I don't think it stops just with people that are gay; but sexuality is everywhere. We are having a comic convention this weekend and they now have rules where people(women in particular) can't walk around with skimpy outfits baring it all as we have lots of kids attending these events. I have seen way worse in some of the dance clubs here though.

But dance clubs are adult only and private establishments. That is kind of different.

Well, he did say he would hug women but not gay men so I don't think hugging is the issue you here; although I have been known to be wrong.

I'm not sure its fair to even break this down into those two groups. There are baptists who have a different approach than methodists, and with both groups their subculture varies with the region. So some christian groups have more hostility, as a group, than other groups.

And some atheist subcultures are dominated by people who completely don't care about religion, any more than i care about the existence of people who are into twighlight. Other atheists subcultures are more activist in nature, and think the way to improve the world is to lessen the influence of religion.






I am happy to have known many, many people for whom this doesn't apply.

I have known many christians who were very intelligent, questioning, and who had thought through the questions really well. They tended to be agnostic theists. I have known atheists who were complete idiots. I know that you cannot judge a persons sensibility based purely on whether or not they agree with you.

But to believe in young earth creationism is more than just a matter of 'disagreeing with MT'. Some beliefs are so far removed from the evidence, that there really isn't room anymore for intelligent, well informed people to disagree.... but that still doesn't mean the person isn't sensible. They may simply be ignorant - as often happens with insular subcultures.



In the general sense of the word, yes!
In the moral sense of the word, no.






I agree that I'm definitely not being 'nice' if I tell someone I think their belief is idiotic. That doesn't require hostility - though arrogance and impatience help.



...which is also the reason that there seems to be less 'atheists leaders encouraging atheist followers to hate non-atheists'.

Oh, I know but just saying someone could be offended by the way someone dresses. Me, I could care less if people walked around naked. Seen a hell of a lot of that in Germany.

Um....

Would you hug a hetero man?

Would you hug a hetero female that you found unattractive?

Hugging a gay man is like a combination of the above. Sure, just like with the unattractive hetero female, you might be thinking "I hope she doesn't take this the wrong way", but in the end thats probably paranoia and there's nothing to worry about.

At least they are clean!

i don't hug men...

Oh. Glad I didn't post the picture, then.

you go hug him in his underwear then... i don't care what you want to call it, i don't hug guys...

He mentioned the word gay

Then I can see why hugging a gay man would be especially uncomfortable for you.

:hug:

yea, i don't like sausage...

A hug from a gay guy would bother you? What about from a straight guy?

Just because he doesn't want to hug them doesn't mean he is homophobic. For all we know he has gay friends. I have no problem with gay men. I would and have hung out with gay men. I do t want to hug them either.

He already answered that he doesn't hug men.

is this an issue?

gays want to live their lives the way they want... well, so do i... and that means i don't hug men...gay or otherwise... especially when they are in their underwear...

Interesting to say the least?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QEyBO3KcDs&feature=related

So, you don't mind people being in their underwear, you just don't like it when gay people do it?