Topic: Men, don't be afraid of women...
MariahsFantasy's photo
Sat 01/14/12 10:06 AM



It's more that they are tired of being rejected not really afraid.So they have made their minds up to let the woman make the first move and until this happens they go on with their lives.


Where does the thought of rejection come from? Its a cop out no matter how you slice it. That's playing games, it doesn't matter who makes the first move. I guess its more of thing if women do. Personally it doesn't matter. If nothing happens then no one gets anything.

You are a brave girl,mariah.
Far away from ego,that's goodflowerforyou



Thank you kindly bigsmile

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Sat 01/14/12 10:15 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Sat 01/14/12 10:18 AM


It's more that they are tired of being rejected not really afraid.So they have made their minds up to let the woman make the first move and until this happens they go on with their lives.


Where does the thought of rejection come from? Its a cop out no matter how you slice it. That's playing games, it doesn't matter who makes the first move. I guess its more of thing if women do. Personally it doesn't matter. If nothing happens then no one gets anything.
well i think it to be a solution to a problem he is having.Not every man in this world thinks like traditionalist or is afraid.Maybe he feels it will work better if he does this meaning if a woman shows she's interested then he'll approach her or give signals back he's interested.

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Sat 01/14/12 10:16 AM
I'm a "cave man"

If I am interested in a woman.....

I CHASE!!!!!!

Just the way I'm .......Wired!!!

bigsmile

MariahsFantasy's photo
Sat 01/14/12 10:18 AM



It's more that they are tired of being rejected not really afraid.So they have made their minds up to let the woman make the first move and until this happens they go on with their lives.


Where does the thought of rejection come from? Its a cop out no matter how you slice it. That's playing games, it doesn't matter who makes the first move. I guess its more of thing if women do. Personally it doesn't matter. If nothing happens then no one gets anything.
well i think it to be a solution to a problem he is having.Not ever man in this world thinks like traditionalist or is afraid.Maybe he feels it will work better if he does this meaning if a woman shows she's interested then he'll approach her or give signals back he's interested.


Humor: I'm interested

Calling back: He's interested

Its that simple. Except women have different ways of showing they're interested.

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Sat 01/14/12 10:29 AM


I prefer to make the first move. But she has to give hints she is interested.


right - I think a lot of this comes down to WHAT do you consider the first move to be??? We (wimmin) prolly make the first move more often than we think - but in ways that cab be subtle


Eye contact, a smile....bigsmile

MariahsFantasy's photo
Sat 01/14/12 10:46 AM



I prefer to make the first move. But she has to give hints she is interested.


right - I think a lot of this comes down to WHAT do you consider the first move to be??? We (wimmin) prolly make the first move more often than we think - but in ways that cab be subtle


Eye contact, a smile....bigsmile


Love it when guys have a shy smile with just a hint of blush. :heart: :heart: :heart:

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Sat 01/14/12 10:52 AM
<<<<<<<<< Shyly blushin a ......Smile!!!!!!
happy bigsmile happy happy

hehehe.................

prashant01's photo
Sat 01/14/12 11:09 AM



It's more that they are tired of being rejected not really afraid.So they have made their minds up to let the woman make the first move and until this happens they go on with their lives.


Where does the thought of rejection come from? Its a cop out no matter how you slice it. That's playing games, it doesn't matter who makes the first move. I guess its more of thing if women do. Personally it doesn't matter. If nothing happens then no one gets anything.
well i think it to be a solution to a problem he is having.Not every man in this world thinks like traditionalist or is afraid.Maybe he feels it will work better if he does this meaning if a woman shows she's interested then he'll approach her or give signals back he's interested.


The first quotes are yours,second one of mariah & third one again yours.

I'm not getting that,whom are you talking about RKISIT?

RKISIT's photo
Sat 01/14/12 11:22 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Sat 01/14/12 11:23 AM




It's more that they are tired of being rejected not really afraid.So they have made their minds up to let the woman make the first move and until this happens they go on with their lives.


Where does the thought of rejection come from? Its a cop out no matter how you slice it. That's playing games, it doesn't matter who makes the first move. I guess its more of thing if women do. Personally it doesn't matter. If nothing happens then no one gets anything.
well i think it to be a solution to a problem he is having.Not every man in this world thinks like traditionalist or is afraid.Maybe he feels it will work better if he does this meaning if a woman shows she's interested then he'll approach her or give signals back he's interested.


The first quotes are yours,second one of mariah & third one again yours.

