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I'm afraid, I'm very afraid. I got the snots kicked out of me by a girl named Dina when I was 10.
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I have NO fear........
Unless she has an....... Ax.  |
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I'm afraid, I'm very afraid. I got the snots kicked out of me by a girl named Dina when I was 10. fear is imagination....  unless of course Dina was a Klingon in heat  (I'm so Baaaad) 
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.)  In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....!  (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) that speaks to improve your product & your presentation |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) that speaks to improve your product & your presentation I tried that. Nobody wants it unless it's a completely....different....product. I mean, try selling oranges and the ONLY thing they will buy is an armadillo. It's a difficult transition. |
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It's like trying to change a 55 chevy Apache P/U truck......
Into a 2012 Escalade............. No one appreciates old fashioned.....Quality!!!! 
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It's like trying to change a 55 chevy Apache P/U truck...... Into a 2012 Escalade............. No one appreciates old fashioned.....Quality!!!! Exactly....!
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 01/14/12 01:48 PM
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) I guess if you can't improve the product (yourself) then you have to lower your standards. OR Get a dog. 
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True. Men don't have to work so hard. These days a woman will chase YOU if that's what they want. Well..jane,I didn't get why your "YOU" is bold & large. Are u now personalizing this topic? No, not personal to you. I was emphasizing a woman will chase a MAN rather than a man having to chase a WOMAN. |
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Edited by
justme659
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Sat 01/14/12 02:12 PM
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The problem, from what I have seen, is the guy with the best sales pitch usually has the worst product! The guy that has the best product and the most to offer doesn't feel the need to go after the mass market. He is willing to limit his marketing to to the highest quality customers, knowing he has a better chance of a long term purchase!   All this is preference. But how do you get to know someone if all you're seeing is a bunch of bad eggs? Men are just WAY too attracted to someone's looks to differentiate. Unless you mean personality then I could see your point. In my experience, woman CAN be just as attracted to looks if not more so than men. Of course there has to be some attraction or you would probably never even get past Hello. Excuse me while I put on my riot gear for the ensuing beating I am about to receive. First a few definitions for clarity: Friend: someone that you speak to occasionally, might invite to a party, might help you out if they weren't to busy. Close Friend: someone that you speak to regularly (weekly), is invited to every party you have and that you hang out with often, someone that would make an effort to help you out. Best Friend: The person you talk to daily, you want to spend as much time with as you can and would be there in a second to do anything for you. Here comes the trouble. LOL Men are just more straight forward about the role that attraction plays in there interactions with women. If a man is not attracted to a woman's personality or looks the chances are they will usually not become more than friends. If a man is not attracted physically but is attracted to her personality they may become close friends. If a man is attracted to her both physically and her personality they may become best friends and he will probably want to see if it can become more. The woman will usually know this very early in the relationship. Checks riot gear and puts on helmet! From my experience only! If a woman is attracted to a man's personality, but not his looks they can still put the man into any of the above categories. If a woman is attracted to a man's personality and his looks he will probably become a close friend. If a woman is attracted to him both physically and his personality they may become best friends and she may want to see if it can become more. The man will never have a clue where he stands. And if there is any justice in this world and she wants it to become more, I hope the guy is GAY! He now runs and hides!  Seriously? Who are these women you are meeting? Do guys act this way with women? To me most of the descriptions you listed fit aquantences. I would never ask a friend or expect a friend ( of the guy type ) to go out to a party with me. Who really does that? Help me move, sure, you ask everyone to help you move, even your worst enemy. How the hell am I suppose to draw a guy's attention at the party if I arive with another "just a guy friend"? Not gonna happen in a million years. Maybe it is just where I live. Could demographics effect these ideals? Job titles and income? I must really be the oddest duck in the pond. I could never be "just friends" with a guy that I am attracted to his looks and personality. Guy friends are males that are single and dating another gal and have announced that they are into that said gal who happens to be your gal pal. Hands off policy in place there. ( Those are the howdy do, help me move guys. LOL) And Bestest Best Friends are reserved for female friends. 99.99% of guys I know could never handle the stuff gals really talk about and share. I would rather poke my own eyes out than to bad mouth my guy to another guy. Thats just wrong. And that .01% that could handle that type of verbal intimacy, I would kidnap and keep forever. And not be shy about telling him just that. What ever happened to...You ask a person on a date, and after said date you know you want to kiss them, and if you do, it goes on to more. If you do not, it usually ends there? Permanitly. No wonder I stink at this dating in the modern world. I would rather go through a divorce again, at least you know where you stand in a divorce. LOL (Sorry for my rant) |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) I guess if you can't improve the product (yourself) then you have to lower your standards. OR Get a dog. Already got one. She calls to me now... |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) I guess if you can't improve the product (yourself) then you have to lower your standards. OR Get a dog. I love dogs....! But I live in a no-pets building.... And I'm NOT gonna lower my standards -- that's how I ended up married.... |
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Sat 01/14/12 03:41 PM
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) that speaks to improve your product & your presentation I tried that. Nobody wants it unless it's a completely....different....product. I mean, try selling oranges and the ONLY thing they will buy is an armadillo. It's a difficult transition. cool slogan tho "Oranges to Armadilloes" the mind reels.....
