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Topic: Recovery from religion...
msharmony's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:08 PM

msharmony wrote:
I find, usually, most non believers have an extensive background of 'abuse' of some sort, and religion becomes the scapegoat that they feel relief ridding themself of,,,
just my observation though



my reply:
Roman Catholic boys come to mind for me,
They would not have been abused if they had not been in religion. :(




thats not necessarily true,, pedophiles walk in all areas of life, although areas where children are available and trusting have more potential,,(such as boys and girls organizations, catholic churches, schools, social work,,,etc,,)

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:10 PM



It is a good thing that it is becoming more mainstream to be religionless especially the major religions which are the great destructors.

Next we need to get it out of the government and schools so it can be practiced at home where the founders wanted it to be.

Would then limit the 'free practice thereof'.

How will a soldier pray?

How will a Muslim pray as exorted by Allah when he is in school to attend class but must pray?

What will a Christ trained child think after being told that God is only practiced in the home like a secret shame?

What right gives any one of us the right to remove from another a thing we have...

Freedom to be.


with the removal of religion from schools, etc. perhaps 'worship breaktimes' will be enacted to accomodate prayer rituals.

'freedom to be'
'being' (human actions with his brother man)
'prayer' communication with god

freedom to live (freedom to be) according to one`s belief has never been hampered.

children can be taught in the home about god, love, brotherhood, fairness, etc. when this is carried in the heart and soul, displayed by acts,,,,why must worship be done publicly, when it is truly done in the heart.


on the other hand, why should it be RESTRICTED from public?

why force people to keep their religion secret essentially by limiting its expression to behind closed doors?


Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:16 PM
Edited by Sloe00 on Fri 03/23/12 11:18 PM

no photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:19 PM

in a post i put in here, i mentioned that worship breaks could/should be inserted in schools (workplaces, too), as this is a country of religious freedom.
'worship breaktimes'


"with the removal of religion from schools, etc. perhaps 'worship breaktimes' will be enacted to accomodate prayer rituals. "


I don't see how worship breaks could be inserted in schools with the removal of religion from schools...



Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:21 PM




It is a good thing that it is becoming more mainstream to be religionless especially the major religions which are the great destructors.

Next we need to get it out of the government and schools so it can be practiced at home where the founders wanted it to be.

Would then limit the 'free practice thereof'.

How will a soldier pray?

How will a Muslim pray as exorted by Allah when he is in school to attend class but must pray?

What will a Christ trained child think after being told that God is only practiced in the home like a secret shame?

What right gives any one of us the right to remove from another a thing we have...

Freedom to be.


with the removal of religion from schools, etc. perhaps 'worship breaktimes' will be enacted to accomodate prayer rituals.

'freedom to be'
'being' (human actions with his brother man)
'prayer' communication with god

freedom to live (freedom to be) according to one`s belief has never been hampered.

children can be taught in the home about god, love, brotherhood, fairness, etc. when this is carried in the heart and soul, displayed by acts,,,,why must worship be done publicly, when it is truly done in the heart.


on the other hand, why should it be RESTRICTED from public?

why force people to keep their religion secret essentially by limiting its expression to behind closed doors?




'worship breaktimes' hey, do it wherever. but u might offend ones who believe in a different faith, or peeps who are non-believers

Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:24 PM


in a post i put in here, i mentioned that worship breaks could/should be inserted in schools (workplaces, too), as this is a country of religious freedom.
'worship breaktimes'


"with the removal of religion from schools, etc. perhaps 'worship breaktimes' will be enacted to accomodate prayer rituals. "


I don't see how worship breaks could be inserted in schools with the removal of religion from schools...





oh, pffft, it can be lawfully worded as time one can use for ones own purpose (as in legal breaktimes).

Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:27 PM
by law workers must take breaks after a certain amount of hours worked, and if workers want to pray during that break who will stop them?

Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:29 PM
Edited by Sloe00 on Fri 03/23/12 11:30 PM
Peter Pan...
'open time',,,,it can be called anything a f`n lawmaker wants to call it.

no photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:30 PM

by law workers must take breaks after a certain amount of hours worked, and if workers want to pray during that break who will stop them?



The same people who want to stop them now.


You know, those peeps who feel "offended" that not everyone believes as they do...


Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:43 PM
Edited by Sloe00 on Fri 03/23/12 11:44 PM


by law workers must take breaks after a certain amount of hours worked, and if workers want to pray during that break who will stop them?



The same people who want to stop them now.


You know, those peeps who feel "offended" that not everyone believes as they do...




uyy, as if there isn`t more important sh** going on. ppl attacking this are clearly petty, indeed. everyone STOP WITH THE F`ING FEELINGS OF OFFENSE, jesus cripes!!!!

Sloe00's photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:51 PM
Edited by Sloe00 on Fri 03/23/12 11:54 PM
ooops, this has gone off topic, sorry.
My apologies, Dragoness!!!

no photo
Fri 03/23/12 11:56 PM

ooops, this has gone off topic, sorry.
My apologies, Dragoness!!!