I'm not getting that,whom are you talking about RKISIT?
not really anyone in particular just a thought i typed to show that theres other reasons besides being afraid of rejection that some men don't approach or make the first move on a woman.

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Sat 01/14/12 11:25 AM




I prefer to make the first move. But she has to give hints she is interested.


right - I think a lot of this comes down to WHAT do you consider the first move to be??? We (wimmin) prolly make the first move more often than we think - but in ways that cab be subtle


Eye contact, a smile....bigsmile


Love it when guys have a shy smile with just a hint of blush. :heart: :heart: :heart:


ya they can be cute that way

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Sat 01/14/12 11:35 AM
The problem, from what I have seen, is the guy with the best sales pitch usually has the worst product! The guy that has the best product and the most to offer doesn't feel the need to go after the mass market. He is willing to limit his marketing to to the highest quality customers, knowing he has a better chance of a long term purchase!:wink: glasses

MariahsFantasy's photo
Sat 01/14/12 11:40 AM

The problem, from what I have seen, is the guy with the best sales pitch usually has the worst product! The guy that has the best product and the most to offer doesn't feel the need to go after the mass market. He is willing to limit his marketing to to the highest quality customers, knowing he has a better chance of a long term purchase!:wink: glasses


All this is preference. But how do you get to know someone if all you're seeing is a bunch of bad eggs? Men are just WAY too attracted to someone's looks to differentiate. Unless you mean personality then I could see your point.

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Sat 01/14/12 11:45 AM
hmmm...I think there is no point in generalizing this topic,more or less it depends on evryones nature,business,interest,time & more on ego level etc. etc.

Now a days few people ( may be ladies / gents) are so workaholic / addicted to something else too that they even don't get time to think about this.Luckily(?) even if they get married then too they aren't able to manage married life happily & they breaks up.

Era being of men & women equality it isn't surprising that many males are shy as compared to so many bold women.

So I guess,who shall take lead,who afraid etc. don't remain anymore gender dependent things.

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Sat 01/14/12 11:56 AM

The problem, from what I have seen, is the guy with the best sales pitch usually has the worst product! The guy that has the best product and the most to offer doesn't feel the need to go after the mass market. He is willing to limit his marketing to to the highest quality customers, knowing he has a better chance of a long term purchase!:wink: glasses



This is often true. If you have it going for you, and you know it, you exude confidence. If you don't, you may have to make the effort to sell it or improve it.

As an artist, I know that it does not matter how good I am if I can't market my product.

Also, if people don't like you, they are not going to buy what you have.

So be likable, have something to offer and you will do okay.

I have actually met men and women that thought just because they have a penis or a vagina that they have something to offer that no one else has.

If you are putting yourself on the market, you have to sell it better or improve it. We are not God's gift to the opposite sex just because we are still breathing.








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Sat 01/14/12 11:59 AM

hmmm...I think there is no point in generalizing this topic,more or less it depends on evryones nature,business,interest,time & more on ego level etc. etc.

Now a days few people ( may be ladies / gents) are so workaholic / addicted to something else too that they even don't get time to think about this.Luckily(?) even if they get married then too they aren't able to manage married life happily & they breaks up.

Era being of men & women equality it isn't surprising that many males are shy as compared to so many bold women.

So I guess,who shall take lead,who afraid etc. don't remain anymore gender dependent things.


If you are traditional, you will politely play the game the traditional way.

But the truth is, a woman knows how to get a man's attention and how to let him know she is interested.

Men need to learn to read the signs BETTER.


MariahsFantasy's photo
Sat 01/14/12 12:02 PM


hmmm...I think there is no point in generalizing this topic,more or less it depends on evryones nature,business,interest,time & more on ego level etc. etc.

Now a days few people ( may be ladies / gents) are so workaholic / addicted to something else too that they even don't get time to think about this.Luckily(?) even if they get married then too they aren't able to manage married life happily & they breaks up.

Era being of men & women equality it isn't surprising that many males are shy as compared to so many bold women.

So I guess,who shall take lead,who afraid etc. don't remain anymore gender dependent things.


If you are traditional, you will politely play the game the traditional way.

But the truth is, a woman knows how to get a man's attention and how to let him know she is interested.

Men need to learn to read the signs BETTER.



Does it improve with age?

prashant01's photo
Sat 01/14/12 12:29 PM


hmmm...I think there is no point in generalizing this topic,more or less it depends on evryones nature,business,interest,time & more on ego level etc. etc.

