well... how bout this?

What about what?

So everybodys happy with the chinese goods flooding our market? Foreign cars running down the road on foreign gas going to wal mart? of course this has nothing to do with the fact that our jobs are leaving thye country daily so dont worry, be happy.
So everybody who is on mimimum wage is happy as a clam, buying new houses and cars and toys for the kids and planning thier next vacation and dont want a raise?

i think we're too attached to jobs and "stuff". cost of living is way too high here. we can't get mad at the chinese for making a cheaper product, or the indians for doing work cheaper. we CAN get mad at american companies outsourcing jobs that matter, like customer support, to indians with accents you can't understand. but really it's a matter of being motivated. many americans want a job so they can relax and not work. some people who lost their job realize they haven't actually done it for years, and have just been kinda cruising. the job market isn't easy, but with a little creativity you can get to where you want to be, without blaming the world around you. even at minimum wage, you just gotta live a little more meagerly and use your money more intelligently. goodwill, grocery coupons, and bargain hunting go a long way, as does quitting smoking/drinking in this kind of scenario.

it's your life. don't let other bullsh*t stop you from living it.

when you have been on the job for 20 years and your job gets outsoursed, then you can say its not a problem

jwaddy, who taught you that kind of propoganda?
Oh, 24, geeze,, you should not believe everything you hear untill youve worked a few years. I'll forgive your youth, this time!

Just once I wish people would get their facts straight before they post something. In particular "foreign gas at Wal Mart" WalMart gets their gas out of the same pipelines, tank farms and refineries that everybody else uses. They buy from Chevron, Exxon/Mobile, Conoco/Phillips, BP or whoever has gas. Their gas is no more or no less foreign than anybody elses. They probably load off the unbranded rack, which is plain gasoline without any addatives that make each major brand's gas particular to them. I worked for various tank truck companies for 30 years in management and safety. At one we used to make Chevron gas at the Giant Refinery at Cineza NM we simply loaded unbranded gas and poured one pint of Chevron Addative per 1,000 gallons into the tank truck.

With all foreign goods the dilemma is we want low priced merchandise but we don't want the consequences that come with it. Companies are not in business to supply jobs they are in business for one reason and one reason only to make a profit. If they don't make a profit, they don't stay in business. That is the way it has always been and until this country becomes the socialist dictatorship where the government owns and runs everything the liberals want, that's the way it will always be.

There are a whole bunch of good paying jobs out there right now. There is a serious shortage of Truck Drivers in this country. Many companies will either train you or pay for your training at a truck driving school just to get you to go to work for them. You want a job that will pay you $40,000 a year or more there you go. You won't be home every night and you will have to submit to a drug screen but you can make a decent living at it and you won't have to sit around whining about making minimum wage. There are still many opportunities out there but you have to go after them they won't come to you.

yeah, i was thinking along the lines of gardenforge but he put it way better than i could have.

i made up my mind on that stuff myself - no propaganda involved. my main point here is not to give up, even if you've had the same job for 20 years. grow a pair, knock on some doors, and keep things moving smoothly. downsizing is a fact of life, and you gotta be prepared if it does happen with a back-up plan. it's no fun if it catches you by surprise.

jaws,
no offense but your really not old enough to know what its like to loose a job youve relyed on for 20 yrs to feed the kids, medical, retirement, ect.
Garden, YOU might want to consider where that chevron Gas comes from..... everything but the additive comes from overseas.

good paying jobs are available if someone doesent mind never seeing thier family of friends again.
for every so called good paying job theres thousands of others that are gone thanks to outsourcing. my whole point has always been that these companies that are outsourcibng are not looking at the bottom line, which is by eliminating jobs here, there destroying thier own market.

there was a time in this country when people took pride in the company they worked for...cause they felt that the company considered them "part of the family"...generations of the same family would devote themselves to one company because it was fair to them...no longer...
no benefits, low pay....outsourcing...and outright plant closures have set the standards for todays worker...are there any middle class working people that you know who feel secure in their jobs anymore?...doubt it...everyone works in the fear that their job will end tomorrow...

yup i operate using the theory that if i have enough worl this week to pay the bills and eat, thats good. will discuss next week in a week.

mabe some of these younguns on here just dont realise what job security is since they have never seen it.... but back in the day good jobs were available to anyone who wanted one. thats simply not true anymore.

no offense taken. i do have members of my family who have. the worst case i've heard of? one was "let go" from the US Postal Service a week before he received his retirement so they wouldn't have to pay him for it. another lost his job, and it took him a week to find another one before he was ok. he had to take out debt to stay afloat, but he was fine after about a month.

i guess the moral of the story is, don't give up, and complaining gets you nowhere. i say, figure out a solution and make it happen, rather than wallow in misery.

thats beautiful thinking but it dont reflect reality.

sounds like someone has been reading my posts after all

cant argue the fact that there has been a change in corporate attitude toward
the workers in this country...not for the good...

the point about positive attitude is well taken.
Yet i have over 2000 resumes out right now. The economy here has forced me to go into business for myself, which aint all bad either , and im lucky enough to stay fairly buisy. im the exception around here though. i really feel bad for a youngun trying to get somewhere in todays world. It was hard back in the day and damn near impossible now.

rambill we import more oil form Canada than we do from the mid east but you singled out Wal Mart for selling foreign gas.

As for jobs, times change and people must change with the times. There are jobs out there but some find it easier to sit and complain about the disadvantages of the jobs rather than take one that is less than their ideal position.

I have had union jobs, non union jobs and management jobs, but I was never without a job for 1 day. I have moved all over the country with my family and it was always for a higher paying job. I always said when I put a price of my services that established what I was and I would be damned if I was going to be a cheap one. I did it without a college education so that is not a prerequisite to getting a good paying job although it certainly can be a benefit.

If you have the initiative you can find a good paying job if you don't have it, you take what is left over. Unfortunately in some instances one who is starting over must start at the bottom rung and work his or her way up but if you do a good job you won't be at the bottom long. Years ago the president of a company I was working for gave all the managers a big button that had GOYA in big red letters on it. It stood for "Get Off Your A$$" that was some of the best advice I ever got.

If I were looking for a good job, I would spend less time on a dating site and more time searching the internet for my dream job.

never said wal mart sells gas..........