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Topic: Obama's cronies dodging destructive union rules
boredinaz06's photo
Sat 04/28/12 08:56 AM

In another re-election payoff, President Obama’s National Labor Relations board chopped the time frame to hold a union representation election from 38 days down to a mere 10.

These ambush elections open workers up to harassment from Big Labor underlings, and cut down on the time employers have to communicate to their workers the dangers of falling under Big Labor’s thumb.

Employees’ right to privacy will be trashed so Big Labor can swell their ranks.

Under this regulation, business owners will be required to hand over their employees’ home addresses, phone numbers and email addresses to union organizers.

Facing a tough re-election, I’m afraid there is no low this administration won’t stoop to in order to keep Big Labor’s forced dues infused contributions flowing.

During this anemic recovery, the last thing small businesses need is the threat of Big Labor storming their work force with a union representation election.

Recently, I wrote an op-ed in The Washington Times about this dangerous Big Labor payoff.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/23/dodging-destructive-union-rules/

I hope you’ll take a few moments to read my piece and share my outrage at the Obama Administration trampling the rights of employees and employers in order to cater to Big Labor ahead of the election.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:09 AM
I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:20 AM
Edited by boredinaz06 on Sat 04/28/12 09:54 AM

I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.


And a major reason why American made goods are so expensive. I'm not against paying people for doing a good job but there is a limit. I remember reading about 3 assembly line workers for GM, two got $27 an hour for holding the bumpers up in place and the other got $40 an hour to bolt it on. These shenanigans by the labor unions is also why there is so much automated work done on assembly lines today.

lilott's photo
Sat 04/28/12 09:52 AM
Unions should be outlawed.

AndyBgood's photo
Sat 04/28/12 10:56 PM

Unions should be outlawed.


Not all unions are bad. Some hold workers to very stringent qualifications. it is Unions like the Teamsters, Teachers' Unions, City Worker's unions that are the ones messing things up the most. They need their political leverage removed. Unions do serve a purpose but that purpose has been commandeered buy criminals.

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Sun 04/29/12 08:39 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 04/29/12 08:39 AM


Unions should be outlawed.


Not all unions are bad. Some hold workers to very stringent qualifications. it is Unions like the Teamsters, Teachers' Unions, City Worker's unions that are the ones messing things up the most. They need their political leverage removed. Unions do serve a purpose but that purpose has been commandeered buy criminals.

and sadly, some of those criminals are our politicians.

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 04/29/12 09:18 AM

I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.
What Unions? what power? totaly absurd statements by the uninformed are what is realy killing this country.

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Sun 04/29/12 11:14 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 04/29/12 11:15 AM


I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.
What Unions? what power? totaly absurd statements by the uninformed are what is realy killing this country.


Ok, what is what is really killing this country? what


boredinaz06's photo
Sun 04/29/12 11:27 AM


I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.
What Unions? what power? totaly absurd statements by the uninformed are what is realy killing this country.


Are you really asking this question?laugh

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 04/29/12 11:41 AM
http://laborpains.org/2012/04/27/senate-dems-sink-bid-to-block-nlrbs-quickie-elections-ruling/

Senate Dems Sink Bid to Block NLRB’s Quickie Elections Ruling

Every Senate Democrat voted against a Republican measure to nullify the National Labor Relations Board’s controversial ruling in favor of “quickie” or “ambush” votes on unionization.

Labor experts believe the NLRB rule will slash the time between calling and holding an election from 40 days to as few as 14. There has been an outcry from Republicans who believe that “the new rules will lead to ‘ambush’ elections that barely leave company managers enough time to respond or counsel against forming a union.”

Senate Democrats gave the impression that they’re unafraid of the consequences at the ballot box for their stand. Though Republicans had little chance of passing the amendment in the Democratic-controlled Senate, it forced some Democrats who face tough re-election bids to take a stand on an issue important to business groups. While the chances of the amendment passing were slim, President Obama still threatened a veto on the measure.
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Sun 04/29/12 11:43 AM


I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.
What Unions? what power? totaly absurd statements by the uninformed are what is realy killing this country.
yep,go ask a Union Official whether there is a Right To Work,without impediment by some crooked Union!laugh

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Sun 04/29/12 01:35 PM


I am so against the power Labor Unions are wielding. Unions are part of the reason most manufacturing left America.
What Unions? what power? totaly absurd statements by the uninformed are what is realy killing this country.


TEAMSTERS UNION FOR ONE! DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Are we going to go back to the same childish debate tactics as before? The TEAMSTERS UNION is one of the serious problem Children messing it up for the others. What do the Teamsters do? SQUEEZE EMPLOYERS FOR EVERY DIME THEY CAN GET THROUGH STRONG ARM NEGOTIATION TACTICS! They pay people to sit in front of businesses with signs saying "Shame on :name of business: LABOR DISPUTE" and when you find out what they want it is some cock and bull story that ends in more pay AND benefits. they get on the news and whine about how :Name of Business: is so unfair while the Business needs to spend money to present their side of the argument. And does the Teamsters union offer any quality standards in their workers? FUQUE NO THEY DON'T! Some of my customers run GLOBAL BUSINESSES! Does anyone you know or talk to run a global business? Do you have any clue how many forces really work on a businesses resolve to stay in a place they cannot make money because of all the fees, taxes, penalties, lawsuits, and other BS they have to face? When you have spoken in depth with anyone who has THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES you get a better scope of what the media does not tell you! And if you cannot take the Trevon Martin situation in Florida as a serious wakeup to the fact the media lies and doctors pictures and massager stories then you my friend are FAR more gullible than I! (or is that supposed to be "Me?" grumble Damn proper grammar!)

