFLAMMATION and growth; sulphur containing mesenchymal mucus which leads to SWELLING and deposits of MUCUS in tendons and cartilage, resulting in ATHRITIS, RHEUMATISM, etc.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/12/11 11:21 AM
the bible says women are 'un clean' after giving birth and during their periods, so hummmmm.....

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 11/12/11 11:23 AM

the bible says women are 'un clean' after giving birth and during their periods, so hummmmm.....


unclean = not being clean. Would women be very clean during their menstrual if it weren't for tampons and pads?

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 11/12/11 11:35 AM


the bible says women are 'un clean' after giving birth and during their periods, so hummmmm.....


unclean = not being clean. Would women be very clean during their menstrual if it weren't for tampons and pads?


Thanks for the clarification.

Messy would be a better term than 'not clean.'

Is your blood dirty? What about a male's sperm...would it be 'unclean' because of where it is coming out of?
Is it the blood that is 'unclean' or it it because it flows out of our vagina's? Is the baby born also 'unclean' because of where it came from and it is covered in the mothers blood.

Is the blood of battle unclean? When men kill in gods name..is that blood ok? Is god alright with blood from violence but not blood from the bodies of 'his' creations?

Pigs and women are 'unclean' according to your bible.

Such silly-ness.







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Sat 11/12/11 11:42 AM


Technically, a pigs flesh is close to human flesh. In Africa the cannibals called humans "long pig."

As for them being "dirty" this is not a scientific fact. Pigs are clean animals. The reason they like mud is that they can't keep cool by sweating. If you keep them in a cement pen with a pool, they are very clean and bath regularly.

I have also heard that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. If I raised pigs I probably would not have the heart to kill and eat them. They are smart and they form emotional attachments.

Another fact is, if you fall into a pig pen, they might eat you alive, bones and all. That they themselves will eat meat may be why they are considered "dirty."










As for them being "dirty" this is not a scientific fact. Pigs are clean animals. The reason they like mud is that they can't keep cool by sweating. If you keep them in a cement pen with a pool, they are very clean and bath regularly


Pigs themselves may be clean, but the meat is not.

If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, wait a little while, you will SEE WORMS crawl out of it.

Although some of these infestations are harboured in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far MORE PREDISPOSED to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because PIGS like to SCAVENGE and will eat ANY kind of food, INCLUDING dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, excreta including their own, garbage, and other pigs. INFLUENZA (flu) is one of the MOST famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is haboured in the LUNGS of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and human in the cooler months.

Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so those who EAT pork sausage tend to SUFFER MORE during EPIDEMICS of INFLUENZA. Pig meat contains EXCESSIVE quantities of HISTAMINE and IMIDAZOLE compounds, which can lead to ITCHING and INFLAMMATION; GROWTH HORMONE which PROMOTES INFLAMMATION and growth; sulphur containing mesenchymal mucus which leads to SWELLING and deposits of MUCUS in tendons and cartilage, resulting in ATHRITIS, RHEUMATISM, etc.


ewww.

and I was going to get some sausage today.

Maybe I'll pass. sick frown


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Sat 11/12/11 11:51 AM
I'm not sure I believe the story about the worms and the coke.

Also, any raw meat will have parasites and germs, even worms.

Cooking kills those.

You will find germs, worms, and parasites in most everything.

Maybe I'll quite eating altogether. ohwell tongue2 sick sick

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 11/12/11 07:40 PM


i love my bacon crispy.


Which is totally ok as the swine "pig" meat has been cleansed for us.

Yet the processing of said 'pig' requires it be alive up to the final processing...

Pigs are 'unclean' to us because they carry transmittible deaseases that can 'mutate' human...

The cooked meat may be 'cleansed' but the raising of can lead to cross viruses.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 11/12/11 09:25 PM



the bible says women are 'un clean' after giving birth and during their periods, so hummmmm.....


unclean = not being clean. Would women be very clean during their menstrual if it weren't for tampons and pads?


Thanks for the clarification.

Messy would be a better term than 'not clean.'

Is your blood dirty? What about a male's sperm...would it be 'unclean' because of where it is coming out of?
Is it the blood that is 'unclean' or it it because it flows out of our vagina's? Is the baby born also 'unclean' because of where it came from and it is covered in the mothers blood.

Is the blood of battle unclean? When men kill in gods name..is that blood ok? Is god alright with blood from violence but not blood from the bodies of 'his' creations?

Pigs and women are 'unclean' according to your bible.

Such silly-ness.









"women" aren't unclean. Also have to keep in mind the time these things were written down. They did not have tampons, pads, ect back in those days. When they bled, they bled all over themselves... over their legs ect. That was what was unclean and is why the woman was unclean for that time being. They aren't unclean in general.

And pigs are unclean. There are many transmittable diseases pigs meat carries. Don't believe me, look it up for yourself.

CowboyGH's photo
Sat 11/12/11 09:27 PM

I'm not sure I believe the story about the worms and the coke.

Also, any raw meat will have parasites and germs, even worms.

Cooking kills those.

You will find germs, worms, and parasites in most everything.

Maybe I'll quite eating altogether. ohwell tongue2 sick sick


Look it up if you do not believe.

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Sat 11/12/11 11:27 PM


I'm not sure I believe the story about the worms and the coke.

Also, any raw meat will have parasites and germs, even worms.

Cooking kills those.

You will find germs, worms, and parasites in most everything.

Maybe I'll quite eating altogether. ohwell tongue2 sick sick


Look it up if you do not believe.


I'll do better than that. I'll pour some coke on a slab of pork and see if any worms come out. Seeing is believing. We shall see.

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