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) that speaks to improve your product & your presentation I tried that. Nobody wants it unless it's a completely....different....product. I mean, try selling oranges and the ONLY thing they will buy is an armadillo. It's a difficult transition. cool slogan tho "Oranges to Amradilloes" the mind reels..... It might make for a good magic trick....! |
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Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! We all have something to sell. Just the economy right now is kind of rough.  Seriously though... I could afford to improve my presentation I am sure, but the product is just fine. I am a great person and I can't force people to see or acknowledge that, all I can do is be myself and speak to those who are interested in learning more about me and what I stand for. Not really interested in trying to go beyond that just to get someone to care about me. I could maybe work on my advertising some. Get a PR manager and some witty campaign slogans though. Maybe some sky-writing.... |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) that speaks to improve your product & your presentation I tried that. Nobody wants it unless it's a completely....different....product. I mean, try selling oranges and the ONLY thing they will buy is an armadillo. It's a difficult transition. cool slogan tho "Oranges to Amradilloes" the mind reels..... It might make for a good magic trick....! now be reasonable. they must have something in common. a squishy center perhaps? |
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It's more that they are tired of being rejected not really afraid.So they have made their minds up to let the woman make the first move and until this happens they go on with their lives. I have heard this before - and I think it's a cop out because often when a woman makes the first move things do not work out because either conciously or subconciously the man prefers to make the first move and pursue. If a man doesn't make the first move I assume he is not interested. If he waits for me to make the first move I would assune he's just in it for what he can get and not really all that interested - just wanting to take advantage of my interest, so to speak I don't agree that things don't work out simply because a woman makes the first move. If that has happened to you, maybe it's because you prefer the man to make the first move? We've seen many men say that they'd like the woman to make the first move, so how does that show that they are not interested? |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) In theory, sure. But some of us have nothing to sell that anybody wants....! (And I'm not talking about books. People actually buy those.) that speaks to improve your product & your presentation I tried that. Nobody wants it unless it's a completely....different....product. I mean, try selling oranges and the ONLY thing they will buy is an armadillo. It's a difficult transition. cool slogan tho "Oranges to Amradilloes" the mind reels..... It might make for a good magic trick....! now be reasonable. they must have something in common. a squishy center perhaps? I am not drinking Minute Maid Armadillo Juice regardless. |
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It seems like a lot of men are afraid of women. But what they are afraid of is rejection. Like in sales, you have to realize that you probably have to make ten sales calls before you make a sale. Unless you are a terrible salesman, you will sell something if you keep making sales calls. Improve you product and presentation. (That would be yourself.) Gurl......This is SO true. Men fear failing a lot more than we do. Its the male bravada snake that won't seem to die. But in the context of a salesmen...its clear none them or hardly any truly sell themselves to the highest product. And they wonder why they're still single. What have they got to lose when zero bets have been made? It's real easy for women to sit back and judge men on this subject because they are usually on the rejecting side. Try chasing for a while and see how "easy" it is to experience rejection. Most women don't, and plainly say so. I've talked to women who say they won't because they would be terrified of rejection themself. Most men want to make the first move but a woman needs some sort of body language to show some interest. Don't expect us to read minds. As time progresses men (especially older men) get tired of the "chase me" and playing "hard to get". Nothing will drive an older man away faster than "if you want me you'll chase me". |
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