Yes, let's keep calling the religious sick and dictate how everyone should think...



Sloe00's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:12 AM
Edited by Sloe00 on Sat 03/24/12 12:13 AM


ooops, this has gone off topic, sorry.
My apologies, Dragoness!!!



Yes, let's keep calling the religious sick and dictate how everyone should think...




of course the religious aren`t sick! they never kill for their god`s sake, never commit suicide missions, NEVER judge others. I could never call this sick.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:30 AM

As you probably know, most non-believers are non-believers because of their extensive religious background..


Not true.
Some are never even brought up "with God".


The basic laws of logic


Religion was created BY logical thinking.


evidence, science, nature


These three things actually PROVE the validity of the Bible.
Tapped with "common sense" it makes just that more "believable".


and economics reveal religion as a delusion,imaginary...


"Life" itself is a delusion.
There is no true "purpose", such is the atheist way.
So whenever your ready..
..feel free to leap from the bridge.


alive only in the minds of "believers". The dogmatic mysticism of religious people does not make sense and actually heavily contradicts itself.


People contradict people, not God, not religion.
Blame the right violator, not the innocent.

Everyone always sees things differently.
There is always someone who is defiant to another.

That is the birth of contradiction, don't blame the story.
Blame the teller.


Religion was created by hut-dwellers thousands of years ago in order to gain power over their fellow human beings.


What was that about contradictions?

"Gain power over--" is a myth.
Did it work? No.
It was, if anything, a way to explain their own existences.

If this statement held absolutely ANY truth to it, there wouldn't have been far more crime and "evil" arising from its creation.


New religions continue to crop up constantly. We know of 2800 "gods" mankind has worshipped over time. Religious people dismiss 2799 gods,except for their one "true" god.


Because like "Freedom", "Peace", and "War"..

They are all just businesses now.

Again, put the blame where it belongs.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:32 AM


It is a good thing that it is becoming more mainstream to be religionless especially the major religions which are the great destructors.

Next we need to get it out of the government and schools so it can be practiced at home where the founders wanted it to be.


The good news,
non-believers are the fastest growing "religious" group in USA.

It is amazing, in 2012 in USA, one has to accept a
cosmic Jewish Zombie as his master, so this Zombie can guide him in making political decisions determining the future of our country. And the reason is because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

At least President Reagan used an Astrologer.... lol


Yes, show your intelligence.

You speak of "logic" then spit out this nonsense.
LOL

Do you even know what logic is?

..and what's with this whole zombie crap lately?
Seriously.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:34 AM

my reply:
Roman Catholic boys come to mind for me,
They would not have been abused if they had not been in religion. :(


Yes, they would of.

Remove religion/priest from it, really think he's no longer a pedophile?

Please.

Again, where's your logic, brudda?

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:35 AM



ooops, this has gone off topic, sorry.
My apologies, Dragoness!!!



Yes, let's keep calling the religious sick and dictate how everyone should think...




of course the religious aren`t sick! they never kill for their god`s sake, never commit suicide missions, NEVER judge others. I could never call this sick.



that would be 'human beings',,

human beings kill for their country,, does that make patriots sick by extension?

human beings commit suicide over heartbreaks and extensive ridicule,,does that make the heartbroken and ridiculed sick by extensions?

humans judge others, does that make humans sick by extension?


yes, 'religious' people do all the things non religious people do, but its not the fault of religion or lack of religion, its a symptom of human ego and paranoia,,,

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:39 AM

of course the religious aren`t sick! they never kill for their god`s sake, never commit suicide missions, NEVER judge others. I could never call this sick.


THAT is your mistake.

Absolutely NO religion, that presently exists, or that which is being represented/attacked here permits nor desires the killing of another.

Not Islam, not Christianity, not even Mythology.

AGAIN BLAME the right culprit, not an inanimate object.

Period.

Perception, Watson, it's all about perception.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:40 AM




ooops, this has gone off topic, sorry.
My apologies, Dragoness!!!



Yes, let's keep calling the religious sick and dictate how everyone should think...




of course the religious aren`t sick! they never kill for their god`s sake, never commit suicide missions, NEVER judge others. I could never call this sick.



that would be 'human beings',,

human beings kill for their country,, does that make patriots sick by extension?

human beings commit suicide over heartbreaks and extensive ridicule,,does that make the heartbroken and ridiculed sick by extensions?

humans judge others, does that make humans sick by extension?


yes, 'religious' people do all the things non religious people do, but its not the fault of religion or lack of religion, its a symptom of human ego and paranoia,,,


EXACTLY!

Wait..

>.>

<.<

..did I just agree with Harmony?!

x.x

msharmony's photo
Sat 03/24/12 12:41 AM
laugh laugh

it must be the late hour,,,,

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