Topic: Democrat, Rebublican, Libertarian?
Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/04/11 12:33 PM
It doesn't matter. Because the lobbyists own them all.

A couple of videos worth watching from 60 Minutes.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1

Derekkye's photo
Sun 12/04/11 12:42 PM

Ron Paul.

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/04/11 12:47 PM


Ron Paul.


After watching the second video, I'm not so sure there is a human being alive who does not fall to the corruption eventually.

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 12/04/11 01:14 PM


Congress needs a turn over rate that surpasses McDonalds but voters are too stupid to instill term limits with the ballot so nothing will change, I love getting my ballot because it pleases me to vote against the incumbents. I know it does not do any good because majority of voters are stupid and vote for the incumbents anyway.

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Sun 12/04/11 01:33 PM



Congress needs a turn over rate that surpasses McDonalds but voters are too stupid to instill term limits with the ballot so nothing will change, I love getting my ballot because it pleases me to vote against the incumbents. I know it does not do any good because majority of voters are stupid and vote for the incumbents anyway.
aw,give them two terms and no pension!laugh

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Sun 12/04/11 02:05 PM




Congress needs a turn over rate that surpasses McDonalds but voters are too stupid to instill term limits with the ballot so nothing will change, I love getting my ballot because it pleases me to vote against the incumbents. I know it does not do any good because majority of voters are stupid and vote for the incumbents anyway.
aw,give them two terms and no pension!laugh


That is how it should be! Congress needs to be part time with no perks.

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/04/11 02:06 PM





Congress needs a turn over rate that surpasses McDonalds but voters are too stupid to instill term limits with the ballot so nothing will change, I love getting my ballot because it pleases me to vote against the incumbents. I know it does not do any good because majority of voters are stupid and vote for the incumbents anyway.
aw,give them two terms and no pension!laugh


That is how it should be! Congress needs to be part time with no perks.


I think you're right.

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Sun 12/04/11 02:25 PM

It doesn't matter. Because the lobbyists own them all.

A couple of videos worth watching from 60 Minutes.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1


Honestly, I feel that the way things are done are right up there with treason. I've been saying this for years. The reason why we fight so many wars is much our own fault. If we were not so corrupt we would not have near as many holy enemies. Since the late 60s we have not been known as the defenders of truth, but more the great corrupt capital society. Thank God we are able to do as much good as we do, but it is far from what could be done.

nice thread Ruth

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Sun 12/04/11 03:00 PM
Do you know how to fix the corruption? It's very simple. Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments. Rein in the power that Congress has slowly gathered for itself. If they couldn't effect business, then nobody would want to bribe them or lobby them and they could no longer play the stock market using inside information. The corruption of our politicians is a symptom of the loss of our sovereignty.

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Sun 12/04/11 03:29 PM

According to Abramoff, in order to have even a remote chance of ending this kind of corruption, we must first prohibit all members of Congress and their staff from ever becoming a lobbyist after their service on the Hill is over…


Abramoff's answer to fixing this issue is to limit freedom. That's so backwards! Limit Congressional authority to affect our lives, that's the only logical solution, it gets to the actual root of the issue.

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Sun 12/04/11 03:40 PM



Ron Paul.


After watching the second video, I'm not so sure there is a human being alive who does not fall to the corruption eventually.



This is true. It is a den of thieves.

Bribery, threats, extortion, even "accidents" happen to those who don't fall into line with the den of thieves.

The higher the office, the more corrupt. You don't get there if you are not corrupted.

That is the plain truth. I've known this for many years.

This is the devils playground.


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Sun 12/04/11 03:47 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sun 12/04/11 03:47 PM


It doesn't matter. Because the lobbyists own them all.

A couple of videos worth watching from 60 Minutes.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1


Honestly, I feel that the way things are done are right up there with treason. I've been saying this for years. The reason why we fight so many wars is much our own fault. If we were not so corrupt we would not have near as many holy enemies. Since the late 60s we have not been known as the defenders of truth, but more the great corrupt capital society. Thank God we are able to do as much good as we do, but it is far from what could be done.

nice thread Ruth


Hey ya Michael! drinker

The congress without term limits is like a mafia cartel. The new members are influenced by the graft and wanting to "fulfill" their obligations....but to who?

Most of the "lifers" are millionaires! How can they know or even comprhend how the average person is effected by their choices? The only answer could be that "they just don't care"!

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 12/04/11 03:48 PM

Bribery, threats, extortion, even "accidents" happen to those who don't fall into line with the den of thieves.




That's why I don't hold out much hope. Even if we can get some "good" people in there. They won't survive to affect any real changes.

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Sun 12/04/11 03:57 PM



It doesn't matter. Because the lobbyists own them all.

A couple of videos worth watching from 60 Minutes.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1


Honestly, I feel that the way things are done are right up there with treason. I've been saying this for years. The reason why we fight so many wars is much our own fault. If we were not so corrupt we would not have near as many holy enemies. Since the late 60s we have not been known as the defenders of truth, but more the great corrupt capital society. Thank God we are able to do as much good as we do, but it is far from what could be done.

nice thread Ruth


Hey ya Michael! drinker

The congress without term limits is like a mafia cartel. The new members are influenced by the graft and wanting to "fulfill" their obligations....but to who?

Most of the "lifers" are millionaires! How can they know or even comprhend how the average person is effected by their choices? The only answer could be that "they just don't care"!

hear hear! I like to use the term "mafia" and "protection racket" interchangeably. :wink:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 12/04/11 04:30 PM




It doesn't matter. Because the lobbyists own them all.

A couple of videos worth watching from 60 Minutes.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1


Honestly, I feel that the way things are done are right up there with treason. I've been saying this for years. The reason why we fight so many wars is much our own fault. If we were not so corrupt we would not have near as many holy enemies. Since the late 60s we have not been known as the defenders of truth, but more the great corrupt capital society. Thank God we are able to do as much good as we do, but it is far from what could be done.

nice thread Ruth


Hey ya Michael! drinker

The congress without term limits is like a mafia cartel. The new members are influenced by the graft and wanting to "fulfill" their obligations....but to who?

Most of the "lifers" are millionaires! How can they know or even comprhend how the average person is effected by their choices? The only answer could be that "they just don't care"!

hear hear! I like to use the term "mafia" and "protection racket" interchangeably. :wink:


Think about it....Newt is MSM's "forecast" as frontrunner.... him and Nancy Punishme are like the snake swallowing it's own tail!

I think "Crazy Uncle Ron" has a little surprise in store for ALL of them! Perhaps "Crazy" people will inherit the earth laugh

GO RON! drinker :banana: drinker

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Sun 12/04/11 10:05 PM
I'm for Ron Paul but don't tell the damn survey takers.

Lets surprise them.