Others include:
LA Unified Teacher's union
UAW
Farm Worker's union
City Services Union also known as the Municipal Service union


Unions I know for A FACT that are NOT Problem Children:
Fire Sprinkler and Pipe Fitter's union
Plumber's Union
Steam Fitters Union
Electrician's Union

The difference between the two? For one the bottom group require testing and maintenance of proper documentation and permits FOR ONE! THEIR PEOPLE CAN PROVE THEY HAVE UP TO DATE QUALIFICATIONS!

The top group cannot. Likewise the LA UNIFIED SCHOOL TEACHER'S UNION makes it impossible for the LA Unified School District to fire and or terminate from all employment people who are caught being pedophiles and drug addicts. they do not hold the teachers to any real standards. They just help inept teachers keep seats warm and drag down the quality of our schools and likewise leave the county of Los Angeles paying huge amounts of money from the lawsuits the teachers who molest children cause!


So... ...Bestinshow, how do you support your thin argument now? We are not going to degenerate to ad hominum again are we?

I contend the Teamster's Union WAS the proverbial straw that broke many a camel's back here in American manufacturing! They made cost of labor here FAR to expensive to manage! And your retort is???

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 04/29/12 03:10 PM
The retort is you now work for less and the jobs are still going to countries whose people will work for a bowl of rice.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 04/29/12 03:22 PM

The retort is you now work for less and the jobs are still going to countries whose people will work for a bowl of rice.


THAT IS WEAK! Weak on so many levels. I actually have to charge more for the overhead I have to eat. I have to charge more because I am being charged more all around. My work will never go overseas. There is no way in hell it can. people need their houses here fixed too.

Let me name two more mediocrity unions:
Screen Actor's Guild
Screen Writer's Guild

I know of executives who lament the need for fresh talent writing and acting. Ever look up the entry requirements to get into the SWG? Completely ridiculous.

Nope, business would thrive here if there was not so much taxation on them and squeezing them dry (and I mean small and middle end businesses!).

General Electric is now a global business but they made 7 TRILLION dollars in America and paid NO taxes thanks to "legal" loopholes. they put people to work here. So why is it so many small businesses are choking slowly and dying off? Everyone is trying to get into the wrong pockets!

And what are Unions doing to keep their Jobs here? Well, I do know of one union that agreed to one volunteer day and pay reductions to keep their contingent of officers rather than let some go to keep their wages up. they knew less man power was suicidal! The Redondo Beach Police Officer's Union did what RARE few unions have done to keep work here!

Teamsters do not negotiate. They just make demands! They are the classic slippery slope, "if you give a mouse a cookie he will want a glass of milk."


And your response to this is???

metalwing's photo
Mon 04/30/12 02:21 AM
A good friend of mine runs a small manufacturing plant in Houston. He also ran his company's Chinese plant for a couple of years recently. The labor unions slipped in and now are going to force a vote on unionizing the Houston plant even though the work force is well paid, safe, and has few complaints.

Since the Houston plant provides products for the oil companies, the company would like to keep the products close so they can provide better service but if the union moves in and drives the costs up, the company can no longer compete in a highly competitive business.


Redykeulous's photo
Mon 04/30/12 09:14 AM
Edited by Redykeulous on Mon 04/30/12 09:16 AM
Ok - I really don't understand the problem.

First of all, when considering employees of the major corporations, like Walmart, Target..., I would imagine that the vast majority of employees would not conform to a union, especially when they realized that their, very near, minimum wages would be severely cut by union dues.

Secondly, with all the new 'right-to-work' legislation implemented by states, it would be unlikely that people working in small organizations would be any more likely that those in large corps to go for 'paying dues'.

In fact, one of the greatest oppositions to the 'right-to-work' legislation is the concern about the "free-riders" those who will benefit from labor unions without having to pay the cost of protection.

Those who might opt to take the pay cut for quick remedies through the protection of labor unions, would most likely not be satisfied within a year, and refuese to continue their union affiliation, HOPING, perhaps, that others would continue and they would all eventually benefit.

Finally, there would be little effect on employees in the public sector (fed & state employees)becasue they have worked under the 'right-to-work' policies for ages.

At this point, should unions attempt to infiltrate big corporations, is there any doubt that we would all see EVERY state putting into effect 'right-to-work' legislation.

Until people of the U.S. have job security, meaning choices of jobs, with majority of able-bodies working, they are likely to continue to work long hours, submit to inequalities and low pay, with fewer benefits. This means that labor unions have little effect under 'right-to-work' legislation and for those who cannot afford the union dues without quick remedies to their situations.

When we eventually get back to job security, then we may see more employees contracting out with arbitration organization. It's a cost that may be absorbed by the employer, if the case is decided in favor of the employee. Either way, it's a one time cost for quick remedies vs continuous union dues, with unwanted political affiliations.


boredinaz06's photo
Mon 04/30/12 09:19 AM


^^ this pertains to states where unions have a stranglehold on employees and employers.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/30/12 09:42 AM



^^ this pertains to states where unions have a stranglehold on employees and employers.


yea, unions aren't real big here in texas... but there are a few here

Redykeulous's photo
Mon 04/30/12 03:27 PM



^^ this pertains to states where unions have a stranglehold on employees and employers.


How many are there, which states? Have they been affected by right-to-work legislation?


Redykeulous's photo
Mon 04/30/12 03:30 PM




^^ this pertains to states where unions have a stranglehold on employees and employers.


yea, unions aren't real big here in texas... but there are a few here


That's an understatement - it's the reason the Texas public sector has been privitized to the extent it is and far longer than any other state even considered the idea.


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