Now a days few people ( may be ladies / gents) are so workaholic / addicted to something else too that they even don't get time to think about this.Luckily(?) even if they get married then too they aren't able to manage married life happily & they breaks up.

Era being of men & women equality it isn't surprising that many males are shy as compared to so many bold women.

So I guess,who shall take lead,who afraid etc. don't remain anymore gender dependent things.


If you are traditional, you will politely play the game the traditional way.

But the truth is, a woman knows how to get a man's attention and how to let him know she is interested.

Men need to learn to read the signs BETTER.


Yeah,it's nature's gift to them & that's what I said in the beginning.I know,even they have better sense of color & smell too.

They usually play their tricks to attract the male to whom they like & if they don't get proper response from him then usually they think that he is afraid of rejection or he is dumb but seldom they dare to propose or ask openly on their own.May be if they ask frankly,they may come to know the reality which can be somewhat different than they think.

but anyway,I even don't believe in those natural abilities of ladies now a days as because many ladies are getting so manly & dashing that expecting shy & womanly behavior from them is also foolishness.



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Sat 01/14/12 12:41 PM



hmmm...I think there is no point in generalizing this topic,more or less it depends on evryones nature,business,interest,time & more on ego level etc. etc.

Now a days few people ( may be ladies / gents) are so workaholic / addicted to something else too that they even don't get time to think about this.Luckily(?) even if they get married then too they aren't able to manage married life happily & they breaks up.

Era being of men & women equality it isn't surprising that many males are shy as compared to so many bold women.

So I guess,who shall take lead,who afraid etc. don't remain anymore gender dependent things.


If you are traditional, you will politely play the game the traditional way.

But the truth is, a woman knows how to get a man's attention and how to let him know she is interested.

Men need to learn to read the signs BETTER.


Yeah,it's nature's gift to them & that's what I said in the beginning.I know,even they have better sense of color & smell too.

They usually play their tricks to attract the male to whom they like & if they don't get proper response from him then usually they think that he is afraid of rejection or he is dumb but seldom they dare to propose or ask openly on their own.May be if they ask frankly,they may come to know the reality which can be somewhat different than they think.

but anyway,I even don't believe in those natural abilities of ladies now a days as because many ladies are getting so manly & dashing that expecting shy & womanly behavior from them is also foolishness.





True. Men don't have to work so hard. These days a woman will chase YOU if that's what they want.

paul1217's photo
Sat 01/14/12 12:45 PM


The problem, from what I have seen, is the guy with the best sales pitch usually has the worst product! The guy that has the best product and the most to offer doesn't feel the need to go after the mass market. He is willing to limit his marketing to to the highest quality customers, knowing he has a better chance of a long term purchase!:wink: glasses


All this is preference. But how do you get to know someone if all you're seeing is a bunch of bad eggs? Men are just WAY too attracted to someone's looks to differentiate. Unless you mean personality then I could see your point.


In my experience, woman CAN be just as attracted to looks if not more so than men. Of course there has to be some attraction or you would probably never even get past Hello.

Excuse me while I put on my riot gear for the ensuing beating I am about to receive.

First a few definitions for clarity:
Friend: someone that you speak to occasionally, might invite to a party, might help you out if they weren't to busy.

Close Friend: someone that you speak to regularly (weekly), is invited to every party you have and that you hang out with often, someone that would make an effort to help you out.

Best Friend: The person you talk to daily, you want to spend as much time with as you can and would be there in a second to do anything for you.

Here comes the trouble. LOL

Men are just more straight forward about the role that attraction plays in there interactions with women.

If a man is not attracted to a woman's personality or looks the chances are they will usually not become more than friends.

If a man is not attracted physically but is attracted to her personality they may become close friends.

If a man is attracted to her both physically and her personality they may become best friends and he will probably want to see if it can become more.

The woman will usually know this very early in the relationship.

Checks riot gear and puts on helmet!

From my experience only!

If a woman is attracted to a man's personality, but not his looks they can still put the man into any of the above categories.

If a woman is attracted to a man's personality and his looks he will probably become a close friend.

If a woman is attracted to him both physically and his personality they may become best friends and she may want to see if it can become more.

The man will never have a clue where he stands. And if there is any justice in this world and she wants it to become more, I hope the guy is GAY!laugh laugh

He now runs and hides!rofl

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Sat 01/14/12 12:48 PM

True. Men don't have to work so hard. These days a woman will chase YOU if that's what they want.


Well..jane,I didn't get why your "YOU" is bold & large.laugh laugh laugh

Are u now personalizing this topic?