Topic: Scary Obituary
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Sat 02/25/12 06:02 PM
Scary Obituary

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh ,
had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government.
A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can
vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the
most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has
been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years.

If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.

If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at
stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..

This is truly scary!
Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic .
Someone should point this out to Obama.
Of course we know he and too many others pay little attention to The Constitution.
There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012.

If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.



Nothing strengthens the judgement and quickens the conscience like individual RESPONSIBLITY - Elizabeth Cody Stanton


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Sat 02/25/12 06:08 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 02/25/12 06:08 PM
so, would a democracy where those living in areas of less crime or owning more land have stronger voting pull be more desirable?


I think we had that in slavery days, but we werent perfectly democratic than either,,,,


IM kind of confused what the issue is supposed to be?

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Sat 02/25/12 06:12 PM
A scary obituary would be.........

waking to the morning paper...

and reading mine!!!!!

That would ruin my whole day!!!

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/25/12 06:13 PM

A scary obituary would be.........

waking to the morning paper...

and reading mine!!!!!

That would ruin my whole day!!!



laugh laugh laugh

I think that has happened before,,,,,

and the flip side, where people died and continued receiving checks as if they were alive,,,,lol

willing2's photo
Sat 02/25/12 06:17 PM

A scary obituary would be.........

waking to the morning paper...

and reading mine!!!!!

That would ruin my whole day!!!

That's exactly why I don't read the newspaper.:thumbsup: smokin

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Sat 02/25/12 06:20 PM


A scary obituary would be.........

waking to the morning paper...

and reading mine!!!!!

That would ruin my whole day!!!

That's exactly why I don't read the newspaper.:thumbsup: smokin


I only look to see if I still havta go to......

work!!!
explode

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/25/12 06:37 PM



A scary obituary would be.........

waking to the morning paper...

and reading mine!!!!!

That would ruin my whole day!!!

That's exactly why I don't read the newspaper.:thumbsup: smokin


I only look to see if I still havta go to......

work!!!
explode


shocked shocked are you a teacher?

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Sat 02/25/12 06:39 PM
I want to come back as I ghost when I die, so I can pants the president during one of his speeches.

msharmony's photo
Sat 02/25/12 06:40 PM

I want to come back as I ghost when I die, so I can pants the president during one of his speeches.



haaaaaa

,. such a troublemaker


I dont want to come back at all, let me be 'at peace'..lol

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Sat 02/25/12 06:41 PM
Oh I totally agree with Totage........

I wanna get lost in the transition......

so I can mess with some peeps before I go...Home!!!!

Forgive Me Lord!!

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Sun 02/26/12 09:02 AM

Scary Obituary

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh ,
had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government.
A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can
vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the
most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has
been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:

Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years.

If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.

If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at
stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..

This is truly scary!
Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic .
Someone should point this out to Obama.
Of course we know he and too many others pay little attention to The Constitution.
There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012.

If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.



Nothing strengthens the judgement and quickens the conscience like individual RESPONSIBLITY - Elizabeth Cody Stanton




Good post and thanks for sharing itdrinker

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/26/12 10:22 AM
a correction (or two) needs to be made

OBama won 28 states and the district of columbia, with a total popular vote of 66.8 million

McCain won the other 22 states with a total popular vote of 58.3 million



it would be odd if 22 states had a larger total area of square miles than 28 plus the district of columbia,, but I dont feel like looking all that up right now,,,

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Sun 02/26/12 12:19 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Sun 02/26/12 12:20 PM

Number of States won by:
Square miles of land won by:
Population of counties won by:
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:


I've learned to pay NO ATTENTION to statistics presented in this way. Cherry picking can easily lead to severely distorted impressions.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years.


In what way is this saying 'good bye' to the US? I predict that that mexican americans will have increasing power in US politics, and that this will impact US immigration policies.

I'm happy about this. My main concerns with border security relate to organized crime, human trafficking, and the like... mexican americans have the same concerns.


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with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.


I agree with this. This is a great way for an ignorant democracy to kill itself - it's a variation of the tragedy of the commons. Government dependency weakens not just the individuals, but the society.

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Sun 02/26/12 12:22 PM

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Sun 02/26/12 12:45 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 02/26/12 12:45 PM
The United States of America is a corporation. It is a bankrupt corporation.

America is a country. It will always be a country.

We may need a new corporation.

Totage's photo
Sun 02/26/12 01:57 PM

The United States of America is a corporation. It is a bankrupt corporation.

America is a country. It will always be a country.

We may need a new corporation.


Why? So we can have more of the same problems? The problem is The United States IS a corporation. We need a government run by the people, for the people. Even the founding fathers have said something to the effect of when the government no longer works for the people, it's our duty to over throw it. Our government is long over due for an over throw.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/26/12 03:18 PM
our founding fathers had strong ideals while continuing to own slaves

the country has never been perfect, and never will be,


but we can strive to do better, no matter how good/bad we already are,,,

Totage's photo
Sun 02/26/12 04:18 PM
I agree, which is why we're long over due for a new government that truly represents the people.

msharmony's photo
Sun 02/26/12 05:22 PM

I agree, which is why we're long over due for a new government that truly represents the people.


its something to work towards, for sure

but in an electorate , those who dont participate rarely get

'represented' , whether they are excluded by choice or by chance,,,